Men's distorted view of measurements

[hunsperger]

No, I left the requirement of that kind of mathematical knowledge behind me when I ever so gracefully left university.

I know they are math something-or-other...but you bringing them up has me curious as to the relevancy, can you summarize?

you're right, not exactly relevant to the post at hand...

but it is the lounge, so they do grant us some latitude...

you seem to be extremely erudite, which I find oh so sexy...

so was just trying to get to know you better and where your interests lie...

 

[HB40]

Come to think of it, I guess I'm going to learn something.

We can only hope...there might be a chance for you yet.

 

[t1163]

Objection! ...Argumentative & Vague

men have a distorted view

All 3.4 Billion of us?

 

[FortunateOne]

A quiz

I thought this might be fun:

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=6063680336145291905

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Curvy is not fat.

 

[HunkyBill]

Curvy is not fat.

Neither is voluptuous.

 

[Katlyn]

you're right, not exactly relevant to the post at hand...

but it is the lounge, so they do grant us some latitude...

you seem to be extremely erudite, which I find oh so sexy...

so was just trying to get to know you better and where your interests lie...

stupid 10 character limit...

 

[Violet]

I think most SPs are afraid to advertise their real measurements & age, because any guy with experience seeing SPs will likely add several inches & several years in his head, assuming they are lying. For example, a 25 yr old might be advertised as 22, but if she was actually advertised as 25, prospective clients would assume she was actually 30.

I agree that repeat business depends on a lot more than one's age, weight & measurements, but it does affect first-time clientelle, as when a client is just reading or hearing the SP's description that is all he has to go by (other than her "menu" of course).

I don't think the measurements/ weight misunderstanding has to do with women not loving their bodies (although many unfortunately don't) or entirely with the fact that most clients will add a few inches & a few pounds, because it has been my experience that many men do not understand women's measurements or what is "average", plus they expect us to weigh substantially less than a man of the same height would. I have had men who swore that I couldn't weigh over 100 lbs, because for some reason they think a petite woman must weigh 100 lbs or that that is the ideal weight. I do not think they were saying this to try to flatter me, BTW.

But I bet a lot of women couldn't guess a man's weight or measurements acurately either.

 

[doglips]

But in this industry we have to market ourselves to those same men by using the scale that men are used to...it is a self perpetuating cycle that will never end..

Beautiful, Thin, 32A-26-35, Smart and Genuine

I certainly agree with your points but wonder why you chose to include the obvious info about yourself I've highlighted in bold in your advertising. Does that not contribute to the self perpetuating cycle you so rightly decry?

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I certainly agree with your points but wonder why you chose to include the obvious info about yourself I've highlighted in bold in your advertising. Does that not contribute to the self perpetuating cycle you so rightly decry?

How so? If she really is thin, doesn't that describe accurately what one should expect regardless of what they make of her 'stats'?

 

[doglips]

How so? If she really is thin, doesn't that describe accurately what one should expect regardless of what they make of her 'stats'?

I thought one of the points of the op was that society and men in particular have a distorted view of what's considered acceptably attractive in women leading to all kinds of body issue problems. Also that "thinness" is defined as good and in an ever distorted fashion leading to unrealistic expectations by all, never mind the sometimes life threatening health issues. These are general points I agree with and I thought were being made in this thread.

If that is so then IMHO incuding "thin" in the advertising may help perpetuate the notions above. It seems superfluous to me and could appear to only be there to cater to men's (society's) distorted perspective of what's attractive and contribute to the self perpetuating cycle that was mentioned by the op. (And I know not everyone has the same ideas of what is appealing/attractive, we are speaking in abstract generalities after all.)

If the points I raised above aren't being made by the op then that's the end of it I guess.

 

[island-guy]

Numbers can mean all sorts of things, without a photo to go along with them, it's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get.

I can think of two of my ex's, and I know for sure that these numbers are accurate because I measured them myself:

1) 5'9" 34C-25-34 ... 124 lbs - She had a nice body, with a bit of 'baby fat' on her, definately NOT skin and bones.

2) 5'2" 32B-25-34 ... 125 lbs - She had hardly any fat on her at all, a bit too skinny even.

The thing is, #1 was all legs and #2 had short legs and a long torso. Made a huge difference in the height/weight ratios.

They were also only 3 months apart in age, but #2 looked (and acted) at least 5-10 years older.

So, it all comes down to an HONEST and RECENT photo being the only real way to judge anything. The actual numbers mean nothing, and tell you next to nothing, what matters is what it all looks like.

 

[Katlyn]

I certainly agree with your points but wonder why you chose to include the obvious info about yourself I've highlighted in bold in your advertising. Does that not contribute to the self perpetuating cycle you so rightly decry?

I thought one of the points of the op was that society and men in particular have a distorted view of what's considered acceptably attractive in women leading to all kinds of body issue problems. Also that "thinness" is defined as good and in an ever distorted fashion leading to unrealistic expectations by all, never mind the sometimes life threatening health issues. These are general points I agree with and I thought were being made in this thread.

If that is so then IMHO incuding "thin" in the advertising may help perpetuate the notions above. It seems superfluous to me and could appear to only be there to cater to men's (society's) distorted perspective of what's attractive and contribute to the self perpetuating cycle that was mentioned by the op. (And I know not everyone has the same ideas of what is appealing/attractive, we are speaking in abstract generalities after all.)

