iPhone 5

[mercyshooter]

What an ignorant comment. The "tiny screen" iPhone 5 will be the most successful smartphone in history. Clearly there are lot of people more than happy with it.

The trend of bigger screens for a device that is meant to be mobile and fit in your pocket all day is getting ridiculous. Samsung (and others) have been using it as a marketing tactic. It also allows them to fit more power and battery into their phones without having to optimize on their engineering, which is fair enough. It would be cringeworthy to see them try to come out with a competing device the size of the iPhone 5 - the amount of engineering it took to pack that much into such a small device cannot easily be duplicated. I have to admit it's a good strategy but there is a limit to ever increasing screen size on a PHONE. The Galaxy Note has easily surpassed that limit - I laugh every time I see one of those. I've even seen people use two hands to hold it to their head to talk, absolutely hilarious.

Apple could easily have made the iPhone any size they want - they design great displays for tablets, laptops and desktops so it wouldn't be a particularly difficult feat. Clearly they see an advantage to having a phone that isn't huge and can easily be operated with one hand - and so do hundreds of millions of users. For every person who switches to Android for a big screen, there are two or three who switch to an iPhone because they're tired of carrying bricks in their pockets.

Your ignorance shows with the optometrist comment. It's not only about screen size, but resolution and display quality as well, with the iPhone kicks ass at. My eyes are just fine.

can the screen display 720p stuff? i bet not!

 

[summerbreeze]

Bigger screen = shorter battery life
Do you want to watch videos or have a portable phone which has enough power to last between recharge times.

 

[storm rider]

Bigger screen = shorter battery life
Do you want to watch videos or have a portable phone which has enough power to last between recharge times.

Hey dont point out obvious factual flaws about the IPhone as the IPhone zombies
will just spew more non-sensical crapulence about it's superiority over and over.

SR

 

[G.O.B.]

Hey dont point out obvious factual flaws about the IPhone as the IPhone zombies
will just spew more non-sensical crapulence about it's superiority over and over.

SR

He's actually pointing out a flaw with having a massive screen - not an iPhone. Reading comprehension is your friend.

can the screen display 720p stuff? i bet not!

You enjoy your 720p display and I'll enjoy the best smartphone display ever created...

The iPhone 5 Display:
It’s still a Retina Display with 326 Pixels Per Inch PPI and with a Resolution of 1136x640 pixels. We were hoping for 1280x720, which is Standard High Definition HD, but presumably that will be for the iPhone 6. That’s not a disappointment, just a wish list… Based on our extensive Lab measurements the iPhone 5 has a true state-of-the-art display – it’s not perfect and there is plenty of room for improvements (and competitors) but it’s the best Smartphone display we have tested to date.

We’ll examine the iPhone 5 display in detail below, but here are the Highlights: it is the Brightest Smartphone we have tested in the Shoot-Out series, it has one of the lowest screen Reflectance values we have ever measured, it has the highest Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light for any Mobile device we have ever tested, and it’s Color Gamut and Factory Calibration are second only to the new iPad. What are the downsides? The White Point is still somewhat too blue like most Smartphones, and at Maximum Brightness it has a shorter Running Time than the iPhone 4, which is not surprising since it has a larger screen and a larger Color Gamut but roughly the same capacity battery.

The Galaxy S III Display:
Samsung also features their displays when marketing Smartphones, but they have taken a very different approach – they are using Samsung’s own OLED displays, a new and rapidly evolving display technology that is very different from LCDs, with its own particular set of advantages and disadvantages. It’s a new technology that attracts early adopters, but it has not yet been refined to the same degree as LCDs, which have been mainstream for over 20 years. It’s clear that OLEDs in the near future will do to LCDs what LCDs did to CRTs, but we are not there yet… So OLEDs have a number of rough spots that show up clearly in our objective Lab testing.

