Just Missing the Old Days

[masterpoonhunter]

Any actual Intel on state of SW action in Vancouver(who,what,when, why not)? Or just pining for the old days?

I don't frequent DETS or therabouts but I regularly drive from Arbutus area to East Van via Kingsway in that 9-1130pm time slot (part of a work route). Years back from about Fraser through to Nanaimo fair bit of action, some really tasty.
I do not recall seeing anyone along there since maybe November?

 

[thevalleydude]

I don't frequent DETS or therabouts but I regularly drive from Arbutus area to East Van via Kingsway in that 9-1130pm time slot (part of a work route). Years back from about Fraser through to Nanaimo fair bit of action, some really tasty.
I do not recall seeing anyone along there since maybe November?

While I agree that the selection was far better 25 years ago it was difficult to find services like I do now. Westwoody was right about the lack of GFE and kissing back in those days..it was really difficult to find out what you were going to get and it was more often a disappointment than a pleasure. I did meet some really great women with some very memorable encounters during that time however that I still treasure in my memories but it was a lot of trial and error..

Also while it might have been great for us Im certain that residents of the West End, the east end around Victoria Drive, along Kingsway, Quebec Street, and Mt Pleasant along East Broadway were not in mutual agreement.

 

[greythings20]

If that were true, only one generation would have the good old days-not every generation. We all have them, based on our favorite time being alive-usually in our prime when responsibilities were lower and cash wasn't spoken for at the same rate it is later on in life. Again-no argument per se-if you're talking about this game-maybe you're right-i wouldn't know. I do remember seeing a lot of gorgeous women in Winnipeg exchange district back when i was a teen and cruising on the weekends-serious 9's and 10's that i don't see in ads now. Still, i can't imagine answering newspaper ads/yellow pages ads, soliciting on the street etc. Appreciate your perspective though.

I'm in my early 30s now, but I've been pooning in the same single city (Vancouver) since I was 17. (No, really!)

I was single then, and I'm still single now. I'm more "in my prime" than ever—fitter, healthier, better fashion sense, more charismatic, got LASIK even. And I have far more disposable income now, and far more flexibility for how I spend my time (working "from home" with flexible hours sure beats commuting an hour each way to university every day!)

But still, I concur with the other whiners in this thread: I miss the scene from 10 years ago!

Not only were there many sessions I could afford back then as a jobless 22-year-old, that I can't now afford the exact equivalent of as a well-paid 33-year-old; there are also many types of services that have just ceased to be offered altogether. There are many "demographics" (combination of ethnicity + age-bracket + target-market) that used to be common to find in the pooning scene here, but simply aren't any more. (Remember Maggie's? AFAIK there are no ladies like that, offering that kind of service, in Vancouver today!) And there are many services and kinks that used to be considered table-stakes for a session—things that SPs clearly enjoyed doing, and often initiated on their own!—that are now upcharged for or refused altogether, with the newer generation of SPs disturbed that you would even ask.

I think, to understand the rise of decadence within a culture, you really have to step outside that culture and see the world, visiting places decadence hasn't reached yet. In other countries, there are still places where the SPs offer today, the services and rates you could find in Canada 10, 30, or 50 years ago; or even (much) better. And they're far more authentically enthusiastic about doing so, too!

Why? Very likely because, in the country these ladies live in, what they're charging for a session will actually "pay their rent and leave them spending money left over" — rather than leaving them struggling and hussling. Not because they're charging a lot, but because their month's rent isn't 1000x the cost of a sandwich, but more like 60x the cost. Imagine!

 

[80watts]

There's also a major disconnect between the newer and older generations. The word unhinged or dysfunctional has never been used so frequently. Wokeism has taken a new meaning replacing the old term of political correctness.

Here are some real-world examples that illustrate the shift in societal dynamics over the past decade and a half:

1. Economic Pressures and Corporate Exploitation

Take Wendy's Restaurants in the USA testing the market with a surge in menu prices during peak hours. It's greedflation at it's finest. and reflects a worrying trend in business ethics. Fifteen years ago, such blatant exploitation of consumer demand wasn't as prevalent. Additionally, the phenomenon of greedflation and shrink inflation, where corporations inflate prices while reducing product sizes, contributes to the feeling of being unfairly gouged by corporate entities. The masses especially amongst the privileged and ultra-rich just ignore and move-on.

2. Political Influence and Legal Challenges

What about the recent fundraising campaign to cover Trump's massive $355 million fine? It's perplexing to see even his billionaire status and impoverished supporters contributing. This is just one of many examples which underscores the troubling mindset prevalent today.

