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Is it OK for a job interviewer to ask for your Facebook login?

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Hmmm... let me think about tha-NO!

Ask them for the minutes to their board meetings in response. Or even better, the Facebook User/Pass for their board members and Senior Managers as well as your Manager / Supervisor.

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dabears

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What you do in your private life should stay in your private life, unless they are willing to put you on their payroll 24/7
 
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I google every application in the stack of resumes we are given. I can weed a stack of 300 easily down to 10 or 15 that I'm willing to interview for the single position we have available.
Seriously? What if the Applicant has a reasonably common name? How do you know you are drawing conclusions on the right person? Not an issue for me, personally... I have a rare name. But how do you deal with Applicants like John Smith or Jenny Wong? What if the person is relatively web-dead, ie they have very little / no information available on the web?

Or do they just go into the "Interview" pile?

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Dgodus

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As the mismatch between the number of available jobs and the excessive surplus of applicants intensifies - - - an applicant that hopes to be employed is going to find that their prospective employer leaves them no privacy.

The company that provides the camp personnel for the Oil Sands - Cooks, housekeeping, etc. - does drug testing and social media monitoring. Don't like it? Apply elsewhere. They know that they can easily find people qualified for the work.

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Camp staff at the pot ash mines in SK weren't even allowed to leave the premises of the camp site during their rotation as a few things weren't being done up to snuff. Sure they all bitched and moaned, but none of them quit over it, they just did their 21 days without ever leaving the camp *shudders*

Even for tradesmen the drug testing has gone from simple piss test to hair folicle (spl?) testing for a new NFLD job site as they were finding it too easy to circumvent piss testing, when given advance warning, and were still ending up with users at their camps (even at work wtf?!). People complain but nobody quits and the only ones that wont go work in those places are the ones who wouldn't pass the tests anyways.

I am curious as to what you do with someone who has little to no web presence though. Could be a good or a bad thing dependant on the field.
 

blackcad

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If their social media match is facebook - - - facebook kindly provides the info on schools, birthdate, home town

So, if "Jenny" birthdate match, school match - is posting pictures of her boyfriend overturning police cars - - - I remove any staples or paperclips from her resume and it goes into the shredder. Easy Peasy.

I also have links to every school's alumni pages. If "Jenny" says she went to UBC, she had better show up on the alumni page.

The other nasty thing I do is phone every single reference. If "Jenny" says "Einstein" knows her - he better have at least heard of her.

The other thing that we don't do is hire anti-social hermits that are overly secretive about any and all information.
If there is absolutely nothing on a person when I google them and check the alumni sites - - - I remove any staples or paperclips and put the resume in the shredder. Easy Peasy.
Curious alinburnaby......you may not want to answer this, and I don't want to de-rail the thread.......but since you are involved in the interview and hiring process.......What would you do if you found through social media that the person is an active or retired sp.....or a pooner? Would they go in the shredder?

I'm not judging your response..good or bad...it's just a bit of a conundrum....to be a pooner...and then have to decide whether to eliminate someone from a career opportunity because they participate in an industry that you are also part of.
Hmmmm....
 

tokugawa

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The other thing that we don't do is hire anti-social hermits that are overly secretive about any and all information.
If there is absolutely nothing on a person when I google them and check the alumni sites - - - I remove any staples or paperclips and put the resume in the shredder. Easy Peasy.
So if someone were to not participate in social media sites like Facebook and Twitter and have not been active in their university alumni association, you would immediately throw their resume into the shredder? Just curious?
 

twoblues

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As the mismatch between the number of available jobs and the excessive surplus of applicants intensifies - - - an applicant that hopes to be employed is going to find that their prospective employer leaves them no privacy.

The company that provides the camp personnel for the Oil Sands - Cooks, housekeeping, etc. - does drug testing and social media monitoring. Don't like it? Apply elsewhere. They know that they can easily find people qualified for the work.

That sort of policy hasn't moved down to "office drone" jobs - but it will.

When I'm one of the people on the interview committee (2 senior people, rotated monthly so that you do it twice a year), I google every application in the stack of resumes we are given. I can weed a stack of 300 easily down to 10 or 15 that I'm willing to interview for the single position we have available.
Pretty much voiced my opinion. I Google the crap out of potential employees. Recently, we hired someone who won a Chili competition. That was enough to get on the interview pile :p

With so many similar applicants for some positions, it can be really arbitrary how I choose interviewees. I can also be harsher than necessary because I need to cull the pile.
 

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Its one thing to google potential hires (as I've done in the past) and another to ask for their log ins. I would personally ask the interviewer if they can give me the password to their email address, mail box keys and house keys if they were to ask for my password for anything.
 