We’ll examine the OLED Galaxy S III display in detail below, but here are the Highlights: the Brightness is about half of the iPhone 5 due to power limits from the lower power efficiency of OLEDs and concerns regarding premature OLED aging. The Color Gamut is not only much larger than the Standard Color Gamut, which leads to distorted and exaggerated colors, but the Color Gamut is quite lopsided, with Green being a lot more saturated than Red or Blue, which adds a Green color caste to many images. Samsung has not bothered to correct or calibrate their display colors to bring them into closer agreement with the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut, so many images appear over saturated and gaudy. Running Time on battery is less than the iPhone 5 due to the lower power efficiency of OLEDs, even given that the Galaxy S III has a much larger battery capacity and much lower Brightness.

The Galaxy S III has a PenTile OLED display, which has only half of the number of Red and Blue sub-pixels as in standard RGB displays, like those on the iPhones. The eye’s resolution for color image detail is lower, so this works well for photographic and video image content, but NOT for computer generated colored text and fine graphics because it produces visible pixelation, moiré, and other very visible artifacts, so a PenTile display is not as sharp as its pixel Resolution and PPI would indicate. PenTile technology does have advantages in manufacturing, aging and cost. For a more detailed analysis see our Samsung Galaxy S OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out.

 

[wilde]

The trend of bigger screens for a device that is meant to be mobile and fit in your pocket all day is getting ridiculous. Samsung (and others) have been using it as a marketing tactic. It also allows them to fit more power and battery into their phones without having to optimize on their engineering, which is fair enough. It would be cringeworthy to see them try to come out with a competing device the size of the iPhone 5 - the amount of engineering it took to pack that much into such a small device cannot easily be duplicated. I have to admit it's a good strategy but there is a limit to ever increasing screen size on a PHONE. The Galaxy Note has easily surpassed that limit - I laugh every time I see one of those. I've even seen people use two hands to hold it to their head to talk, absolutely hilarious.

Going to a bigger screen is a natural progression not a marketing tactic. A lot of the iPhone users I have talked to wish it had a bigger screen. Have you ever tried surfing the net for longer than 10 minutes? I have and it bothers my eyes. Many people thought the same thing as you about the Samsung note but the device is an undeniable success. You accuse other people for their blind hatred for Apple, you may want to apply that reasoning towards your hatred of Android phones. For me, whoever has the product that best suits my needs gets my vote. Apple used to be the innovator but with the iPhone 5, the general consensuses is that it is merely playing catch up. The iPhone 5 is a decent device but it reeks of staleness and is getting boring. If they rest on their laurels they could become today's Nokia.

 

[mercyshooter]

Hey G.O.B., most techie in general will tell you that, under logical rational complete tech specification, iphone sucks deep.

 

[Tugela]

The trend of bigger screens for a device that is meant to be mobile and fit in your pocket all day is getting ridiculous. Samsung (and others) have been using it as a marketing tactic. It also allows them to fit more power and battery into their phones without having to optimize on their engineering, which is fair enough. It would be cringeworthy to see them try to come out with a competing device the size of the iPhone 5 - the amount of engineering it took to pack that much into such a small device cannot easily be duplicated. I have to admit it's a good strategy but there is a limit to ever increasing screen size on a PHONE. The Galaxy Note has easily surpassed that limit - I laugh every time I see one of those. I've even seen people use two hands to hold it to their head to talk, absolutely hilarious.

Apple could easily have made the iPhone any size they want - they design great displays for tablets, laptops and desktops so it wouldn't be a particularly difficult feat. Clearly they see an advantage to having a phone that isn't huge and can easily be operated with one hand - and so do hundreds of millions of users. For every person who switches to Android for a big screen, there are two or three who switch to an iPhone because they're tired of carrying bricks in their pockets.

There are small andoid phones as well. The flagship models have big screens because those are the screen sizes that sell. It is not because they are trying to be different, it is because that is what the average consumer wants. On the contary, it is APPLE that doesnt want to make the larger screens for fear of being accused of copying the others.

Samsung and the other manufacturers are quite capable of engineering smaller cases if they need to - after all they are the ones actually making the iPhone. Apple doesnt actually make anything. The bits that go into a smartphone are essentially the same size no matter who makes them. in fact, the recent lawsuit about the Galaxy variants was precisely BECAUSE Samung (and other manufacturers) were putting more phone into the same form.

