MSOG in a one hour appointment

[rubintugger]

Originally posted in the Winnipeg forum, someone suggested bringing the discussion here...

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OK, this has been bugging me for a while.

Why would MSOG not be allowed during a one hour session? I mean, you're paying for one hour of service, you're paying for sexual intercourse/BJ/different positions. What does it matter how many shots you take?

I understand the agency girls that hit and run allowing OSOG. That's thier MO, IMHO. But an incall, that has allotted you 1 hour?

Is it the cost of the condoms? Hey, I'll pay for an extra box.

And I can understand if a guy takes 45 minutes to shoot his load, you certainly don't want to start round two with 10 minutes left. But when shot one is done less than 10 minutes into the hour...

But for us guys that have hair triggers, or are older and don't have the stamina we used to, MSOG is totally reasonable. All of the regular ladies I see are fine with it, in fact most encourage it.

Is it an Asian thing? The travelling girls I've seen here in Winnipeg (Ji, and the Airline attendant) both had firm one time policies. But Asian Annie in Toronto (one of my all time fav's and one I'll rent a car to see when I'm there) demands it. In fact, twice is not usually enough for her to consider her job done, she has repeatedly made MSOG actually mean more that two.

I guess it takes a special lady to deal with special needs. And those that do get MVFTSC (Multiple visits from the same client). But if you're busy enough screwing everyone once, I guess repeat customers aren't importent.

Rubin

 

[DQ Guy]

Yeah I can agree with that..
But it seems that MSOG here in Alberta Is considered Extra Service..
Even going so far as to have Specials for MSOG.....

I have see a few gals that will offer it at no extra, but I'm still at the point
in life where 1shot usually takes the full 45-1hr.
on rare times MSOG has been needed, but its still rare

 

[Jethro Bodine]

You are 100% correct my friend.
And that what separates the top SP's from the rest.
In fact what has made my ATF's, my ATF's is the fact that they seem to enjoy the experience as much as I do and welcome the opportunity to have MSOG's (and hopefully mutiple orgasms)
The ones that don't are either the ladies who are in this for the quick buck or the ones (and you know who you are) who think that we're just lucky that they let us be in their presence let alone pay to fuck them.

 

[gpchillin]

From my experience 1 hour or 1/2 hours do not in any way mean time.

1/2 hr rate is for a BJ

1hr rate is for FS

You pay for 1hr your good for a shot then they go no matter how long it has been. Or at least thats how it is up north.

 

[Oldfart]

From my experience 1 hour or 1/2 hours do not in any way mean time.

1/2 hr rate is for a BJ

1hr rate is for FS

You pay for 1hr your good for a shot then they go no matter how long it has been. Or at least thats how it is up north.

Back a few decades ago in Vancouver, 1/2 hour was code for a blow job, and an hour was code for full service. If you called up a service provider and she said her rate for an hour was $200, it was understood that if you blew your load in 15 minutes, your session was over.

Now it's different with some SPs. There are those who mean 60 minutes of attention with as many climaxes as you can accomplish when they say one hour.

Kind of makes me think of the old Nevada brothel that had "Clams on the Half Shell" on the menu, which was defined as "if you don't come three times, you don't pay", but I digress...

Unless you know for sure what the lady means if she says an hour, it's best to clear things up ahead of time to avoid misunderstandings and disappointment.

 

[Sugar]

Okay. Here`s the thing guys, independent escorts usually allow MSOG and don`t charge extra because they can choose the amount of guys they see a night. At a massage studio, we cannot choose how many clients we see, which means that if the night is really busy and say each client has 2 shots, it means that we are doing full for the full 6 or more hours on shift X four shifts a week. Honeslty, I dont know any girl that would enjoy that. Theres only so much a woman can take down there. That`s why girls charge more at MPS because it is considered a specialty. If a woman is going to be sore down there all the time, it has to be worth it. It has nothing to do with the girl being a bad SP or not liking our job, but has more to do with us having lives outside of this. We still want to enjoy our personal sex lives outside of our job. We cannot do that if we`re sore or just plain worn out from full for 6 hours a day.

 

[Snoopy99]

[we cannot choose how many clients we see]

Ok this I don't know;
but still, wouldn't that be exploitation/unfair contracting of sorts?

[We cannot do that if we`re sore or just plain worn out from full for 6 hours a day.]

It's occupational hazard!
However, there's nothing that states that you have to be at the job everyday.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Okay. Here`s the thing guys, independent escorts usually allow MSOG and don`t charge extra because they can choose the amount of guys they see a night. At a massage studio, we cannot choose how many clients we see, which means that if the night is really busy and say each client has 2 shots, it means that we are doing full for the full 6 or more hours on shift X four shifts a week. Honeslty, I dont know any girl that would enjoy that. Theres only so much a woman can take down there. That`s why girls charge more at MPS because it is considered a specialty. If a woman is going to be sore down there all the time, it has to be worth it. It has nothing to do with the girl being a bad SP or not liking our job, but has more to do with us having lives outside of this. We still want to enjoy our personal sex lives outside of our job. We cannot do that if we`re sore or just plain worn out from full for 6 hours a day.