If the points I raised above aren't being made by the op then that's the end of it I guess.

Well first my post had nothing to do with what is considered acceptably attractive. Nor did I say anything about any particular body type being heralded by society. Someone who is tiny is beautiful to one person and someone who is large is beautiful to another, and that is another topic entirely. What I simply said is that people do not understand what measurements actually look like, for a variety of reasons, and that it is a self perpetuating cycle because we are all working on a scale that is not quite accurate and it would be nearly impossible to switch to an accurate scale.

This thread was not started as a discussion of body image issues, the evils of the fashion industry and media, etc etc. It was just musings on how what we believe to be a 25 inch waist is usually much higher and how because we are not using an accurate scale most people think that a woman with a 30 inch waist or who weighs 150lbs is much larger than she really is. This is was neither a positive nor negative thread, it was just a comment.

Second I describe that I am thin not to perpetuate something, rather because I REALLY am thin. So thin that a lot of people are totally turned off by my body type. It is a selling point to some but it is also a huge negative to some. It is important that I represent myself accurately because I do not have a small waist / small breasts due to being petite, I have them because I am really thin and I do not want anyone to expect someone with meat on their bones and not have a good time with me. I'm not unhealthy, I'm totally within healthy range, but I have a fashion model physique with proportions that are not average (if you know anything about fashion figures I have almost exactly the "unrealistic" proportions of the fashion illustration figure). But that physique is something that makes me stand out from other SPs and so of course I advertise it just like some girls advertise they squirt and some advertise they are voluptuous or they have huge implants or they specialize in a certain service...or whatever. My physique is no better, nor worse than anyone else's. But it is what makes me different.

 

[trackstar]

Well first my post had nothing to do with what is considered acceptably attractive. Nor did I say anything about any particular body type being heralded by society. Someone who is tiny is beautiful to one person and someone who is large is beautiful to another, and that is another topic entirely. What I simply said is that people do not understand what measurements actually look like, for a variety of reasons, and that it is a self perpetuating cycle because we are all working on a scale that is not quite accurate and it would be nearly impossible to switch to an accurate scale.

This thread was not started as a discussion of body image issues, the evils of the fashion industry and media, etc etc. It was just musings on how what we believe to be a 25 inch waist is usually much higher and how because we are not using an accurate scale most people think that a woman with a 30 inch waist or who weighs 150lbs is much larger than she really is. This is was neither a positive nor negative thread, it was just a comment.

Second I describe that I am thin not to perpetuate something, rather because I REALLY am thin. So thin that a lot of people are totally turned off by my body type. It is a selling point to some but it is also a huge negative to some. It is important that I represent myself accurately because I do not have a small waist / small breasts due to being petite, I have them because I am really thin and I do not want anyone to expect someone with meat on their bones and not have a good time with me. I'm not unhealthy, I'm totally within healthy range, but I have a fashion model physique with proportions that are not average (if you know anything about fashion figures I have almost exactly the "unrealistic" proportions of the fashion illustration figure). But that physique is something that makes me stand out from other SPs and so of course I advertise it just like some girls advertise they squirt and some advertise they are voluptuous or they have huge implants or they specialize in a certain service...or whatever. My physique is no better, nor worse than anyone else's. But it is what makes me different.

Give her a break She's describing her body type, not making sales pitch.

 

[maxx50]

What numbers

Sorry but you have to show me a picture.. i don't go by the numbers.. unless it is brest size then I look for the small sizes.. but age .. i know that is usally off. weight .. to hight .. maybe .. but just show me a pic .. i know what attracts me .. faces, small breasts.. nice waist.. . nice hips and butt .. but no where does it have to be some magic numbers like 34 24 36.. My fave is 34 26 40 and a bout 140.. but she is just the way I like her.

 

[doglips]

Well first my post had nothing to do with what is considered acceptably attractive. Nor did I say anything about any particular body type being heralded by society...

This thread was not started as a discussion of body image issues, the evils of the fashion industry and media, etc etc. It was just musings on how what we believe to be a 25 inch waist is usually much higher and how because we are not using an accurate scale most people think that a woman with a 30 inch waist or who weighs 150lbs is much larger than she really is. This is was neither a positive nor negative thread, it was just a comment...

Second I describe that I am thin not to perpetuate something, rather because I REALLY am thin...

I stand corrected and somewhat humbled by your well thought out response and the eloquence of it's delivery. I intended no offence and hope none was taken.

 

[t1163]

In the eye of the politically correct...

Curvy is not fat.

Curvy is not thin.
Curvy is not athletic.
Curvy is not ectomorph.

 

[Violet]

I'm listing my true age & measurements, but the fact that most SPs don't makes me wonder if anyone is going to believe me.... oh well

 

[trackstar]

I've come up with an idea to stop this. A money back guarantee you are who you say you are.

I don't think she should be put in any position to have to prove anything.

 

[trackstar]

Why not? It's a financial transaction. If someone went to sell you a 2005 BMW and it turned out to be a 2002 Camry, you'd be pissed off, right ?

She's not a thing or an object. She is a person providing a service. You pay for what service you desire, you choose the person that provides it. Having the word, "Slim" on her website is a descriptor of her body type. She believes she is thin. If you see her and she is not the person you want to provide service to you, then you walk away. No big deal, right?