Is it just me or are some SPs grossly over priced?

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HeMadeMeDoIt

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QWERTY: How do you figure its shallow to have a woman's looks a main part of judging her when she is a prostitute? Last I checked we are all in this because we live having sex with good looking women no strings attached; correct me if I'm wrong pls.

LonelyGhost I agree with you 100%! More often that not you never get what you pay for and price is not indicative of the level of experience you will have.

Dirk_DOg I respectfuly disagree with you; I have never met anyone I would pay $500 to fuck for an hour.

Ultimately if a hooker feels she's worth $X then its up to us to determine if she is or not and make a decision accordingly on whether we are willing to see her and pay that amount or not. I do however see waves of price increases that are completely unjustified and only happen because so and so also raised her price and the "market can bear it" justification.
 

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HeMadeMeDoIt said:


Dirk_DOg I respectfuly disagree with you; I have never met anyone I would pay $500 to fuck for an hour.

guess that would mean he's different than you wouldn't it..go figure..everyone is different and some have differing opinions on this subject..as has already been said..it's all choice and you are the one making it..to book or not to book..that is the question..all up to you ;)
 
;) qwerty

and verb, no, he was calling me a flaming homo, and also a retarded tool. While I have been known to do things that are kind of 'retarted', it was never in a toolish way. Dorky maybe, but not toolish. bahaha
 

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Life's all subjective as to what we each consider a good price and what we prefer. A good atmosphere and good service are as important as looks in my book. I don't care how hot a guy is, if he is snobby, arrogant, rude or slovenly his looks would go down for me and an average Joe who is sweet, courteous and kind would get a higher score in the looks department.

I think that's the point, hot people can be total snobs while average people are more accepting and a lot of men like that. It's just like older guys prefering someone at least in their 30's, although presumably all guys think hot 18 year olds are hot, but at the same time they wouldn't feel right/good having sex with someone so young. I hear it all the time.

Lesson learned ~if it feels good, do it!

Some guys just want to fuck a girl who's out of their league and those are the ones that think looks are so important. (When I first got in this business I remember being told that the ugliest guys will want the best looking girls.) I was also told that psychologists are the worst customers to have and that's certainly been true so far, only in that they have the strangest fetishes.

I really think we need a better format so I will start a thread on the format I saw on a Seattle board regarding looks etc, as it's much more specific.
 

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This subject ranks right up there with the pooners alliance to strike against overpriced SPs to drive the rates down. In all honesty I don't think as an SP, I have been more offended by hobbyists and fellow SPs.

As what has been said MANY times before, if you can't afford it look elsewhere, last time I checked jerking off was free.

My rates are many but goes with what is available. Because I offer a $100 special, it does not mean I'm a diseased tramp. I'm particularly conscious of cleanliness and do not partake in risky activities BBBJ, rimming, even though I'm in a risky occupation.

You get what you pay for? Yes to some degree that holds true. But sometimes you get lucky. My case, the reason I have a $100 rate, well it's all economics. Some people only want to spend $100, some people can't wait to blow the minute they walk through my door at the sight of me so staying an hour seems like stealing from clients. Furthermore, I'd rather give people options instead of just the average 1 hr 1/2 hr fs schtick.
 

Creole Lady Marmalade

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As for looks, as stated before in a previous post and (many threads) are subjective.

I'm not your average SP. I'm a visible minority who considers herself anything but ordinary. I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but I fit somebodies definition of beauty.
 

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I'm not making reference to anyone in particular (so please don't be offended). However, I was browsing through some of the advertisement websites such as Eros, CityVibe, Localescorts etc and found that there are quite a few SPs that must be insane. Talk about being totally overpriced... In contrast Ingrid charges $300 as well, but she's fucking hot... I'd gladly pay $400 to have a session with her... But if your a nasty ass chick, why the hell do you charge the same price... what gives???

Pricing of SPs is a mystic art that involves consideration of countless factors, including not only looks, attitude and service but the SPs answers to the following fundamental questions:

1. How much does the SP want to work?
2 What is the maximum price the SP can charge that will allow her to work the number of hours/week or hours/month that she wants to work?
3. What type of client base does the SP want?
4. What mix of "regulars" to "new" clients does the SP want?

An SP who only wants to work a couple hours a month for extra spending money can pretty well charge as much as she wants, so long as she gets her couple of hours of bookings.

Another SP may want to maximize monthly income. She'll try to settle on a rate that will result in the best combination of rate/hours to maximize that income. This may mean a lower rate and say 8 hours of appointments a day, or a higher rate and less hours per day.