I agree with this. I have worked for some massage parlors where I was going non stop from the moment I got to my shift, til I left. If a guy walks in 5 minutes before your shift ends, you have to take him, no matter how many you've had that day. The most I've ever done in an 8 hr shift was 10 sessions. I always did around 4-6 sessions per shift (depending on the agency) That is a lot of fucking, lol. When you are tired or too bitchy to be there, you are not allowed to go home. You have to stay til the end of your shift. All they care about is how many pretty girls they have smiling on the couch. Being independent, I do 0-2 full service sessions a day, a few times a week (most of my sessions are erotic massage). I also charge more than I made at any agency (other than the Swedish Touch, which was dead most of the time, anyway), so I can afford to work less, take my time, and give it my all.

 

[rubintugger]

The thread was meant to address independent SPs. One's that advertise rates by the hour, 1/2 hour, 2 hours, etc.

The complaint about "being sore down there" really doesn't apply to this discussion. I'm talking about two 5 minute copulations, maybe 10 if your lucky. So that's 15 minutes total. Comparing that to those industrial piston pump porn star studs, you'd want guys like us, we're easy. Low maintenance clients. A little loving, some respect and we're regulars, easy rent money.

Sure, if you're the #1 babe in an MP, and you're booked solid for 6 hours straight, I can see it getting old real quick. Its not like you're getting porn star pay... but if you're that sucessful, what the heck are you doing working in an MP, for "the Man". Get a little business savy and start calling your own shots. Make some money, set you schedule, build a client base and retire after only a relatively few years of what should be fairly enjoyable work. You decide who you see, when you work, etc. That's the life.

Didn't realize that out west 1/2 hr meant BJ, 1 hour meant FS. To me BJ means BJ, and 1 Hour means 60 minutes. That'd make a difference to travelling ladies. I guess that's why it is important to establish pre-visit that MSOG is on the menu, and expected, and that the SP actually knows what MSOG is. It is amazing how many SP's don't know what acronyms mean, especially things like BBBJCIM... I don't understand why ladies put these things in their ads, and have no intention of performing that act...

But that's another thread...

Rubin

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I know this is going to piss some of you off but...

Sorry, I don't care if you've seen 5 other guys and you're a bit sore from fucking all day. Then go home or take a day off. I'd rather have a lady tell me, sorry but I'm too tired (or whatever) to give you the session you expect so we need to reschedule. I may be disappointed but I'll respect their honesty.
But don't take my money and then complain you're too tired to provide the full hour I've paid for. Or atleast offer a discount.

I don't send one of my crews out, then complain to the homeowner that we've already done 4 jobs that day so we're only going to do 1/2 the job eventhough they've paid for the full job.
My accountant or lawyer don't whine that they're tired at the end of the day and only see me for 15 minutes but bill me for an hour.

Nobody forced you to do what you are doing. Ladies on this and other boards have consistently posted that being an SP is their choice and how selling sex actually empowers them. Well if it is your chosen profession, then its in your power to do it the right way and not expect your clients who work hard to earn that $$$ they are paying you, to accept less just because they are Dude # 5 in your day.

 

[mercyshooter]

MSOG should be allowed in a session so long as it takes place within the time limits of said session. Remember, we are paying for the lady's TIME, not for SEXUAL SERVICES! If I choose to fire a second or third load during my time with her, then that should be allowed because that's my prerogative. If, however, I choose, instead, to watch the cooking channel to learn new falafel recipes during my session with the lady, then that, too, is my prerogative. If, also, I choose to reenact various Star Wars scenes with her (complete with sound effects and homemade costumes) during my time with her, then that, also, should be allowed because I paid for the time.

Nice one! Hahaha!

 

[dunnochit]

I know this is going to piss some of you off but...

Sorry, I don't care if you've seen 5 other guys and you're a bit sore from fucking all day. Then go home or take a day off. I'd rather have a lady tell me, sorry but I'm too tired (or whatever) to give you the session you expect so we need to reschedule. I may be disappointed but I'll respect their honesty.
But don't take my money and then complain you're too tired to provide the full hour I've paid for. Or atleast offer a discount.

I don't send one of my crews out, then complain to the homeowner that we've already done 4 jobs that day so we're only going to do 1/2 the job eventhough they've paid for the full job.
My accountant or lawyer don't whine that they're tired at the end of the day and only see me for 15 minutes but bill me for an hour.

Nobody forced you to do what you are doing. Ladies on this and other boards have consistently posted that being an SP is their choice and how selling sex actually empowers them. Well if it is your chosen profession, then its in your power to do it the right way and not expect your clients who work hard to earn that $$$ they are paying you, to accept less just because they are Dude # 5 in your day.

