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My Challenge to Pooners: Help for Nadia!
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The world would be a happier place if wives like this accepted it as normal.:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...=510248&in_page_id=1879&ICO=FEMAIL&ICL=TOPART
As to whether or not it will happen, I don't know. Society changed in some ways that were expected and some that weren't. There are many conflicting trends and no one can say how things would turn out. Some couples are increasingly embracing open relationships and allowing SOs to satisfy needs outside under pre-arranged conditions. On the other hand, American SciFi writers in the 60s thought that with development of education and logic we'd outgrow religion and will have no need for it. Boy, were they wrong...
I won't ever dare to predict what could happen to the world at large.
But I will try to diffuse stigma and make people question their stereotypes where it is within my reach.
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" It seems that Carrie wasn't always this uninterested in sex. She admits to having 23 lovers before she married.
"Ten were proper boyfriends," she recalls. "I regretted having sex with six of them, loved three of them but only one of the 23 ever gave me an orgasm. "
do you blame her?
I found some of the posts in this thread interesting. This has nothing to do with what happened to me or justifying anything, just sharing some of the different reasons people do what they do.
I grew up on Welfare, with a single Mom. I saw what it did to her. There becomes a poverty consciousness that is very difficult to get out of. I have been on welfare myself. It reinforced that poverty consciousness. I hated growing up not knowing if there would be enough food to last until the end of the month, scrounging pennies, the constant stress of debt and uncertainty that weighs on your shoulders. It's been proven that can cause depression and physical illness. I've lived on minimum wage, as well. I still have to have a cupboard full of food or I panic.
I don't live extravagently. I live in a slightly dumpy apartment from the 70's. I drive a sensible, economical car. I haven't boughten new clothes or shoes in 6 months. I'm currently wearing a sweater I bought 5 years ago. I don't own designer clothes and run around wearing $800 sunglasses. The only thing I really spend a lot of money on is books. The only person who gets spoiled around here is my daughter
So, I've just left a 5 year marriage with nothing to show for it. No child support, no fair division of assets. The career I had trained for before I had my child was not an option, as it involves 15-20 hour days for weeks or months.
So, I sat down and thought about what I wanted to do with my life. My goals were: To own my own home, to get my degree in the career I decided on, and to be able to provide well for my daughter and not have her grow up with the same poverty consciousness I did. So, I can either work my ass off for a year and start off in a good position, or I can take 10 years to accomplish the same things. I chose the former option.
When I start school in September, I'll be able to see maybe 8 people a month. Not a lot. Again, I'd like to make it through those 2 years of school and really be able to CONCENTRATE on it, without worrying about whether I can pay my rent at the same time. So I'll be saving my ass off for that as well.
When I finish school, will I be making anywhere close to what I could make doing this for years? Nope. But I will be comfortable, and I will be doing something I love, and I will be happy. And that's a comfortable decision for me.
Oh and BTW, I don't make 10k every month. I think that's happened twice. Sometimes I make 2 or 3. You can refer to Cosmo's post "Things about Nadia that make you go hmmmm" for the reasons for that.
And just to be a brat (it's 6 AM and I haven't slept yet, I'm allowed to be)
If a woman is irresponsible for being an SP if she has a child, are pooners not irresponsible for seeing SP's if they have a child? After all, your spending your family's money on casual sex. Or what if your daughter's best friend becomes an SP and you go and see her without realizing who it is? Talk about traumatizing a child!
I grew up on Welfare, with a single Mom. I saw what it did to her. There becomes a poverty consciousness that is very difficult to get out of. I have been on welfare myself. It reinforced that poverty consciousness. I hated growing up not knowing if there would be enough food to last until the end of the month, scrounging pennies, the constant stress of debt and uncertainty that weighs on your shoulders. It's been proven that can cause depression and physical illness. I've lived on minimum wage, as well. I still have to have a cupboard full of food or I panic.
I don't live extravagently. I live in a slightly dumpy apartment from the 70's. I drive a sensible, economical car. I haven't boughten new clothes or shoes in 6 months. I'm currently wearing a sweater I bought 5 years ago. I don't own designer clothes and run around wearing $800 sunglasses. The only thing I really spend a lot of money on is books. The only person who gets spoiled around here is my daughter
So, I've just left a 5 year marriage with nothing to show for it. No child support, no fair division of assets. The career I had trained for before I had my child was not an option, as it involves 15-20 hour days for weeks or months.
So, I sat down and thought about what I wanted to do with my life. My goals were: To own my own home, to get my degree in the career I decided on, and to be able to provide well for my daughter and not have her grow up with the same poverty consciousness I did. So, I can either work my ass off for a year and start off in a good position, or I can take 10 years to accomplish the same things. I chose the former option.