Larger screened phones need larger batteries, but they also have more space for those batteries. The actually have to be MORE concerned about space efficiency than Apple, so suggesting that Apple has better engineering is absurd.

 

[G.O.B.]

Going to a bigger screen is a natural progression not a marketing tactic. A lot of the iPhone users I have talked to wish it had a bigger screen. Have you ever tried surfing the net for longer than 10 minutes? I have and it bothers my eyes. Many people thought the same thing as you about the Samsung note but the device is an undeniable success. You accuse other people for their blind hatred for Apple, you may want to apply that reasoning towards your hatred of Android phones. For me, whoever has the product that best suits my needs gets my vote. Apple used to be the innovator but with the iPhone 5, the general consensuses is that it is merely playing catch up. The iPhone 5 is a decent device but it reeks of staleness and is getting boring. If they rest on their laurels they could become today's Nokia.

That just isn't true. To people who actually review phones and are familiar with both iOS and Android, there is a clear winner:

http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...istence_of_the_greatest_phone_ever_made_.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-19/iphone-gets-bigger-thinner-faster-rich-jaroslovsky.html
http://www.cnet.com/iphone-5/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/t...5-scores-well-with-a-quibble-review.html?_r=0
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2012-09-18/iphone-5-review/57803932/1
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444450004578004370248427736.html
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5989/apple-iphone-5-phone-review

As for innovation, just because the design hasn't significantly changed doesn't mean Apple hasn't innovated. The nano-SIM standard was designed by Apple. The new connector, while it may be an inconvenience at first will be far more useful than the old one and micro-USB down the road (I'll leave you to research that, as it's complex to explain). Not directly related to the phone, but 3 years of R&D went into the new earbuds, and they are pretty damn good for stock earbuds. The list goes on - not huge things but innovations nonetheless that make everything just that much better. What innovations has Samsung come up with?

There are small andoid phones as well. The flagship models have big screens because those are the screen sizes that sell. It is not because they are trying to be different, it is because that is what the average consumer wants. On the contary, it is APPLE that doesnt want to make the larger screens for fear of being accused of copying the others.

Samsung and the other manufacturers are quite capable of engineering smaller cases if they need to - after all they are the ones actually making the iPhone. Apple doesnt actually make anything. The bits that go into a smartphone are essentially the same size no matter who makes them. in fact, the recent lawsuit about the Galaxy variants was precisely BECAUSE Samung (and other manufacturers) were putting more phone into the same form.

Larger screened phones need larger batteries, but they also have more space for those batteries. The actually have to be MORE concerned about space efficiency than Apple, so suggesting that Apple has better engineering is absurd.

Your entire post makes no sense. You're basically saying it's easier to pack more power into a smaller device than a larger device. Really?! I'd love to have a razor thin laptop that can compete with a desktop replacement. Must be a simple task, right? Absurd.

By the way, Samsung doesn't make the iPhone. They manufacture a chip. Foxconn assembles it. This is no different than anybody else, really. You need to learn the difference between engineering/design and manufacturing.

I can see that this thread is going to blow up due to my presence, so I won't post any more. I was just asking a simple question, and based on the responses I have my answer. There is clearly a lot of ignorance about Apple and its products, and a lot of people won't take the time to educate themselves.

 

[mercyshooter]

let the battle begin! ound:

 

[summerbreeze]

It's known as market segmentation, different strokes for different folks

No one perfect phone for everyone, pick what's best for your needs and enjoy....

 

[wilde]

That just isn't true. To people who actually review phones and are familiar with both iOS and Android, there is a clear winner:

http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...istence_of_the_greatest_phone_ever_made_.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-19/iphone-gets-bigger-thinner-faster-rich-jaroslovsky.html
http://www.cnet.com/iphone-5/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/t...5-scores-well-with-a-quibble-review.html?_r=0
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2012-09-18/iphone-5-review/57803932/1
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444450004578004370248427736.html
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5989/apple-iphone-5-phone-review

As for innovation, just because the design hasn't significantly changed doesn't mean Apple hasn't innovated. The nano-SIM standard was designed by Apple. The new connector, while it may be an inconvenience at first will be far more useful than the old one and micro-USB down the road (I'll leave you to research that, as it's complex to explain). Not directly related to the phone, but 3 years of R&D went into the new earbuds, and they are pretty damn good for stock earbuds. The list goes on - not huge things but innovations nonetheless that make everything just that much better. What innovations has Samsung come up with?

