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Its time for Canada to bring back the death penalty.

Devo

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Its time for Canada to bring back the death penalty in special circumstances. If you are familiar with the Tori Stafford trial I don't know how you could possibly disagree. Actually there are probably a few silver ponytails out there who think that the likes of Paul Bernardo can be rehabilitated if we coddle them the right way.

Its time to do the right thing Mr Harper. The majority of Canadians will support the legislation.


http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...ase-shows-why-canada-needs-the-death-penalty/

The above link is to the National Post website. (Pretty sure your PC won't explode if you click on it)
 
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Right on I,m all for it , and would like to see it taken even to a higher level ,
Full on public executions that you pay to go and see.
Rogers Arena , sold out to see Bernardo get hot capped !!!!
I would pay Canuck prices for that .
 
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In this age of DNA testing, it severely lessens the argument that an innocent person might get executed. I also think we need to structure the appeals process in a way that 1) the accused gets every chance to appeal and present new evidence and 2) it doesn't drag on for 2 or 3 decades like often happens in the United States, costing way more money than locking them up for the rest of their natural life.

And agreed, cases like the Tori Stafford case are the perfect argument FOR the death penalty.
 

Elmore

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Here we go again.
I am not sure what is worse...to revive one of the 42 threads on this same topic that we thought was dead, or to start a new one.
 
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Dgodus

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Simply another thread with a very polarizing topic, by someone who would like to see some irrational debate so he can call out people with "why you picking a fight?", "cant we be civil", "stop following me around"

Nothing to see here, carry on.
 

mercyshooter

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Here we go again.
I am not sure what is worse...to revive one of the 42 threads on this same topic that we thought were dead, or to start a new one.
This is what multiculturalism means! In some culture, when you seriously and critically analyze everything, death penalty is justifiable!
 

myselftheother

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This is what multiculturalism means! In some culture, when you seriously and critically analyze everything, death penalty is justifiable!
Hmm, that's not the definition I have in my dictionary....I don't understand what you're trying to say; that in some cultures you are executed for seriously and critically analyzing everything and that's justifiable? What the hell are you saying? This is just gibberish.

As for Devo....really? We don't need a death penalty in Canada. We just need gulags on Baffin Island...ok, seriously, we don't need to lower ourselves to a baser society like Texas, or other countries or states that have it. We, as a society must raise ourselves higher on a morality that most righties think they alone inhabit, to not kill those that murder, rather spend the rest of their miserable lives on bare basics, alone, forever until natural death takes them.

Instead of depriving them of life, which is a release from responsibility rather than facing decades of punishment, interment and isolation. I support complete removal from any societal connections, family, etc...but the death penalty is really just for the public, not the family of the victim.

If they have to live the rest of their lives robbed of a loved one, then the murderers are removed from life's freedoms and pleasures....Blue skies, tasty food, news of the world, tv, radio, internet, family, friends, children, lovers....4 walls, cot, blanket, toilet and sink. No paper, pen, books, pictures, colour, smell of flowers, change of season...you get my drift, a living death until death natural releases them. Pickton, and the like tossed down a deep hole as described, toss away the key. Death penalty, too quick and easy a sentence. How about the next 30-40 years in isolation, no windows, total climate control....always the same 3 meals, never ever changing, nothing until the end. Makes purgatory sound like a holiday in the sun.

No....death penalty is too easy.
 

myselftheother

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Simply another thread with a very polarizing topic, by someone who would like to see some irrational debate so he can call out people with "why you picking a fight?", "cant we be civil", "stop following me around"

Nothing to see here, carry on.
And yes, there is this approach too....and yes, this is what it is, as described by the big Dgodus...
 

bcneil

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Here we go again.
I am not sure what is worse...to revive one of the 42 threads on this same topic that we thought was dead, or to start a new one.
Its getting kind of predictable with him, isn't it.
 

badbadboy

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. The majority of Canadians will support the legislation.
Since when? Proof?

You are really on roll these days with your inflammatory threads.

Is pooning not working out so well for you?
 

myselftheother

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All good stuff here, but to get back on track & find the root of the issue raised by the OP, why is imported cheese so damned expensive? I feel that we need to resolve this deeper issue before coming back to the less important side issues above.
You're absolutley right...imported cheese is really expensive, brie and limburger....hell, all those swiss cheeses, having to pay extra for those holes.
 

Ned Flanders

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The Stafford case is simply horrific, but once you get past the emotional reaction, it does not improve the pro death penalty argument. As others have pointed out, this is not a new topic.
 

Miss*Bijou

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In this age of DNA testing, it severely lessens the argument that an innocent person might get executed.


Tell that to the hundreds of innocent men detained for being alleged terrorists. No DNA evidence to incriminate or exonerate them. Under harsh detention conditions that included physical and psychological torture, some of them even confessed to doing all kinds of things as well as various crimes that were easily proven to have been impossible. DNA isn't the be-all-end-all to securing all cases.