When I start school in September, I'll be able to see maybe 8 people a month. Not a lot. Again, I'd like to make it through those 2 years of school and really be able to CONCENTRATE on it, without worrying about whether I can pay my rent at the same time. So I'll be saving my ass off for that as well.
When I finish school, will I be making anywhere close to what I could make doing this for years? Nope. But I will be comfortable, and I will be doing something I love, and I will be happy. And that's a comfortable decision for me.
Oh and BTW, I don't make 10k every month. I think that's happened twice. Sometimes I make 2 or 3. You can refer to Cosmo's post "Things about Nadia that make you go hmmmm" for the reasons for that.
And just to be a brat (it's 6 AM and I haven't slept yet, I'm allowed to be)
If a woman is irresponsible for being an SP if she has a child, are pooners not irresponsible for seeing SP's if they have a child? After all, your spending your family's money on casual sex. Or what if your daughter's best friend becomes an SP and you go and see her without realizing who it is? Talk about traumatizing a child!
What the hell? So basically what you're implying is just because she makes more money than the average woman or cop that she deserves to have the shit beaten out of her? Fuck you. Don`t give us all a sermon here. You`re the biggest hypocrite around if you truly believe what you`re saying and on the flip side, you`re a supporter of this business. This crap that you spew out is why this industry is so underground because of filthy scum like yourself. Nadia did the right thing by going to the police and for that she is punished? I don't think you'd be here saying this if it was your ass that had a gun pointed at you and tortured for several hours let alone your wife, sister or daughter. Damn right you'd go to the police and we would never hear the end of it here.
I am appalled by the comments from some of you. This women has been through the ringer and she shouldn't even have to justify what happened. There has been enough proof established that a serious crime took place and if you feel like you want to donate something, do so. I am sure she greatly appreciates this and is not looking for "attention". And if you don't believe what took place, don't bitch and moan about it. Seriously some of you have to get a life and do some better things with your time. As an SP myself, I know what it is like to have to take time off and have to turn to my savings to get me by. I can't fathom being assulted and violated like this with no $$$ and then have to endure more crap mentally here. Some of you guys are really the finest pricks around. I thought I had seen it all on Toronto boards but some of you really make the cut and make them look like angels. I know the members on TERB or MERB wouldn't treat their SPs like this. I wonder what they would have to say about all of this.
I would like to make a donation to this fund. Nadia, you are in my prayers and I hope you get better soon. Do not listen to some of these morons here. Get better and move forward in your life. You do not have to justify your actions, how much money you make or anything that has to do with your personal life. As for the rest of you scumbags who have decided to cause her more problems here, what comes around, goes around. I`m sure you`ll get yours when you decide to hook up wtih a broad that has Bubba waiting behind the door with a gun to rob your sorry asses. And to the mods, if I have violated any board rules by my posts, for that I am sorry. This incident has upset me and worse to see how she is being treated afterwards as a victim. I make no apologies for what I have said and stand by it.
Nadia i'm curious what your experience was with the various government programs including Victim Services, Rape Relief, programs for single moms in light of your situation. Also wondering why the courts haven't pursued the deadbeat dad.
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perbertt
Sorry, I won't let you shame me into shutting up.
Yes, it is a terrible thing what happend to Nadia, but unless she realizes her own contribution to what happened, she runs the risk of repeating her mistakes.
Yes, I do mean that it is dangerous to see people you don't know in the middle of the night and yes, it is dangerous to see people who don't mind if you look like your pimp had beaten the shit out of you (I know it is not true, but it looks like it)
The police and Perb members can bail her out, but if she gets used to relying on others for help, one day that help won't be there and a real tragedy could happen to her or to her child.
And sorry, but I am sure the underpaid policemen and especially police women can't help but feel resentment when they see someone who makes 6000 in a few days and they have to work their asses off and risk their lives to keep her safe. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but they are human beings, not machines.
The last thing I want is to hurt the feelings of someone who's just been victimized, but unless she wakes up and learns to help herself, god forbid, worse things could happen to her and her child.
Quite honestly, where does money enter into this equation? What does an underpaid policeman have to do with this? Afterall, it is his job to serve and protect. I don't think the resentment is on the police officer's part, rather it is you who has the problem especially where an escort's income is concerned. Why don't you just come right out and say it? There are task force units that deal with sexual assult whether it's from a streetwalker or callgirl or any other woman that handle these cases on an everyday basis.
Spare us the bullshit sermons on how she should be more careful for herself and her child. Everyone makes their own choices in want they do with their lives and that includes a job or career- police officer or escort. It is simple and easy for you to hide behind your so called morals but if you feel that prostiutution is so dangerous, what are doing here contributing to the so called problem? Just say that you are resentful that escorts make more money in a week than you probably would in a month. That's what this is really all about. Not someone's safety. You truly are a hypocrite.
