MARS - Maverick's Appearance Rating System

[maverick73]

You watch waaay too much television or movies and you've been brainwashed by glossy covers. Real women don't look like what you've described as ideal. Even those models or cover girls have been air-brushed, spent 2+ hours in a makeup chair, hair that has been teased, wired or extensions added to the crown, a good photographer spending 2+ hours to get a good shot with flattering lighting and the pic is still tweaked. Anyone remember the Kate Winslet/Vanity Fair fiasco?

I actually don't think the typical magazine cover model is very hot. They often look quite fake to me. I beg to differ that real women can't look what I've described as ideal. You just haven't looked hard enough (or at all) and I don't blame you because you're not a man looking . Just like what they say with a car. When you buy a new car, all of a sudden you notice all the cars on the road that are the same model as yours. 9.0's and 9.5's SHOULD BE HARD TO FIND BY DEFINITION... so even if you WERE looking, they would be rare... which is what makes them special! Only about 10% of the women out there are going to meet this criteria, probably less since the scale isn't quite linear.

 

[maverick73]

Mav, being under 5'3" IS NOT a negative! I love petite women, many of whom are under 5'3".

---Dr. Moe

I've readjusted my system and will post a final one after getting all feedback. For the purposes of buying sex, I totally agree with you.

 

[maverick73]

But the height thing is ridiculous! A 5 foot tall woman can be perfect in every way, why on earth would she not be a 10? Tom Cruise is a 9-10 and he's super short! Height should not enter into it.

I am surprised to see so many women up in arms about this! The customers are going to rate us just like a food critic rates a restaurant, it's the nature of doing business! So your choices are a) being rated improperly by guys like Wiggley and coming out a 5 or b)having a standard version so the numbers are at least in the right ballpark. There is no c)somehow get every guy to stop using a rating scale because it's "degrading". This is after all an escort review board and part of a review is a rating for some people. We can keep the old system brought in by Hipster where only BBBJ rate us a 10? Although that should be for services, not looks.

Lady Creole brought up a very good point and that is most guys have no idea of how make-up affects a girls looks, or that all models are airbrushed for magazines!! I remember watching Survivor, the one with twig and stick, and one of the guys in the room was all "that heidi (twig) isn't even very pretty." Then at the finale when they are all cleaned up his tongue was hanging out of his mouth and he was all "wow, she IS hot." And I couldn't resist pointing out "it's called make-up and hair products!"

One more negative, sorry Mav, is that I don't know where you hang out but if 80% of the guys in a room turned their heads, 60% would get dumped on the spot by their Gf's for oogling other women, no matter how hot. Maybe if you said at a singles club 80% turn their heads, that would make sense, or on the street. I turn heads sometimes and I am no way a 9, I'm told I'm a 7, which is fine by me, I know I'll never be 21 again. However without make-up, I'm probably a 5, a lot of women are plain without any make-up (even beautiful ones). I like the way you did mention that hair, skin, clothes etc can bring you up a notch. I'm all over that!

1. Tom Cruise is a 9.0 in my reverse MARS system. His height is a negative, but he's strong in the other areas which puts him at 9.0, but not 9.5.

2. Heidi from Survivor in my book is a typical example of 8.5. She looked hot with her fake boobs and makeup, but strip away all that and she's not quite there. Hence, she doesn't make 9.0. My system really is quite simple. That being said, I wouldn't turn down a Jenna and Heidi duo.

3. As mentioned before about the head turning, I didn't mean it LITERALLY. Women are more subtle about it. You'll always see them checking out the other hot girls in the establishment, to see if they are better than them. Men usually aren't as subtle, but are forced to be when in the company of their SO, but you can still tell. They make not look right away, but REST ASSURED, before that lady leaves, they will find away to get a closer look at her whether it's taking the long route to the washroom to timing their exit so they pass her way.

