Issue with Indian pooners?

[pdxskier4]

Recently saw a couple of SP ads on LL that politely but clearly indicated "no Indian customers." I don't want to diss any nationality or anything, but I am just curious...what is it about Indian bros that SPs don't like? I am not looking for idle speculation from random ppl... hoping that one or more SPs can weigh in?

 

[enzolor]

The EI community is pretty tight where there is probably only 3 degrees of separation. They don't want to take the chance of running into someone they know or are related to...

 

[TOAO]

The EI community is pretty tight where there is probably only 3 degrees of separation. They don't want to take the chance of running into someone they know or are related to...

I think the OP is asking about "issues" about Indian pooners... not about Indian providers.

 

[poopquiz]

Yeah I see it a lot from providers, and am very curious myself if anyone can chime in (being of brown skin myself!). We must have a rep for not being good clients or something. Often it’s mixed in with “no black or Indian men” too. ??‍♂

 

[take8easy]

EI brown guy here. Many SP's would vouch for that, I am sure.

Never had an issue here.

It's not the race itself, it is the culture. Sadly, many of 'my people' treat women as second class citizen.

Bargaining is part of our culture and many of 'my people' try to do that with SP's as well.

Hygiene: We are having a rainy November, aren't we?

 

[Van Chambers]

EI brown guy here. Many SP's would vouch for that, I am sure.

Never had an issue here.

It's not the race itself, it is the culture. Sadly, many of 'my people' treat women as second class citizen.

Bargaining is part of our culture and many of 'my people' try to do that with SP's as well. So why haggle?

Hygiene: We are having a rainy November, aren't we?

I was typing something up similar to your as you posted.
And November is rainy.. Lather up!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Couldntthinkofaname]

Wont even sugarcoat it but i would say 90% of "them" always haggle pricing. Not just in this industry but literally in every aspect in life. Ive seen and experienced it. Racist? I wouldnt think so but yeah. Ive noticed more and more providers saying no to black or ei, luckily im neither. Just my thoughts

 

[pootietangg]

I actually asked an SP about this some time ago – she mentioned casually that being of brown skin herself, EI clients tended to get overly attached to her because of the rarity of finding someone of her skin tone in the industry; apparently, such infatuation led to creepy behaviour in the past.

 

[Sexy007]

I was just answering the posters questions with perhaps why some women would say no EI clients- I personally would never judge anybody / paint a brush against any culture based on a previous experience with somebody totally different who happens to be born with the same ethnicity or culture.
Just was giving a few examples as that’s what I have experienced in this industry in trying to help out with the posters question

I would like to say that there are cultures, like Persian, Labanese, Egyptians and few others who like EI and have brown skin and their culture is very different ...just for FYI.

 

[laddi_daddi]

I am sure the data provided by some fellow pooners is 'Accurate' and I am glad people are so knowledgeable these days, they don't carry any bias.
90% of EI people haggle about the money and they can't treat companions with kindness, respect or professionalism.
10% of them are really civilized though because they follow the one and only 'kind, professional and respectful' race out there.

 

[VinVan]

It's cultural, not racial.

A lot of EI folks are just conditioned to bargain (as in many Middle Eastern cultures).

I know an online retailer and when he gets a call with a certain accent he knows it's going to be one of the following:

1. You should give me a discount, I'll send you more business.
2. Do you have a discount for someone over 50?
3. I'm going to be a very good long-term customer, what kind of deal can you give me?

Almost without fail, he gets this with certain accents. Anecdotal? yes. Double blind study in Psychology Today? Nope. But for the purposes of this thread, I would say it provides some insight. And if you were a provider would you want to deal with an accent that routinely grinds you - or with others who are happy to pay your price?

BTW I am not white and have experienced my fair share of racism.

 

[lukom]

I think it has to do with certain cultural behaviors that are not part of our social norms here. It's very common among Iranians as well, and I'm half Iranian. The whole mercantile culture of bargaining, overpromising, and under delivering, both in work ethic and as clients. Pushing boundaries. It's another version of Karen culture if you will.

An SP used to decline South Asians as a whole because of the fact that she worked with many and feared she would run into old colleagues or acquaintances/relatives of those colleagues. Other SPs who don't see east Indians may also refuse for similar reasons.

 

[Soupnazi]

Like it was stated already. Some, have a very poor opinion of women. Others haggle. Nothing racist just undesirable traits that some don't like/want to deal with. Back in the day this girl I know would deliberately walk on front of older ei men. Many times they would either cross to the other side or flat out turn around.