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What a bullshit. Yes, she has the right to play russian rulette with her own life, but not with her daughter's life.
Why do you hate her so much that you want her to stay vulnarable instead of waking up and taking charge of her own life?
What if she repeats her mistake and leaves her child an orphan? Who will take care of her when the father doesn't even bother to play child support?
Do you think the pooners will chip in and raise her?
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So you're saying it is OK to put yourself repeatedly in danger risking your life and risking to make your child an orphan and then go begging for help on review boards.What a bullshit. Yes, she has the right to play russian rulette with her own life, but not with her daughter's life.
Why do you hate her so much that you want her to stay vulnarable instead of waking up and taking charge of her own life?
What if she repeats her mistake and leaves her child an orphan? Who will take care of her when the father doesn't even bother to play child support?
I believe you're just bord & have found our forum to stir up shit in- get lost & go hide in your cubicle somewhere
I wish you luck with an attitude like this.
Thats right you guys, someone needs to tare the idiot a new asshole.What a bullshit. Yes, she has the right to play russian rulette with her own life, but not with her daughter's life.
Why do you hate her so much that you want her to stay vulnarable instead of waking up and taking charge of her own life?
What if she repeats her mistake and leaves her child an orphan? Who will take care of her when the father doesn't even bother to play child support?
I believe you're just bord & have found our forum to stir up shit in- get lost & go hide in your cubicle somewhere
Buddy, you don't get it...their are many occupations that are dangerous and leaves many kids at risk of loosing a parent, not just Escorts. Retard!
All the men and women who work in construction, ambulance workers, firemen, mill workers......and the list can go on.
And what makes these workers (whom also endanger the underpaid police) any more important for the police to help, then Escorts??
My suggestion...put your tail between your legs and retreat
How about this deal...if nadia isn't some totally repugnant skanky Surrey gutterslut I'll let her suck cock for $50.
Please excuse my insensitivity but her story, while somewhat amusing, is utterly ridiculous
Please excuse my insensitivity but her story, while somewhat amusing, is utterly ridiculous
I've ran into two people today that made me sick. For a typically impassionate observer that I am, it's quite a record...How about this deal...if nadia isn't some totally repugnant skanky Surrey gutterslut I'll let her suck cock for $50.
Please excuse my insensitivity but her story, while somewhat amusing, is utterly ridiculous
I guess i'll make you sick also because i dont buy her story either. I've been on vacation and didnt have time to log online. Friends told me to read this and everytime i read it i think it's total bs. Oh well i'll get trashed for it in here
Unfortunately It IS True...
Hey LAG, hope you enjoyed your overseas adventures!
If you check some of the other posts around this issue, you'll see Izzy and a few pooners have seen Nadia personally, no doubt it happened...unfortunately. Wish it was a scam...
Hey LAG, hope you enjoyed your overseas adventures!
If you check some of the other posts around this issue, you'll see Izzy and a few pooners have seen Nadia personally, no doubt it happened...unfortunately. Wish it was a scam...
You are right. I have a couple of friends who are police officers and trust me, when they show up to a crime scene, they do not start pulling financial records to see if they want to help this person. They are trained to react to the situation. It's not like a bunch of tax auditors show up. You know, they say water always finds it's level and this situation shows that to be true more so than any other thread I can think of (well most others anyway).
No, something happened, however 'it' didn't. Maybe her SO beat her, maybe she was in a car accident. 'It' as was described did not happen. Do you really think you would not hear a peep from the media about 'it'? Considering we hear about microwaved cats in AB, frozen babies in SK and even snowstorms in Halifax, do you really think this story, or anything remotely close to it would slip under the media's radar? Do you really think the police would let it slip by? Hell no! Tim Fanning would be on the podium, pounding his chest and announcing "We dropped the ball with Picton, but check this shit out, 3 arrests in 2 days for one hooker's double rape and robbery,we ROCK"...okay, he wouldn't put it in those terms, but you get the point.
Nadia is in dire financial straits, and was long before whatever happened to her happened. Why she felt the need to lie, I don't know. Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.
Wow, I wasn't aware that we had one of Nadia's closest friends on here to set us all straight.
You sound very sure of yourself and with that I would like to ask what is your relationship with the victim? What evidence do you have to support such a claim? and do you have anyone reputable on this site or other wise to vouch for you as Nadia does?As I've kept very close tabs on this story I feel that you've miss quite a few posts that prematurely brought you to this assumption. There is a MINOR involved. Yes, this is a very brutal story to share but believe it or not it happens all the time. I feel the only way it could have made headlines is if God forbid this story ended up in murder.
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