4. Based on limited intel I have on you, 7.0 is exactly where I'd put you.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

This is factual...ask anyone I know

I turn heads. Everytime I go to a club/bar or whatever, I leave with a bunch of numbers. I don't approach these guys, or in one case, a girl. I don't wear a lot of makeup, I try to keep it as natural as possible as to leave with the impression that I wake up that way after I've scratched myself and gave a good yawn, splashed some water on my face and go about my day. My girlfriends have rarely been asking me to join them for drinks or fun in town because I'm the one who gets hit on and ruins their night when they are looking to score in subtle form.

According to my male friends, I intimidate any women who has joined in on the fun. I'm told it's the self-assurance and confidence I exude.

I don't know what it is that I'm doing but according to your scale a head turner wouldn't be the girl next door.

So with this bit of info, what am I?

It appears that scores get higher when one presents themselves with confidence and a little more than air between their ears.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I actually don't think the typical magazine cover model is very hot. They often look quite fake to me. I beg to differ that real women can't look what I've described as ideal. You just haven't looked hard enough (or at all) and I don't blame you because you're not a man looking . Just like what they say with a car. When you buy a new car, all of a sudden you notice all the cars on the road that are the same model as yours. 9.0's and 9.5's SHOULD BE HARD TO FIND BY DEFINITION... so even if you WERE looking, they would be rare... which is what makes them special! Only about 10% of the women out there are going to meet this criteria, probably less since the scale isn't quite linear.

And so with all the makeup removed, do you think Miss Universe 2005 looks just like she did when she won the crown?

 

[maverick73]

What some of us SPs are up in arms about is not the fact that we weren't rated higher, it's that looks cannot be generalized and are only and always subjective.

The point of the system is to get a general idea where a lady stands and then the poster can then elaborate on what she looked like and state his preferences. Using a set of guidelines, most reviewers should be within 0.5, or at worst 1.0 even with personal biases thrown in. This can reduce the sometimes hugely large differences in ratings. My system is based on the 80/20 rule, meaning that in general, if 100 people were to apply it to 1 SP, 80% of them should generally agree (within 0.5 points). You will of course have your 20% that don't agree, which is where the subjectivity comes in.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

3. This thread in your opinion may sound superficial, but that doesn't make it's poster (me) superficial.

4. I've seen other pictures of you, and based my rating on as much information as I could, including conversations with you and how you described yourself. In my mind, I had a range of 6.5 to 7.5, and settled on the safe number of 7.0 with the limited information I had.

Sadly, it DOES make you superficial and shallow. There really is no way around it. Paid sex or not, this scale could not be applied to any woman that you'd be happy with the results without overlooking one small detail that would subtract her final number.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

What some of us SPs are up in arms about is not the fact that we weren't rated higher, it's that looks cannot be generalized and are only and always subjective. Like snowflakes, no two SPs in looks are alike. Every client has there own opinion about who they find attractive. It is a review board but reviews on looks can be cleaned up and a lot less crass by that I mean an actual number. One guy here describes an asian SP as fuckin ugly quite possibly less than a 5, another guy who has seen the same SP describes her as pretty probably a 7. I see they are opinions, but of those lurkers who have taken a look at the review of the "5" SP probably wouldn't see her because of one guys personal opinion. They would never know if she was higher number to them unless they saw her. What I'm proposing is review without the looks number rating, say "I found her to be very pretty." or "She wasn't my type." instead of actual numbers, it's observant and not at all degrading. It's just not a fair share of hands basing looks on a number.

Well, to quote myself. Maverick, I ask you to refer to the first few sentences than make your judgments.

 

[maverick73]

To Mav,
Your beauty scale setting is scarely.You are telling the whole world every beautiful woman has to conform to your scale of beauty. In a way,you are dictating your convention of beauty . There might be many beautiful women who are conformed to your scale ,but unfortunately they will be just like many other things else in North America lacking of uniqueness! i.e. many girls dye their hair to plantinum blonde.I prefer to see an unique individual than to see a beautiful woman conform to a scale like a product!

And last of all,your scale is hurting many ladies. One may do a boob job, a cosmetic surgery to change body parts;however many parts of our body cannot be changed.If someone( a woman or man) is borned with some not very desirable features,that person will be judged for being sub-standard!
None of us wanted to be judged unfairly.