3. Challenges with Modern Generations:

Contrary to the assertion that every generation has issues with the previous ones, contemporary conflicts between generations, such as between Gen Y and Gen Z, exhibit unique characteristics. Gen Z's emphasis on individualism to the extent of disregarding moral or ethical considerations is a departure from previous generational conflicts.

The entitlement and pickiness observed in newer generations are evidenced by trends in job placements, where demands for specific perks and accommodations surpass what previous generations sought. Examples include preferences for remote work, flexible hours, and personalized benefits packages.

4. Value of Elderly Insights and Disparity between Rich and Poor:

"Mature" folks or elders often have a unique perspective shaped by decades of experience. Dismissing their observations as mere nostalgia or psychological bias overlooks the valuable insights we bring to the table, especially regarding the growing gap between the rich and poor.

A few decades ago there was a more discernible middle class, but now, the disparity is stark, and only those who are struggling on a pension and not privileged truly understand the magnitude of this issue.

From where I stand, it's alarming how easily the younger generations are swayed by platforms like TikTok and YouTube. Worst of all, they deny they're being influenced.

It's very unsettling to witness how the privileged and wealthy retirees often have their views tainted or constrained. This is just one example of the pervasive influence of social media and wealth on people's perspectives, but there are countless other instances of societal distortion and manipulation that weren't as prevalent in the past

So yeah, I agree with the OP where things were much better many years ago even in the world of pooning. And arguably, humanity hasn't experienced such dysfunction in centuries.

Just a few comments on your points, which are very good points.

1. It hard for a "franchise" to get stable employees on a stable schedule. Since Covid, some shops have not increased hours beyond the early evening hours ( 7 pm or 8 pm), then was before Covid. Franchises don't pay employee benefits. Medium to Large Companies don't have pension plans, they will match your RSP donations, and they opt out of health care and dental plans.

2. Every body is suing every body, and only the lawyers get rich out of it, and that is if the loser will pay out. People get into politics because of the vast amount of waste and free money that can be made while people aren't watching. If you can say "insider trading" all politicians are doing it and taken advantage of privileged information.

3. The challenge isn't that they won't work, is just that hard work effort has been beaten out of them thru woke politics and teachers saying "why would you work in this situation". The pickiness comes from schooling and parents that have encountered those situations, so they are going in with a more leveled idea of what they want in a job (which I think is good for them). Got to remember what the elder people thought of you when you were in your 20s. Whereas their parents took whatever was available to put food on the table. Young adults coming out of the educational system rarely have the chance to do hands on work due to the exorbitant cost of shop equipment/tools/materials, so your regular high school would have minimum shop classes compared to 90s or earlier. Even in the 80;s the schools were pushing in the computer direction and away from general trades like mechanic, plumber, electician, etc. Also by the 90s company towns were shutting down and the school system in those town, shut down the training programs for those specific companies.
4. If you got money, who fucken cares what other people think, do as you want. I would estimate that over 90-97% of Canadians depend on a monthy paycheck to make ends meet, and about 40% are actually putting money away for the future that they will be secure in their retirement. That dosen't take into account the future taxes, which will decimate your withdrawal from your RSPs.
I think I was in high school english class. where the teacher covered propaganda issues, especially WW2 and Hitler's rise to power. In social studies the teacher got the newspaper out and read an article and asked '"what does this mean"? Maybe people are wrapped up in their devices, I'm guilty of that too, but its only when I'm waiting for someone. A good source of information always covers both side of the issues or even the other sides of the same issues.

Everything is not black and white, its shades of grey at various levels of consciousness. It a BRAVE NEW WORLD!!!

 

[angry anderson]

(Remember Maggie's? AFAIK there are no ladies like that, offering that kind of service, in Vancouver today!) And there are many services and kinks that used to be considered table-stakes for a session—things that SPs clearly enjoyed doing, and often initiated on their own!—

Amen.

 

[westwoody]

Maybe in the good old days Vancouver was more affordable to live in too.

It definitely was.
I could never afford the quality of life I have in Winnipeg if I was still in Vancouver.
Long ago there was a great thread about the Vancouver of the 1960s through 1990. So totally different from now.

 

[white Ninja]

Omg another one of these posts ?

So you’re going on about the days when you would pick ladies up off of E Hastings for $40 ?
And get a room for an extra $20 of you wanted to splurge ?
Plus wet wipes instead of showers ?
Sorry but that just sounds nasty .

My “ good old days “ were the days before Covid before prices increased across the board but you don’t hear me going on and on about it .

It’s over , let it go & move on .

 

[Wakeup]

Maybe i am dating myself but 20. Worked but a bit crude alright