Another SP may not like dealing with a constant stream of new clients and may prefer a small stable of regulars. She'll work out a rate that maximizes the number and frequency of regulars, and may likely have a higher rate for new clients. The combination of rate and services for her regulars will try to balance a number of things, including keeping them from seeing other SPs in case they become regulars of the other SPs.

Finding and setting an appropriate hourly rate is likely very difficult for an SP. Too high and she may not get enough business, and it may then be difficult for her to lower her rate. Too low and she'll resent it - especially if she gets too busy and overworked. :mad:

Fortunately, clients have it much easier than SPs. If we don't like the rate we can simply decide not to book. Alternatively, we can whine and bitch on boards like PERB, which pretty well guarantees the SP will never see us - so we no longer have to worry about the rate. We can also elect instead to book another SP or go to an "all-inclusive" place like Serenity, Temptations, Broadway Bodycare, etc.. for about $200 per hour (after coupons) where there is a selection of ladies from which to choose. :)

Hate to burst everyone's bubble but no matter how much we guys may think we're God's gift to women, that does not us the right to demand that an SP see us at a reduced price because that is the price we would like to pay. An Sp has no obligation to negotiate that or any price with us. On the flip side, an SP can't force us to book with her.

Each of us has to decide what is the maximum amount we're prepared to pay. There's many SPs I'd really like to see, and some I saw that I'd like to see again, but may now have a price or may have increased their price to an amount that I'm simply not prepared to pay regardless of whether I can afford it. If a price is beyond that limit I don't book. If I've seen an SP before and she increases her price beyond that limit, I don't call her again. It's really not that complicated from a client's perspective so I don't know what all the fuss is about.

For every SP and every price, somewhere there's a client with a wallet. The relationship of SP and client is perfectly balanced and there is peace in the universe. :D




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qwerty

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HeMadeMeDoIt said:
QWERTY: How do you figure its shallow to have a woman's looks a main part of judging her when she is a prostitute? Last I checked we are all in this because we live having sex with good looking women no strings attached; correct me if I'm wrong pls.
Consider yourself corrected, we aren't all just looking for the sex! If I don't 'connect' with who I'm with it just isn't as good for me. I'll take good service and chemistry over good looks, if she has both all the better.
 

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Money and sex have a lot in common...

You never seem to have enough money, and you likewise never seem to have enough...(fill in reponse)

The cost of sex is directly proportional to the depth of your pockets...

Similarly, a woman's sexual response is also proportional to the depth of your pockets...

Old money is like old sex; it stinks! New money.............. (you get my drift)

Money is the root of all evil; sex is also..............

Money makes men crazy; sex makes men...........

You can think of other ones......
 

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Massagegirl said:
I don't care how hot a guy is, if he is snobby, arrogant, rude or slovenly his looks would go down for me and an average Joe who is sweet, courteous and kind would get a higher score in the looks department.

I think that's the point, hot people can be total snobs while average people are more accepting and a lot of men like that.

Some guys just want to fuck a girl who's out of their league and those are the ones that think looks are so important. (When I first got in this business I remember being told that the ugliest guys will want the best looking girls.)
Well said.

We can point to two clear examples where appearances are very deceiving and do not reveal what the actual person is really like:

Paul Bernardo
Karla Homolka

They got away with it for so long because each of them was considered extremely attractive, clean and polite.

On the other hand, there's lots of so-called "ugly" men and women who are really beautiful inside. Getting to know them is a pleasure (and much safer than getting to know the likes of Paul and Karla :) ).




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Massagegirl

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Re: Re: Is it just me or are some SPs grossly over priced?

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If I've seen an SP before and she increases her price beyond that limit...:D
You mean we're allowed to raise our rates??
 

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Sorry, no. I'm in charge of these things now!
 

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Massagegirl said:
I was also told that psychologists are the worst customers to have and that's certainly been true so far, only in that they have the strangest fetishes.

Thats interesting. Do tell.
 

Massagegirl

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I just started a new thread, let me know what you guys think of the new(ish) rating system I stole from the Seattle board here.
 

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Massagegirl said:
You mean we're allowed to raise our rates??
By all means. No one is stopping you. Higher rates, however, may stop some clients. Everyone is free to make their own decisions. :)
 

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I have been advised to raise my hour rate to $120 as it is closer to the norm, but I agree that it is not worth losing regulars over. I would prefer to let people tip if they can afford to.
 

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What a tragedy this board has become. A classic example of what happens when you allow SPs to dominate the board. SPs lecture us for judging beauty. Hello, we pay you for sex. Of course we're going to judge your looks. And we're going to comment on your rates.
 
SPs UNITE!

First we will take over the boards, next stop, the world.

WOO HOO

You can comment on rates all you like, but in the end, it is up to each SP to decide what her time is worth. I resent Johnny Client passing judgement on any particular SP's decision on what that amount is.
 
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