Know your chances (updated risk chart)

[Whiteninja9772]

BBBJ/DATY from the SP's perspective is a very high risk activity...I personally don't engage anymore for obvious reasons, also its way different for the SP instead of the pooner, the SP is servicing WAY more people so the chances of her catching something is much higher.

A lady once told me that if SP's are just in the business for a short while (less than 3 months) and are offering BBBJs etc, they most likely aren't getting as much exposure to as many clients as an SP who is doing this long term, for 1 year or more. So it would be smarter and more responsible in the long term to start wrapping it up. Of course there will be exceptions like SP's who are just plain careless, reckless and like haymitch said, drug addicted and can't afford to say no.

(Anyway, I posted the following in another thread, but I think it belongs here - edited)
The weirdest thing about this industry IMO is the fact that SP's & pooners are being shitted on repeatedly by reviewers & inquirers for choosing to engage in safe acts. I would have thought it would be the other way around, that we would be praised and encouraged for choosing to be safe (or at least be accepted as a default option like covered FS) but no, instead SPs who don't do BBBJ/daty/dfk etc. are repeatedly put down everyday online and in real life. Its quite interesting really, and pretty sad too.

If you didnt know already the reason SPs get shitted on for engaging in safe acts, is because its an intimidation technique used by pooners to coerce the service provider into unsafe acts, a fellow i know even offers better reviews if she complies. Its very obvious when reading the boards when a pooner gets "angry" at not receiving bbbj or full DFK. It makes you wonder what they are so desperate to pass on to another.

when most service providers already know the risks involved in such acts, without the HN help. Its the reason why digits, dfk, bbbj, are off the menu for most ladies. they know the risks, and they arent willing to take one because they partake in the activity much more then the client. and the client in this scenario DOES NOT know best. I trust my service providers and If i couldnt i wouldnt see them.

Ladies need to stand up for their safety more, and not be willing to compromise for a good review, or their personal safety.. just to get a repeat client.
There is no reason why a service provider shouldn't be able to make her own rules regarding how she acts in her job... yet pooners want EVERY worker to be on the same level offering the same services.. that just isnt how the industry should work.

Being pressured to perform unsafe acts is despicable and nobody should be pressured to do so. Its a form of abuse and Sp's shouldnt put up with the bbbj questions because nobody should expect another to put themselves in an unsafe situation they dont feel comfortable in.

I would never ask a lady to perform BBBj, its disrespectful to her health, rude, and unnecessary for my pleasure.

I think a lot of you ladies have been duped into performing acts against your will when it comes to safety, yours should be first.

is the clients pleasure really that important when you could contract something deadly that could potentially end your life or make it miserable forever?
just to please another human? as i man i can tell you.. it really makes no difference to use a condom for a blow job. I prefer it.

 

[Whiteninja9772]

its a one in 2000 chance you can contract HIV from an HIV infected partner even with semen exchange. the risks are still the same with or without semen in the mouth.

 

[Caramel]

If you didnt know already the reason SPs get shitted on for engaging in safe acts, is because its an intimidation technique used by pooners to coerce the service provider into unsafe acts, a fellow i know even offers better reviews if she complies. Its very obvious when reading the boards when a pooner gets "angry" at not receiving bbbj or full DFK. It makes you wonder what they are so desperate to pass on to another.

when most service providers already know the risks involved in such acts, without the HN help. Its the reason why digits, dfk, bbbj, are off the menu for most ladies. they know the risks, and they arent willing to take one because they partake in the activity much more then the client. and the client in this scenario DOES NOT know best. I trust my service providers and If i couldnt i wouldnt see them.

Ladies need to stand up for their safety more, and not be willing to compromise for a good review, or their personal safety.. just to get a repeat client.
There is no reason why a service provider shouldn't be able to make her own rules regarding how she acts in her job... yet pooners want EVERY worker to be on the same level offering the same services.. that just isnt how the industry should work.

Being pressured to perform unsafe acts is despicable and nobody should be pressured to do so. Its a form of abuse and Sp's shouldnt put up with the bbbj questions because nobody should expect another to put themselves in an unsafe situation they dont feel comfortable in.

I would never ask a lady to perform BBBj, its disrespectful to her health, rude, and unnecessary for my pleasure.

