Has anyone watched this documentary series on Netflix?
It's very interesting/fascinating.
Enjoy. Discuss.
It's very interesting/fascinating.
Enjoy. Discuss.
'Making A Murderer' on Netflix
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Not only that, he was really docile. Didnt seem to have a violent bone in his body. Not one flash of aggression or anger at anytime, no matter what happened to him his demeanor never changed. I just cannot visualize that kid doing what he was charged with and all the evidence shows that he was screwed--especially by his scumbag first lawyer who should have been disbarred and sent to jail himself for railroading his client.
I would lean heavily towards both of them not being guilty. Although that is obviously the direction the show's directors lean as well.
If the uncle did do it, it sure as hell didn't happen the way the prosecutors described it in their case. That is the part that I find almost most baffling. A certain amount of strong circumstantial evidence exists against the uncle but how they built the case around it makes no sense to me and seems entirely made up. It is disturbing that this happens still and seemingly so openly with the original lawyer colluding with the prosecutors and maybe even the judge, who knows.
If the uncle did do it, it sure as hell didn't happen the way the prosecutors described it in their case. That is the part that I find almost most baffling. A certain amount of strong circumstantial evidence exists against the uncle but how they built the case around it makes no sense to me and seems entirely made up. It is disturbing that this happens still and seemingly so openly with the original lawyer colluding with the prosecutors and maybe even the judge, who knows.
To put it bluntly...
I saw the entire series when it first came out and I still feel outraged at the unfairness of it all.
It truly disgusts me to see how scumbags with positions of power and a corrupt agenda can so easily ruin someone's life with no regards and respect towards anyone. Sickening and scary!
Since the docuseries came out, petitions have been signed to exonerate Steven Avery but I doubt it will do any good.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35234883
I saw the entire series when it first came out and I still feel outraged at the unfairness of it all.
It truly disgusts me to see how scumbags with positions of power and a corrupt agenda can so easily ruin someone's life with no regards and respect towards anyone. Sickening and scary!
Since the docuseries came out, petitions have been signed to exonerate Steven Avery but I doubt it will do any good.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35234883
This is an excellent article written on the case from a Milwaukee journalist. I hadnt realized watching the show but one of the problems the defense had was that they were not allowed to bring up alternative suspects. She identifies 4 other people with stronger motives than Steven Avery who had access to the salvage yard that day and had criminal records in their past. They include Brendans brother and his stepfather, who only had each other as alibis.
http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/makingamurdereralternativesuspects.html
http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/makingamurdereralternativesuspects.html
Here is an interesting counter view:
http://www.hlntv.com/shows/morning-...5/nancy-grace-making-a-murderer?cid=H57183a10
JD
I just finished Episode 4 of this show and I can undoubtably say this is the most gripping and side winding series I have ever watched in my life. Never have I seen a TV show as compelling as Making A Murderer. This is a must watch for everyone, there are never any down points in this show and it is remarkable how corrupt and unreliable the system can be. I am astonished by this show, everyone drop what you're doing and watch this show.... JUST WOW
All I gotta say is...
All I gotta say is...
Yeah but--its Nancy Grace. When has she ever not stuck up for the prosecution being a former DA herself? She's mostly basing her opinion on a 10 minute phone interview and backing the position of disgraced ex prosecutor Ken Kratz. Its more like she's milking the show to get her mostly forgotten name back in the limelight.
And yeah this is TMZ but--this interview with Len Kachinksy, Brendan Dassey's scumbag lawyer who should be behind bars for his complete incompetence or willingness to frame his own client is very telling in its evasiness. They ask good valid questions and his responses are reprehensible especially his excuse for not being there when Brendan was interviewed by the cops the second time.
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_s4dkwehv
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_s4dkwehv
Thanks for sharing, Hugh.
I haven't looked around yet but do you know of any other interviews done with LE, people involved in the prosecution, jury members, etc. ? If so, would you mind posting them? Thanks!
Here's an interesting Q&A with Filmmakers Moira Demos and Laura Ricciardi:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/making-a-murderer-burning-questions-answered#.skRzrA0a7
:nod:
He always looked so concerned about the way he looked for the camera and smiling for the camera... He treated the whole thing as a popularity contest and as a real joke!
And then there's this. Disgraced Kratz acknowledging that if a test for the blood evidence could prove that it had come from the previous evidence tube they would have to grant Avery a new trial.
I dont even really like Avery much, but the miscarriage of justice here and apparent conspiracy against him and Dassey by all levels of government from the lawyers and judges to the FBI is sort of overwhelming, especially when you consider that there were other people that could have done this aside from him but were never looked at.
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_vqspvlae
I dont even really like Avery much, but the miscarriage of justice here and apparent conspiracy against him and Dassey by all levels of government from the lawyers and judges to the FBI is sort of overwhelming, especially when you consider that there were other people that could have done this aside from him but were never looked at.
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_vqspvlae
I just saw a news blurb on this, what did he say his two brothers did it and framed him.
You know this is nothing new there has been several stories about shit like this, I remember reading one forty years ago about a mute black boy in jail for murder his only crime him being mute,
John Grissim also has a true crime story out, something similar wrong place at the wrong time and being dumb and not liked,
Sad but there really isn't a lot of justice out there,
or truth in the criminal justice system.
in my own court case, every single person in authority or responsible pretty much lied on the witness stand. every fucking single one of them to protect there ass.
I have such a hate for anything resembling authority or any institution period. they are all a bunch of corrupt lying bastards from a guy who has been through the system and seen it all.
no wonder the world is going to hell the wrong guys are in charge of it all.
You know this is nothing new there has been several stories about shit like this, I remember reading one forty years ago about a mute black boy in jail for murder his only crime him being mute,
John Grissim also has a true crime story out, something similar wrong place at the wrong time and being dumb and not liked,
Sad but there really isn't a lot of justice out there,
or truth in the criminal justice system.
in my own court case, every single person in authority or responsible pretty much lied on the witness stand. every fucking single one of them to protect there ass.
I have such a hate for anything resembling authority or any institution period. they are all a bunch of corrupt lying bastards from a guy who has been through the system and seen it all.
no wonder the world is going to hell the wrong guys are in charge of it all.
They are not necessarily suggesting that though it is a possibility. I noted in a previous post that a Milwaukee columnist listed 4 other suspects including family members of Avery who had access to the salvage yard that day and had criminal records but the defense was not allowed by the judge to bring up other suspects during the trial.
to be honest I think there are tons of these stories out there,
the news just picks one that is sexy and runs with it,
the news just picks one that is sexy and runs with it,
I agree. I'm reasonably certain the police didn't kill her, and I'll almost certain that they planted evidence against him, and I'm 99.5% certain that the 16 year old kid had absolutely nothing to do with it.
I can't understand how (a) the judge would allow that confession into testimony, (b) why the other 2-3 alternate confessions weren't admissible in court and (c) why the jury would convict on this. How can anyone what that interrogation and conclude that it was a valid confession. It absolutely blows my mind.
A long but very interesting article: http://www.postcrescent.com/story/n...-pretrial-behavior-called-unethical/78630248/
Worth the read.
Worth the read.