 

[Gerald9015]

SPs are also humans, they have rights to choose what kinds of clients they see. Same for us, pooners, we have also preferences on what kind of Sps are we seeing. If an sp does not want to see a specific race, it's more about preference than racism. Let's respect sp choices and move on, there are plenty of fish out there.

 

[lukom]

Back in the day this girl I know would deliberately walk on front of older ei men. Many times they would either cross to the other side or flat out turn around.

That's really not that different from any other ethnic group. I was at outdoor patio restaurant and there was a woman nursing her baby outside. I asked to be seated in a position so that her back would face me out of respect. These two older white men came out and were seated also, and they were looking over at the pregnant woman, and then asked to be seated at another table (which gave them a better view of the breastfeeding action) and they kept glancing over at her. I found them creepy and the woman feeding her child did too, and she got up. I finished off my drink and left, and when I went in through the interior of the restaurant I noticed the woman had been seated in a booth with her baby.

 

[lukom]

It seems more like a stereotype for brown people. I'm not even Indian but I'm refused to book in many places just because I'm brown. That's why now I stick to a couple handlers that I contact regularly.

I don't really have any problem as long as the ad says no browns. The problem is many of the ads don't mention it and after I text they ask my ethnicity and I say brown and then no reply.

If someone is brown it doesn't mean he's Indian. About showers, I shower twice before the deed: at home and at the escort's place. Sometimes the girl doesn't want to shower lol. And sometimes I pay extra rather than haggling.

I would introduce myself differently and say, "I see your ad says no East Indians, but just want to clear things up that I am not Indian I'm *ancestry here*" and leave it at that. Cause I get the same thing with the no middle Easterners too, but when I explain I'm half Iranian and have minimal ties to the culture theyre usually cool.

 

[lukom]

I tend to avoid ads with no east indians because ymmv kicks in anyway ... they often give half assed service even after confirming ethnicity. Better to spend money on providers that have no issue

Fair enough. Obviously use your best judgement in those cases.

 

[Asian Fever]

While it's true that there are often people asking for ridiculous discounts, we've had other ethnicities do the same. Our position is that singling out an entire ethnicity of people is disgusting. The way we handle it, is if you try to bargain with the girl or are rude or inappropriate in any way, we just blacklist that person for life. Done. If someone asks for something dumb over text, we just say no. It's not that hard. To ban a behavior is totally fine, but to say I don't serve a group of people based on their skin color or nationality is in my opinion wrong, and we just wont do that.

Actually there are some Indian clients that are quite well off and very good. They tip the girls really well. A lot of what you find out there is stereotypes and misconceptions... just like how every black guy doesn't have an anaconda size dick. If it's too big, the girls will just politely let the guy know and offer him a BJ. There are many ways to handle situations, but painting broad strokes with one brush shouldn't be one of them in the 21st century.

That's our opinion anyway. If you're a nice guy and treat the girls with respect, you're always welcome here.

 

[laddi_daddi]

Providers not wanting to see an ethnic group is their choice but is debatable especially when we talk about accepting sex work as a legit profession but this is not the topic here.

How certain stereotypes are being quoted here as facts is just hilarious but frustrating at the same time. Like 90 % Indian people haggle!

I work in a field with almost negligible Indian clients and my clientele is mostly Caucasian people. They ask for discounts all the time, they complain about the prices, and sometimes they even refuse to pay after the job has been completed. Some pay from a friend's credit card and then the friend disputes the transaction later on. To counteract this we decline to accept any card transaction without the PIN anymore, otherwise the credit card companies refund the money to the complaining party.

Should we generalize this and say that all Caucasian people are cheats and crooks? Nah, I guess generalizations are valid only for certain race groups and not others.

 

[laddi_daddi]

While it's true that there are often people asking for ridiculous discounts, we've had other ethnicities do the same. Our position is that singling out an entire ethnicity of people is disgusting. The way we handle it, is if you try to bargain with the girl or are rude or inappropriate in any way, we just blacklist that person for life. Done. If someone asks for something dumb over text, we just say no. It's not that hard. To ban a behavior is totally fine, but to say I don't serve a group of people based on their skin color or nationality is in my opinion wrong, and we just wont do that.

Actually there are some Indian clients that are quite well off and very good. They tip the girls really well. A lot of what you find out there is stereotypes and misconceptions... just like how every black guy doesn't have an anaconda size dick. If it's too big, the girls will just politely let the guy know and offer him a BJ. There are many ways to handle situations, but painting broad strokes with one brush shouldn't be one of them in the 21st century.

That's our opinion anyway. If you're a nice guy and treat the girls with respect, you're always welcome here.

Thanks for saying this