IMHO,your document may be good as a university research thesis. It is very arguementative.I would suggest you be more open-minded about beauty. Beauty is just like fine art, it is impossible to define what is perfect!Each person is perfect and unique with their own right!!

1. Whoah, where is this coming from. I'm not dictating anything. I also didnt mention anything about hair color. There are MANY MANY different WAYS to arrive at the same number of 8.0 for example. How is this affecting uniqueness? I'm not saying in order to be an 8.0, you need to look a certain way. I'm saying, there are about 10 different factors in rating how you look, and after considering all factors, this is where you may stand.

2. Looks is just 1 trait of a person. For the sake of this thread, let's consider intelligence and athletic ability along with looks as the 3 main traits that God gave us. Let's say each person is equal and has 24 points to assign. Some may get 10 in looks but only 6 in intelligence and 8.0 in athletic ability. Some may have 6 in looks, but be an awesome athlete (10 for ability) and 8 for inteliigence. They are all unique and equal. Not everybody can be a 10.0 in the looks department. I'm not a 10. I don't strive to be. No matter how hard I try, I'll never be a 10 in my own system. I've optimized what I got by eating a healthy diet and leading a healthy lifestyle and I'd never change my body for anybody elses. I love my body just the way God gave it to me. I more than make up for my lack of a perfect body with my other attributes.

 

[maverick73]

Did I tell you guys my last boyfriend was 6'7" and I'm 5'0". His last girlfriend was 5'11". He said he preferred to be with someone he could curl like a dumb bell, me. Small precious.

That makes perfect sense. Now keep asking, and I think you'll find that about 80% of the men prefer somebody slightly shorter than them, and 20% will be like your ex bf, preferring extremes like a 17" difference.

Keep in mind one of the purposes of this thread is to learn. I'm not saying I know it all. I'm trying to find out for myself too. It's been a good discussion so far.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

1. Whoah, where is this coming from. I'm not dictating anything. I also didnt mention anything about hair color. There are MANY MANY different WAYS to arrive at the same number of 8.0 for example. How is this affecting uniqueness? I'm not saying in order to be an 8.0, you need to look a certain way. I'm saying, there are about 10 different factors in rating how you look, and after considering all factors, this is where you may stand.

2. Looks is just 1 trait of a person. For the sake of this thread, let's consider intelligence and athletic ability along with looks as the 3 main traits that God gave us. Let's say each person is equal and has 24 points to assign. Some may get 10 in looks but only 6 in intelligence and 8.0 in athletic ability. Some may have 6 in looks, but be an awesome athlete (10 for ability) and 8 for inteliigence. They are all unique and equal. Not everybody can be a 10.0 in the looks department. I'm not a 10. I don't strive to be. No matter how hard I try, I'll never be a 10 in my own system. I've optimized what I got by eating a healthy diet and leading a healthy lifestyle and I'd never change my body for anybody elses. I love my body just the way God gave it to me. I more than make up for my lack of a perfect body with my other attributes.

Ahhh. The whole package! Finally someone ranks higher when they start to speak.

 

[Jodie]

That makes perfect sense. Now keep asking, and I think you'll find that about 80% of the men prefer somebody slightly shorter than them, and 20% will be like your ex bf, preferring extremes like a 17" difference.

Actually, the difference between 6'7" and 5'0" is 19". Maverick, I think you might have flunked the final exam for your Bachelor of Basic Subtraction

 

[maverick73]

Maverick, you know we tight, but you should ease up on the
"shorties"
i think you have to allow the height to be 5-5'11" without any issue for deductions.
i know you are trying to "quantify the essence of hottiness" but there are alot of "shorties" who are under 5'5 who are pretty fvcking fine.
i agree that for a dude, it is alittle more ideal for shortie to be 4-6 inches shorter than him because that is the ideal kissing/dancing/looking in each other's eyes ergonomical angles, especially when shortie wears 2" heels.
so that is where your own 5'7-5'9 preference comes in. (i say that as another 6 ft. dude to another). tilt her pretty face up and it is the perfect kissing posture.