Death penalty is a regression in the evolution of our civility, humanity and our moral standing. Taking someone's life makes you no better than them; the act is the same, only the motives are different. Morally speaking, revenge isn't all that far from pure malice. It debases us all, it lets us pretend that we can take a life and get a free pass and not be morally responsible or accountable because we've decided they deserve it and it's our right to be morally lazy and satisfy our desire for revenge. It makes our claims that we're above all other animals even more of a farce because despite being equipped with the capacity to reason, to presumably behave based on an evolved system of morals, we choose not to use it and act on our deep urge to punish and we give in to our urge to feel good about it too. And as a result, we arbitrarily decide that our complex moral system doesn't apply to us when it makes us feel good. Sorry, as much as I can admit I could probably feel that way in some cases too, I'm still very much able to recognize that it would come at a cost to my own moral integrity and frankly I put more value on keeping my moral integrity as intact as possible than on some misguided desire for cheap revenge.


It is SUCH a step backwards, it's not only disturbing it's fucking sad that this would even be considered as a reasonable option in 2012. What the hell is the matter with this country? Why don't we just skip all of this, get it over with and go straight back to the Dark Ages already? That's where this is headed, so let's just skip all of the crap and just go right back to our caves... :rolleyes:


Or here's thought. Why don't all you people who want to follow our neighbors example and regress back to biblical times just go and join in their fun and leave what's left of our progressive society here in Canada for those of us who are quite capable of functioning in a society that acknowledges the whole range of shades of grey in between the black and the white extremes and who value a moderate, reasoned approach to dealing with the complexities of life and aren't limited to a reactionary way to deal with the world that's determined by the inability to go beyond allowing our basic, simple emotional impulses to cloud our judgement and determine our actions,


Sorry, I find it so depressing that the insanity is spreading in this country and it's a really ugly picture.


This is Canada. We move forward, not backwards, ok? If you really must move backwards, maybe you should move to Texas where your vision will be embraced. But we'd like to keep whatever dwindling sanity we're holding on to here in Canada. We've got nowhere else to go, really. But you do, so go shoot some Mexican "aliens" in Texas and leave us to our tolerant and peaceful Canada. Oh, and please take The entire Harper Government™ with you too, we won't have any use for them here. They can get ready for Armageddon and teach creationism down there. I'm sure they'll also be thrilled about their abstinence-only sex ed and that there will no longer be abortion providers in Texas after Gov. Rick Perry's decision to implement a new law that excludes Planned Parenthood from the state's Medicaid Women's Health Program. (but since the state broke federal Medicaid rules by discriminating against qualified family planning providers, they will be losing the entire program, which provides cancer screenings, contraceptives and basic health care to 130,000 low-income women each year. But that's a small detail, I'm sure.)


lol thank you.
 
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westcoast555

Its time for Canada to bring back the death penalty in special circumstances. If you are familiar with the Tori Stafford trial I don't know how you could possibly disagree. Actually there are probably a few silver ponytails out there who think that the likes of Paul Bernardo can be rehabilitated if we coddle them the right way.

Its time to do the right thing Mr Harper. The majority of Canadians will support the legislation.


http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...ase-shows-why-canada-needs-the-death-penalty/

The above link is to the National Post website. (Pretty sure your PC won't explode if you click on it)
Here's the thing about the death penalty.. I agree that morally you can look at a person who's done something so awful they deserve to forfeit their life.. they deserve to die for what they've done. But... and this is the big 'but'.. the state is not competent enough to hold the power of life and death over a person. In practice the death penalty is never imposed evenly, fairly or without the risk of putting an innocent person to death or someone who has extenuating circumstances such as mental illness, etc.

I consider myself a conservative person and as such I don't trust the government much. Who do YOU trust with being able to order the life and death of a person? I'm not saying I wouldn't kill somebody who hurt a loved one.. Who knows.. I might drag them out into the forest and tie them to a tree and slit their throat myself... but I DON'T trust the government, the "justice" system with the power to do that.

Rotting in prison should suffice. I don't believe any poll that says the majority of the population supports capital punishment in Canada either.
 

wilde

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Two wrongs don't make a right. The death penalty is not an effective deterrent as some of you might think it is, besides it makes rehabilitation a bit difficult, no?;)
 

Miss*Bijou

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You're absolutley right...imported cheese is really expensive, brie and limburger....hell, all those swiss cheeses, having to pay extra for those holes.

Blue cheese? Whoever thought of selling their old, moldy cheese was an absolute genius.:pound:


Hm. All this cheese talk is making me crave cheese fondue. Yum. Oh, or raclette, OMG I haven't had raclette in sooo long. Stinky but so good. I need to go eat now, this just made me really hungry. lol
 
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