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My response to this is......why in the wide world of sports would you want to BE on facebook....it is a total fucking waste of time....friend me.....friend me ....friend me.....join farmville.....join zoosk etc etc as well as all the blathering absolutely useless updates that people post about their completely inane lives.

I was on facebook for a very brief period...about maybe 6 months and I got sick of it fast.....facebook is nothing but a waste of time and a way for facebook zombies to waste their time whilst annoying other and all the while they are making zuckerberg disgustingly rich....disgustingly rich from something that does not even manufacture something as simple as a spoon.....yet the masses are being spoon fed by facebook.

End of rant.

SR
 

InTheBum

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If their social media match is facebook - - - facebook kindly provides the info on schools, birthdate, home town

So, if "Jenny" birthdate match, school match - is posting pictures of her boyfriend overturning police cars - - - I remove any staples or paperclips from her resume and it goes into the shredder. Easy Peasy.

I also have links to every school's alumni pages. If "Jenny" says she went to UBC, she had better show up on the alumni page.

The other nasty thing I do is phone every single reference. If "Jenny" says "Einstein" knows her - he better have at least heard of her.

The other thing that we don't do is hire anti-social hermits that are overly secretive about any and all information.
If there is absolutely nothing on a person when I google them and check the alumni sites - - - I remove any staples or paperclips and put the resume in the shredder. Easy Peasy.
Employers like yourself...I have no problem walking out on...

If I sense attitude during an interview, I walk...or if they seem stressed or anxiety filled...see ya...millions of other jobs...no biggie...
 

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In addition, drug testing in Canada for employees IS ILLEGAL. You can do pre-employment tests for safety sensitive positions only.
When I applied for my present position, I told my interviewer what they would need to pay me to have me come work for them.
He asked me if I was on drugs.

Because it was a sensitive position, I took the drug test, and had to get clearance with the US State Department so I could go anywhere around the world on a moment's notice. They also wanted to know if I had ever gone camping in any exotic locations in certain parts of the world, and a list of EVERY country I had ever visited in my life.

So yeah, some jobs can get quite intrusive, but the payoff makes it worth it.
 

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Your personal life? Your employer probably has to know your marital status, name of "spouse", kids, address and on it goes. Why? because he has to report to Revenue Canada who needs to know too. Even smoking is an issue. And so if you do dumb things and post them expect to be noted for it. Yes and if you think you can be too "free" there are such things as moral turpitude:

Crimes Involving Moral Turpitude The term “crimes involving moral turpitude” (CIMTs) refers to a large category of offences which are considered to be contrary to community standards or community morals. Though there is no definitive list of CIMTs, decades of immigration cases have led to the evolution of a non-exhaustive list of crimes which are always considered CIMTs. Some examples are fraud, arson, blackmail, burglary, embezzlement, theft, counterfeiting, perjury, kidnapping, manslaughter, murder, prostitution, and rape. Simple assault or assault with a weapon are not CIMTs. However, assault with intent to kill, rape, commit a robbery, or cause serious bodily harm is a CIMT as is assault with a dangerous weapon.

So yes, a history of prostitution would definitely put a person off limits in many companies. And participating with a prostitute could render the same result. It doesn't have to be a criminal offence, companies have the right to fire employees who embarass them with a moral issue. Like who wants a former prostitute or pimp as a boss? Would you trust them with the company funds?
Well, I do know a few very trustful SP's, who I respect, but the is not the overall public view.
 

bcneil

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Pretty simple, make a fake facebook account. Filled with fake academic achievements, fake charities you are an active member of.
Fake community awards you have won. Make it easy to find. Every few days updates the status......
"In the bum loves his family, he is so happy to be loved" "rancid crabtree....is so proud of his scout pack winning the cab car rally...way to go guys!"

Then if you must have another facebook account with a different name.
 
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pretty simple, make a fake facebook account. Filled with fake academic achievements, fake charities you are an active member of.
Fake community awards you have won. Make it easy to find. Every few days updates the status......
"in the bum loves his family, he is so happy to be loved" "rancid crabtree....is so proud of his scout pack winning the cab car rally...way to go guys!"

then if you must have another facebook account with a different name.
brilliance!

Nag75
 

uncleg

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I'd say they shouldn't have a legal right to ask for it, it's a social site and I think you have to draw the line somewhere. A no may mean you're out of the running, but then do you really want to work for an employer that is that intrusive ? Best bet, protect yourself as best you can or better yet don't post anything you can't live with or explain if you have to.

 

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