This post might piss a few off as well; an observation from the bleachers
A remarkable number of the men on this site seem to have a very low opinion of the ladies here and the profession in general. You speak as if your money should buy you anything you want.
Yep ladies, nobody forced you to do what you do, so take it like a man. If you can’t take 15 – 20 shots on goal a day, WTF are you doin’ in this business anyway? And if you are feeling a little sore, just go home, because all MP’s and Agencies allow you such luxuries because you are “empowered”.
You L 7’s know so little about the business, or what these ladies go through, yet you criticize, demand, complain and offer uninformed opinions on what you think these ladies owe you, as well as advice on what they should be doing. LMAO
I am mostly referring to Agency or MP ladies. Indy's have far more control of who they see, how many appointments per day etc.. Whereas Agency and MP girls have very little say sometimes in the number of clients they see in a day and in most cases must stay until the end of their shift. The money is also usually less, meaning they need to work more, so offering MSOG can add up pretty quickly. I suggest instead of complaining about MSOG, you book shorter appointments or find a good Indy. JMHO

 

[mistressfreyja]

IMO...

one shot on goal or multiple shots on goal doesn't really matter.

If you are able to do MSOG in one hour, or 30 mins, then I am happy to accomodate. I just need to know beforehand, to tailor the session to your needs.

Simple as that. Communication...not extra funds.

 

[JFF009]

Why would MSOG not be allowed during a one hour session? I mean, you're paying for one hour of service, you're paying for sexual intercourse/BJ/different positions. What does it matter how many shots you take?

Would it not make sense for you to just look for a book with SPs that allow MSOG without charging extra? I've always thought the ladies can offer whatever services they want to offer and as consumers we have the choice of who to see.

Kind of makes me think of the old Nevada brothel that had "Clams on the Half Shell" on the menu, which was defined as "if you don't come three times, you don't pay"

Very funny. If I was pooning in those days I would have saved a lot of money.

Okay. Here`s the thing guys, independent escorts usually allow MSOG and don`t charge extra because they can choose the amount of guys they see a night. At a massage studio, we cannot choose how many clients we see,

Hadn't thought of the agency vs indy angle before...thanks for sharing.

For ME, as an indy, I allow MSOG and the most uncomfortable (or whatever word fits there best) of the MSOG thing is finding out if a client is capable or wanting to do it.
Something like (in a nice tone) "so we have an hour, do you want to pop on off quick with a bj, have some cuddle time, then go for it again FS? or would you like me to prolong the first one as much as I can"

I love this approach. I always think on a first visit there should be 10 mins or so of chatting when you arrive and questions like this are perfect. I'm a one-shot guy and I've had appts where an SP just goes for it in the early going and off I pop 15 mins in to the session (after a 10 min chat ). It can be very disappointing.

In any business, I have found the way to get ahead is to find work that you enjoy or at least find rewarding, work hard at it, be honest, and play fair.

Goddamnit, just tell me in the beginning if you're not going to put out.. that's all i ask..

Also.. if you go around telling everyone how to do their job then fine carry on, but honestly I'm guessing you have a little f-ing respect in day to day dealings. There's a reason she works where she does. Being independent isn't a good choice for a lot of girls, it has its own challenges, risks, considerations and requirements.

Well said alix...I am telling you now that "I won't put out"...
You'll have to be gentle with me.

 

[edmontonsubbie]

I think most women are grateful that I don't book a session with them. They're praying intently, "Please don't choose me, please don't choose me, PLEASE DON'T CHOOSE ME!"

omg...so laughing...I think I could agree...nay...I know I could agree. They would feel slighted in any event....I am often incapable of standards of performance. It's not you...it's me.

kindest,

eddie.

 

[oh3421]

I wonder why...LOL

I think most women are grateful that I don't book a session with them. They're praying intently to themselves, "Please don't choose me! Please don't choose me! PLEASE DON'T CHOOSE ME!"

 

[mimi]

Most of my experience has been in agencies. I worked for a few very good ones and some I was less than happy with.

The difference between working for an agency and being independent, I find, is that working through an agency I think the client and the sp felt the time frame more consciously and this prevented the msog from happening...being independent it is much easier to create a real gfe flow...the client is not fretting about whether he will get off properly etc....a phone call (often too soon!) doesn't evaporate the established mood.

See, I always told clients, when I was with the agency, that if they could shoot twice I would be a happy camper...and they very, very rarely did, although they usually thought they could at the beginning of the session...

So, I wondered....am I not sexy enough? But, now, being indy, the msog thing is quite common, in fact...mmmm...not to brag, but the last 3 clients were 3 shots on goal.....so, to sum up...I think that msog is difficult with agency girls due to the strict adherence to a time budget....

if a girl runs over her time she has to pay the agency for the amount she runs over...did anyone know that? They allow a ten minute window, after that she knows she is losing money...


BTW back when I worked in the '80's 1/2 hr was only BJ, but, I never heard of someone leaving before her time was up until I worked in the nineties when it became common.