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Lack of independent providers in downtown Vancouver?

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SSL Management

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Low volume by choice?

They keep the majority of the donation, minus the overhead, so in many cases, they are likely taking a similar cut into their profits.
I challenge your argument.

Many Indy's share incalls because of the cost. The average incall rental is $50 - $70 per hour all in.
No matter what they charge per hour, it is $50 - $70 per hour to rent the incall.

Agencies take between 30% - 50%

Examples:
SP charges $350h
Incall rent $60
Take home: $290

SP charges $400h
Incall rent: $60
Take home: $340

Agency SP charges $350h
Agency takes 30% = $105
Take home: $245

Agency SP charges $400h
Agency takes 30% = $120
Take home: $280

The incall rental and the Agency fees will fluctuate, but the above examples are pretty close to the industry standard.
Yes Indy's pay for their own advertising, however, no matter how you calculate it, Indy's will always take home more money.

And yes; Many Indy's are "low volume" by choice. Quality over quantity!

SSL
 

MISANDRIST

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I challenge your argument.

Many Indy's share incalls because of the cost. The average incall rental is $50 - $70 per hour all in.
No matter what they charge per hour, it is $50 - $70 per hour to rent the incall.

Agencies take between 30% - 50%

Examples:
SP charges $350h
Incall rent $60
Take home: $290

SP charges $400h
Incall rent: $60
Take home: $340

Agency SP charges $350h
Agency takes 30% = $105
Take home: $245

Agency SP charges $400h
Agency takes 30% = $120
Take home: $280

The incall rental and the Agency fees will fluctuate, but the above examples are pretty close to the industry standard.
Yes Indy's pay for their own advertising, however, no matter how you calculate it, Indy's will always take home more money.

And yes; Many Indy's are "low volume" by choice. Quality over quantity!

SSL
oh incalls the only overhead? those are different numbers than what I have been told, but I am no expert.

not too sure what you are trying to accomplish in this thread.
 

MISANDRIST

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Maybe.But then you explain , as an esteemed provider, what a reasonable booking time is.
I think it varies provider to provider, and depends on numerous factors.
But many are capable of booking same day, and short notice.

Didn't know I had to be an "esteemed provider" to have an opinion or make observations.
 

SSL Management

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oh incalls the only overhead? those are different numbers than what I have been told, but I am no expert.

not too sure what you are trying to accomplish in this thread.
At least 4 of the most active contributors to this thread, including the member who initiated this thread, have been members for less than a month! Some less than 2 weeks!
Not sure what that means, if anything, and I don't have an opinion. i just find it interesting and thought others might find it interesting as well!
 

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At least 4 of the most active contributors to this thread, including the member who initiated this thread, have been members for less than a month! Some less than 2 weeks!
Not sure what that means, if anything, and I don't have an opinion. i just find it interesting and thought others might find it interesting as well!
Is someone handing out free tinfoil hats in Vancouver today? Stop with the conspiracy theories, it doesn’t matter if you’ve been a member for 20 years or 20 minutes everyone has to start with post #1!
 

vitaminD

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At least 4 of the most active contributors to this thread, including the member who initiated this thread, have been members for less than a month! Some less than 2 weeks!
Not sure what that means, if anything, and I don't have an opinion. i just find it interesting and thought others might find it interesting as well!
Are you not going to address calling members idiots and being racist on the first page of this thread? what about all the other "facts" you have stated in this thread that people have debunked?
I also see alot of "members" and "well-known members" in this thread calling you out. you ignore them though because deep down you know they are right and too intellectual for you to respond to.
It looks like you have been paying to advertise here for 6 years but don't even have an ad.
 

vitaminD

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I think there are a lot of providers downtown, they’re maybe not your type though.
for escorts that advertise one tryst, leolist ect, theres less than 100 providers downtown, and most only work part time.
if theres "lots" please point us towards where they are advertising 😂
 
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localguy

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It looks like you have been paying to advertise here for 6 years but don't even have an ad.
Don't be fooled. That's coz he/SSL (aka the old Outlook group) runs said incalls to rent to indies. Nope, not biased at all lol

From a business perspective, an hourly incall rental is only favorable when a SP can maximize the rented time spent there. As soon as there's a cancellation or no show, they're stuck with the fee without an appointment to cover it. This is why this works better for more established SPs who may already have repeat clients. They don't have to sit around waiting for them. They can prebook 3 or 4 in one evening, spend 4-5 hours at the rented incall and go home with little to no time wasted.

Contrast that with an agency girl who goes on an 8-hour shift. Even if she only sees 3 clients on her shift, the agency only takes their cut for those 3 appointments, not for the 8 hours spent at the incall. Less risk with less $$ per hour overall but it's also less work coz they don't have to do marketing, text clients and prepare the incall. Agency SP just has to show up.
 
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JackRyder

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How is it ironic?

Laywers and Doctors actually are typically available same day. same with alot of massage therapists and hairdressers.

There are still many providers who accommodate same day. I guess maybe they just have more opportunities for clients than you.
I think the lady was correct.
My doctor books weeks in advance for in-person visits, and days' notice for a one-call. Good doctor.
My lawyer is more flexible but then he has made a few hundred thousand off me so we are good.

Providers I am prepared to book min 24 hrs to a couple weeks in advance depending on what I am booking.

as side , who are these "LAYwers" you speak of ? lol
 

VinVan

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I think the lady was correct.
My doctor books weeks in advance for in-person visits, and days' notice for a one-call. Good doctor.
My lawyer is more flexible but then he has made a few hundred thousand off me so we are good.

Providers I am prepared to book min 24 hrs to a couple weeks in advance depending on what I am booking.

as side , who are these "LAYwers" you speak of ? lol
Ditto. I thought it was also a strange comment, re: same-day doctors and lawyers. At a walk-in clinic, I suppose, but my doctor has a one-month wait list and my lawyer is two weeks at least for a meeting. 🤷🏽‍♂️
 

bruce.pepper

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I think the lady was correct.
My doctor books weeks in advance for in-person visits, and days' notice for a one-call. Good doctor.
My lawyer is more flexible but then he has made a few hundred thousand off me so we are good.

Providers I am prepared to book min 24 hrs to a couple weeks in advance depending on what I am booking.

as side , who are these "LAYwers" you speak of ? lol
There are doctors who are available same day.
There are lawyers who are available same day.
There are escorts who are available same day.

I'm having trouble grasping the core of your argument, as the personal stories you've shared haven't effectively countered any of the points made by either me or others in this conversation.

It seems like you're engaging in this discussion solely to argue for the sake of arguing, and to seek validation by receiving likes and replies from providers on your comments. Kind of sad.

LAYwers is a typo, clearly LOL
 
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