I think a lot of you ladies have been duped into performing acts against your will when it comes to safety, yours should be first.

is the clients pleasure really that important when you could contract something deadly that could potentially end your life or make it miserable forever?
just to please another human? as i man i can tell you.. it really makes no difference to use a condom for a blow job. I prefer it.

thank you I completely agree.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Hi All

I just wanted to let you know that our old risk charts have been updated and added to our new website.

The charts provide information about what your chances are of getting or passing on an STI with different kinds of sex.

Here is a link to the page.
http://smartsexresource.com/about-stis/know-your-chances-0

HN
www.smartsexresource.com

Has the actual data been updated or just the charts?

If the updates reflect new information (changes in risks), are there any significant changes from the previous charts/versions? If there are, it would be great if you could quickly highlight them for us.. Or are they mostly minor?

 

[johnsmit]

The major component of safe sex seem to be lost on this group..

If... there is an STD present.. then you could catch it

So the main practice of safe sex is STD testing.. and knowing the sfatuse of the parter.. then none of those activity have any risik

 

[UhOh]

Pooners and providers should be getting tested regularly. See only those providers you know do get tested and stay clean.

Seriously ridiculous. You don't know shit about whether an sp is clean or not. There's a good chance she may not even know. What's an sp going to do if she tests positive? She's now going to switch careers and become a lawyer or a doctor? She most likely keeps right on trucking.

The major component of safe sex seem to be lost on this group..

If... there is an STD present.. then you could catch it

Captain obvious. So you bring an electron microscope and look for viruses before getting it on.


I would guess the percentage of sp's with herpes to be 99.999%. Do pooners no longer consider herpes an std?

 

[Caramel]

So many naive comments, don't realize that every person is different and has their own way of doing things. You can't speak for all pooners when you're referring to your way of handling things. People also lie and make up stories...plus the majority of reviews on this board aren't about "ladies in red"...most of them are about micro girls, or private independents. Major facepalm for some of these comments, no common sense detected...lol seems like I'm reading posts from pre-teens who don't know any better!

Seriously ridiculous. You don't know shit about whether an sp is clean or not. There's a good chance she may not even know. What's an sp going to do if she tests positive? She's now going to switch careers and become a lawyer or a doctor? She most likely keeps right on trucking.


Captain obvious. So you bring an electron microscope and look for viruses before getting it on.


I would guess the percentage of sp's with herpes to be 99.999%. Do pooners no longer consider herpes an std?

Totally agree with these statements

 

[UhOh]

Guess we are seeing a different class of lady.

LOL, you see women that suck cock for a living. Did you happen to notice that, the bit about where they suck cock for a living?
No offense ladies, God bless, we have needs and you're providing a service at great risk to yourselves.
But it does no one any good to stick our heads up our asses and pretend what we do is wholesome and clean.

 

[google_123]

LOL, you see women that suck cock for a living. Did you happen to notice that, the bit about where they suck cock for a living?
No offense ladies, God bless, we have needs and you're providing a service at great risk to yourselves.
But it does no one any good to stick our heads up our asses and pretend what we do is wholesome and clean.

I agree with UhOh. I am also surprised this thread is 3 pages long already....I figured, all this was redundant. It is just the health nurse put it in a more visually direct manner.
If any of you didn't know this, I suggest you go back and read more on her page before you go on your next visit.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

snip...Ladies need to stand up for their safety more, and not be willing to compromise for a good review, or their personal safety.. just to get a repeat client. There is no reason why a service provider shouldn't be able to make her own rules regarding how she acts in her job... yet pooners want EVERY worker to be on the same level offering the same services.. that just isnt how the industry should work.

snip...I think a lot of you ladies have been duped into performing acts against your will when it comes to safety, yours should be first.

is the clients pleasure really that important when you could contract something deadly that could potentially end your life or make it miserable forever?
just to please another human? as i man i can tell you.. it really makes no difference to use a condom for a blow job. I prefer it.

I have lost count of the fellas that see my pictures, and ask me if I offer Greek. When I say no, they go further. "Why not? Have you tried it? I'm sure you'll like it with me. My dick's not too big. Maybe you'd like to try it just with me, just once? I'll give you extra $$$. How much extra $$$ would you like so that you'll say yes."

