Missing AMP Worker?

[susi]

first the AMP worker killed in burnaby. then tony(brobosan) killed in yaletown, now an AMP worker is missing? i wonder how the feminazi's feel about all the harm they've caused with their anti trafficking campaign and subsequent raids/ deportations and lack of trust for police amongst these workers....

also, it seems like even more workers are migrating here as a result of anti trafficking campaign claims of "big money" for the sex industry during the games (which has been proven untrue-it cause a bit of an economic crash -if you want the report pm me)

it's seems they are causing the very thing they tried to prevent......arogant cunts....

 

[Bartdude]

Umm, at the risk of getting flamed to death, how is this the fault of those trying to fight trafficking?

 

[susi]

anti trafficking campaings by rape relief in vancouver made the police raid AMPS, where VPD entered guns drawn everyone on the floor....basically scaring the shit out of them and took no supports or interpreters for the so called victims of trafficking and then when it was doscivered the workers weren't trafficked.....they were deported.

so now, they won't call police when they are robbed or assaulted because police intimidate them and they don't want to be deported.

so, the feminazi's who have no legitinate research to back claims of "big money" and trafficking during the games, lobbied government and police to enforce bawdy house laws to "save" the victims of trafficking with no consideration for the safety or stability of adult consentual sex workers ....and look at the outcome....

i just wonder if they have any conscience at all about all the sex workers they have harmed.......

 

[Willingham]

This is an "underground" world that nobody living in reality cares about. The cops just want the problem to go away - in the end this all funds organized crime so everyone is fair game, including some poor innocent girls from mainland China.

No girls = less money = less money for the gang members involved at the top of the tree.

 

[susi]

This is an "underground" world that nobody living in reality cares about. The cops just want the problem to go away - in the end this all funds organized crime so everyone is fair game, including some poor innocent girls from mainland China.

No girls = less money = less money for the gang members involved at the top of the tree.

sex workers are considered a reasonable casualty in the war on organiized crime...i was told so during a police board meeting...

it begs the question?if police are trying to protect us from organized crime, why do they harm us to get at them? when are tactics too much?

we are trying to get them to answer these questions but...well....you can see what is happening...no more mp's or strip clubs in coquitlam, barely any left in vancouver...down the valley it's no better, religious zeal is alive and well...

if more people spoke out ....but stigma becomes a barrier...sometimes i feel i'm bailing out the ocean with a thimble...

 

[westcoast555]

Marginalizing prostitutes makes them vulnerable

That's a legitimate question. First of all, it leads to a lot of the immigrants having a fear or reporting threats/crime to the police. It instills a fear in the worker, or even a distrust of police altogether. And honestly, the police would rather get the violent criminal then the hooker. But these girls feel so stigmatised they just try to handle it on their own.

Another thing, which susi mentioned, is girls hear all of the stereotypes about the sex industry. The anti-prostitution crowd likes to talk about the "massive amounts of money" you make. It's just not factual.

CAN you make good money? Yes. Does everyone? No. Do the girls working in micros make good money? Not really. But these 'promises' of fortune the anti-pro crowd puts out there really entices people. The fact of the matter is the money can be anywhere from average to great. But there are still expenses that no one tells you about. If you're a low volume provider in an AMP (say 5 clients a day, as for an AMP that would be low volume), after work expenses you're walking home with maybe 300 or so dollars. And that's if you got lucky and the clients booked a full hour. Assuming you work 4 or 5 days a week, it really doesn't add up to much when you think about the cost of living in Vancouver and the fact most of these girls have family overseas to send money to.

Please don't get me wrong, it's not BAD money but it's nowhere near the "riches" the anti-prostitution lobby makes it out to be. But for a lot of these girls, once you're in there's not much of a way out. Especially if they immigrated here illegally on the hope of this money they hear so much about.

This is the basic truth that the puritans have yet to understand (or perhaps they believe consciously or unconsiously that these 'sinners' should pay for their transgressions).

Driving prostitution underground, marginalizing it and heaping the industry with scorn serves only to make women more vulnerable to predators and exploiters alike. If prostitution were legal and regulated it would eliminate a lot of underage exploitation - and probably disease too. It wouldn't make it an ideal scenario - socialization problems would still exist and services would ideally be available to help women get out of the lifestyle if they wanted to.

There is so much sanctimony, hypocrisy, and outright dishonesty around sex in our society that it seems the commercialization of sex is is fine as long as it doesn't sell the pleasure of the act itself. As long as it's used to manipulate people for other purposes it's fine. Put a smile on someone's face and give them an orgasm and it's somehow become an 'act of violence'

Like any transaction at its core it's an exchange of value. You can choose to look at it as a man exploiting a woman's need for money to obtain sex. Or you can look at it as a woman exploiting a man's need for sex to get money. The point is that it's a consensual transaction between adults. End of sermon

 

[summerbreeze]

Anytime the police or local government crack down on vice they will tend to drive it further underground.