"You know I'm dangerous" Iceman.

1. You hit the nail on the button. 5'0 to 5'11" without deductions done.
2. The kissing/dancing/looking in each others eyes is exactly what I was thinking. I've dated long term a 4'11" girl, a 5'3" girl, and a 5'7" girl. The 5'7" when wearing heels was just about perfect!

"Cool as ice. No mistakes bro."

PS I read your post about the Beauty and the Geek adjustment. I've got my hands full as is just responding to all these posts. I felt that I needed to take the time to respond to each post individually to clarify various issues. Maybe we'll put in a Geek Factor in version 2.0. Right now I'm still working on version 1.0 beta.

 

[maverick73]

Welcome to the Mav-Haters club. Would you like me to introduce you to everybody, or do you know them all already? Applications are currently being sought for president, vice-president, and treasurer. Will you be submitting yours?

I have read lots of posts, and seen some bizarre stuff. This takes the cake.

Maverick, my only suggestion to you is keep up with the analysis, I think it will likely be your greatest contribution to society. Which isn't saying much.

You are either 1) trying to convince us that your system is the best and we should take your ratings as gospel. or 2) You take yourself too seriously or 3) You are trying to really explain yourself to others like we actually care. Needing us to like and respect you.

Your reaction to EDEN not liking what you have to say indicates you might be oblivious to the fact that what you posted might be a tad offensive to the girls that you rate

I would first suggest to them to consider the source (which I think EDEN did, hence the sarcastic posts). I was curious about your project before (what your motivation was). I now will just pass your posts by.

I am kind of concerned that I just read some sort of Manifesto like from the UNIBOMBER.

 

[maverick73]

I turn heads. Everytime I go to a club/bar or whatever, I leave with a bunch of numbers. I don't approach these guys, or in one case, a girl. I don't wear a lot of makeup, I try to keep it as natural as possible as to leave with the impression that I wake up that way after I've scratched myself and gave a good yawn, splashed some water on my face and go about my day. My girlfriends have rarely been asking me to join them for drinks or fun in town because I'm the one who gets hit on and ruins their night when they are looking to score in subtle form.
According to my male friends, I intimidate any women who has joined in on the fun. I'm told it's the self-assurance and confidence I exude.
I don't know what it is that I'm doing but according to your scale a head turner wouldn't be the girl next door.
So with this bit of info, what am I?
It appears that scores get higher when one presents themselves with confidence and a little more than air between their ears.

Well you would be the exception to the rule then, in the 20% .

Going SOLELY on what you said, you would be a 9.0 from 1 point of view, and a 7.0 on another point of view. If it makes you happy, average it out and be an 8.0. I don't really care. I've read the rest of your posts and I'm not going to bother responding publicly. If you want to discuss further, email or PM me. I don't have time to continue responding to your posts. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't expect everybody to agree with me.

 

[maverick73]

Actually, the difference between 6'7" and 5'0" is 19". Maverick, I think you might have flunked the final exam for your Bachelor of Basic Subtraction

SHHHH$$$TTTT!!!! YOU GOT ME!!!!!!! Damnit, it took 4 months, a groggy and tired Maverick, but you BURNED ME GOOD!!! Thanks for keeping me honest. I can only aspire to have as many degrees as you one day (sigh) Keep up the good work girl!
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On that note, I think I'm finally done. Goodnight everybody.

 

[lenny]

Originally Posted by georgebushmoron
Can you write us a thesis on rating the beauty of a girl's asshole? I'd like to read it, thanks.

I'm working on that one. Target date is April, 2007.

I thot that was going to be the back end of 2006.

 

[Eden]

Mav

You took a beating and you keep on licking (oops meant ticking). Good on you for at least trying to respond to all of the hate mail, ty for adjusting your criteria. Stay honest and try to smile through the shit!!

 

[chuckw]

Who ?

Who is being reviewed here ?

 

[lenny]

Like most I have my own system......

3- pretty sure unless she's one of those friggen chicks thats on the crack track but thinks she's up on high track.

;

this sounds like the ones that have their own private spaceship...