It really is exceptionally annoying.

And you have no idea how many times I've been hung up on when the question is asked, Do you do bbbj? I say, no, but I've got a great reputation for my CBJ though...click...dial tone................................................

 

[BORKO]

LOL, you see women that suck cock for a living. Did you happen to notice that, the bit about where they suck cock for a living?
No offense ladies, God bless, we have needs and you're providing a service at great risk to yourselves.
But it does no one any good to stick our heads up our asses and pretend what we do is wholesome and clean.

Why isn't hooker sex wholesome and clean? As opposed to any other sex?

 

[Ratbert_2008]

This information is simple and easily understood.

If information about percentages and "observable symptoms" etc were added, we'd be so buried in info, that for most of us all value would be lost.

related: KISS principle, Pareto principle.

 

[Ratbert_2008]

iit is more useful for us to know "if you partake in oral sex with what under close observation looks to be a clean healthy sex organs, free of lesions or other obvious signs of problems, your odds of getting something are 0.0005%"

So we have to add a step after payment and shower&mouthwash, but before sexual services where we do a thorough clinical examination?

 

[vancity_cowboy]

there are two types of women in this world...

those that don't mind the idea of having male semen in their mouth, and those that can't stand it

for the former, they will yawn and move on to the next thread after reading the tables

for the latter, they will see the absolute worst possible case scenarios in the tables, then post in the thread what great new insights they provide and how they back up their preferences to not taste male semen

both will go home healthy at the end of the night

it all has NOTHING to do with risks - for the women it has EVERYTHING to do with personal preferences, and for the men, outright ignorance

take a look around you and don't bullshit yourselves. how many people do you actually know who have contracted these horrible diseases? get real

 

[V1Rotate]

This information is simple and easily understood.

If information about percentages and "observable symptoms" etc were added, we'd be so buried in info, that for most of us all value would be lost.

related: KISS principle, Pareto principle.

I disagree entirely. The information isn't really information. Without numbers and statistics to go alongside it, it's pretty much a waste of time. What is their definition of easily passed? 1/20? 1/300? How big was the sample group? Their ages? Their frequency in sexual activity? You can't just post results from a 'study' without also posting the means of achieving such a result.

Let's say chlamydia had an infection rate of 1/300. Let's call this easily passed. Let's also say for arguments sake 1/500 have it. The actual rate is 1/150000, on a per-chance encounter. Point I'm making is that it's two sets of numbers with two very very different results. It all depends on how you want to look at it really.

These types of studies I think only prove to further regress awareness as evidenced by numerous posts here. It's almost like saying we're all dirty or that we will always for sure become infected. This study is lacking perspective.

 

[google_123]

but you do daty, don't you? nobody in this thread was talking about doing bbfs, this thread is talking more about oral I think (kissing, daty, bbbj)

You don't know Hattrick eh?
He plays 100% safe. Condom bjs/sex, always. And doesn't kiss, daty, etc. All about the lips, ones below. And exactly what he said,living proof.

 

[Caramel]

Here come all the safe sex bashers! Welcome :deadhorse::cheer2:

 

[Poseidon]

Erica,

Great response, you took the words out of my mouth. You and I think alike !:thumb:

 

[johnsmit]

I would like to know .. how many people making comments on this thread.... have never seen an SP.....
For those that this applies to go some where else.. because you are just shit disterbers.. and showing your inferiority

The reality is sex is not safe even if you are seei g only one partner... if people are nkt honest about .. what they have..... multiable partners raise the risk....
That why we say it about your risk tolerance level..... some dont even condider the risks...others.over dramatise them....We all have a resposability.. to ..try to minamize the risk to our selves .. and others.When some one does not care ,that is when everyone is in danger.. Not Just SP's and clients.. but everyone... Because.. most SP's and clinets.. allso .play in the everyday .. world.. of night clubs... .dates sites... and e looking for the good lay

or they have boy friends and SO.....There is a whole other world out there .. that does no know how to play safe..

 

[Health Nurse]

Great questions and discussion.

I am really busy working in the clinic today so I won’t be able to get to the questions but I can answer them early next week.

Sorry about that.

Have a good long weekend.

HN
www.smartsexresource.com