Further underground often means more dangerous for those working in those industries because "underground" allows for organized crime infrastructure and black market protection (pimps etc.)

The moral issue tends to be that society can't come out and publicly allow these activities because it teaches youth that its ok. Everyone knows that it exists though, but they prefer a theoretical and moral stance and tend to shelter their awareness of the dangers to victims who are used and preyed upon by remaining ignorant to the problems.

Police follow their mandates from local government, local government do what the voting majority prefer, and so you end up with people not wanting to deal with realities.

It is a shame because these are people who can get into situations in which they need help to get out of. Our social safety net tends to fall apart by not helping those in need and structurally correcting things.

As to Asian distrust of law enforcement. That goes back centuries and the mistrust of police by Asian girls will not disappear in our lifetime. Its a cultural issue based on practical experience. I happen to believe that in our current era this mistrust is more perceived than real but things like the trafficking enforcement just reinforce these age old beliefs about trusting the police.

Only solution to some of these problems is more awareness and use of the free press.

not that I know anything at all, just some thoughts to consider

 

[mistressfreyja]

So true.

Well written, and hits the nail on the head.

This is the basic truth that the puritans have yet to understand (or perhaps they believe consciously or unconsiously that these 'sinners' should pay for their transgressions).

Driving prostitution underground, marginalizing it and heaping the industry with scorn serves only to make women more vulnerable to predators and exploiters alike. If prostitution were legal and regulated it would eliminate a lot of underage exploitation - and probably disease too. It wouldn't make it an ideal scenario - socialization problems would still exist and services would ideally be available to help women get out of the lifestyle if they wanted to.

There is so much sanctimony, hypocrisy, and outright dishonesty around sex in our society that it seems the commercialization of sex is is fine as long as it doesn't sell the pleasure of the act itself. As long as it's used to manipulate people for other purposes it's fine. Put a smile on someone's face and give them an orgasm and it's somehow become an 'act of violence'

Like any transaction at its core it's an exchange of value. You can choose to look at it as a man exploiting a woman's need for money to obtain sex. Or you can look at it as a woman exploiting a man's need for sex to get money. The point is that it's a consensual transaction between adults. End of sermon

 

[maroonedsailor]

As always

It's about the money. The judges, lawyers, court clerks, prison guards etc. make their living exploiting petty crimes. Legalizing drugs and prostitution will cause huge wage losses. What will all those DEA agents, Sheriffs, mounties, judges, lawyers etc do for a job? Where will all the illegal payoffs go?
A massage license with restrictions is 200 dollars and without restrictions it's 8500. Who's pimping who???????? No change without blood in the streets. Meanwhile live your life and judge not that ye be not judged.

 

[mistressfreyja]

Whoever cast the first stone...

live your life and judge not that ye be not judged.

Can you throw it at the right-wingers, please?

(Plus a couple of other folks on my list? Please contact for details of who.)

 

[Silver Surfer]

Update

A body has been found in the missing AMP worker's car. It hasn't been identified as hers but they do say that it is related to the burnt body found in a car earlier. I have a feeling that there is a LOT more to this story that we will not hear about.

SS

 

[HunkyBill]

Just horrible

Wow. This is truly looking awful and is bad for everyone, especially her family if the missing girl is a victim. Every client that she ever saw is a suspect. This is also a wake-up call for everyone to maybe choose another hobby.

 

[susi]

found in the trunk of her own car, dead.....

 

[Thatotherguy]

found in the trunk of her own car, dead.....

Has it been confirmed that it was her? I know, the odds of it being somebody else are pretty damn slim, but the last news I heard was that they hadn't positively identified the body. In some ways it doesn't matter, because regardless of whose body they found, the fact is that they found a body, and that means that someone was killed.

 

[booblover]

looks like a massage place owner in Surrey had something to do with the murder. The AMP worker had made off with her husband and was told by others that the owner (Mary) was out to kill her. Within a month or so..........

 

[mercyshooter]

looks like a massage place owner in Surrey had something to do with the murder. The AMP worker had made off with her husband and was told by others that the owner (Mary) was out to kill her. Within a month or so..........

Where did you get this?

 

[booblover]

they never print Asia news stories in the regular papers with any details. You need to read the Chinese papers and watch their news reports to get the inside scoop on Asian crime.

 

[booblover]

then the husband/boyfriend, who always sneaks back to the wife (because she has money), says he will sue the Sing Tao for the story (obviously now that the GF is gone he is back to the wife and her $$). They printed a retraction/apology today.

 

[mercyshooter]

Haha! It seems like Chinese newspapers "flush" him out.

 

[D&G]

then the husband/boyfriend, who always sneaks back to the wife (because she has money), says he will sue the Sing Tao for the story (obviously now that the GF is gone he is back to the wife and her $$). They printed a retraction/apology today.

Interesting...!!! Is there a link to the paper online?? Need to bable fish it!!!