Here are a few dissension just from cnet alone:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57511658-233/iphone-5-opens-the-door-for-nokia-samsung/
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57511246-233/iphone-5-what-we-didnt-get/http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57522042-92/iphone-5-honeymoon-over-already/
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57526331-233/eight-fixes-the-iphone-5-needs/

Just a couple of quick examples. Some Android phones have been using LTE for a year now. If that's not playing catch up, I don't know what is. Oh and that panoramic shooting mode have been available in camera apps and the Galaxy SIII for a while.

 

[mercyshooter]

It's known as market segmentation, different strokes for different folks

No one perfect phone for everyone, pick what's best for your needs and enjoy....

but a tech guy will definitely know the good and bad for both, and base on that, will know which one is perfect in tech sense.

 

[storm rider]

but a tech guy will definitely know the good and bad for both, and base on that, will know which one is perfect in tech sense.

Yeah but in the grand scheme of things who gives a fuck as there will allways be somebody bleating like a sheep on and on how something else is better.

I actually get a huge laugh about how people have to HAVE the newest and latest/best technological advances
be it for a smartphone or an LCD/Plasma flatscreen as soon as they hit the market....do you think those people
that paid $30,000 for a 27" Plasma flat screen TV way back in 1998 feel smug about their cutting edge technology purchase now when they walk through Costco and see a 60" LCD 3D TV for less than 10% of the cost of the AWESOME TV they bought way back when because the just had to HAVE it.

As for the IPhone it is the same thing....1 year from now it wont be the IPhone 6 that is released it will
be the IPhone 5B of 5A or some other bullshit spun up by the marketing department at Apple and it will
only be marginally better...the following year Apple will release the IPhone 6 which will only be marginally
better and most like have yet another new and smaller port for accessories because smaller is better
and smaller is better especially for the company as all those ISlaves(new name I made up as I wrote this) will
of course re-purchase all of those things needed to run on the latest IPhone as they simply cant live
without them.

The biggest joke is that all of these products both the smartphones and the accessories for them
are produced in China for a pittance and resold in the Western world at a huge mark up and the even bigger
joke is that 95% of all the ISlaves when they buy ther new IPhone(who owns them like an indentured servant) well they re-up their cell phone contract for another 3 years each time.


Interview with an ISlave waiting inline for the newest IPhone.

Question: Should you not be at work?

Answer :Well I should but I called in sick and have been in line for 14 hours as I HAVE to get the new phone.

Question:Is it any better than the phone that was released a year ago?

Answer :Blah blah blah techinical BS that indicates it is marginally better

Question:By making this purchase are you putting yourself under financial hardship?

Answer :Well not really as I will be putting it on a credit card but I gotta HAVE it because OTHER
people are getting one.

Question:Will you somehow feel superior and advantaged compared to someone who does not have one?

Answer :Well of course I will.It is the newest phone and it is better and thusly I am better than others
because I have one.

I can post more brain responses but I wont bother to take the time to type them.

Buy the new IPhone and welcome your existence to being an ISlave.

SR

 

[wilde]

I actually get a huge laugh about how people have to HAVE the newest and latest/best technological advances
be it for a smartphone or an LCD/Plasma flatscreen as soon as they hit the market....do you think those people
that paid $30,000 for a 27" Plasma flat screen TV way back in 1998 feel smug about their cutting edge technology purchase now when they walk through Costco and see a 60" LCD 3D TV for less than 10% of the cost of the AWESOME TV they bought way back when because the just had to HAVE it.

I used to think this way as well. In reality, we should thank them because without these people providing some initial interest and $$$ on new products at very expensive prices, some of those products may not have survived until they are produced for the masses.

 

[storm rider]

I used to think this way as well. In reality, we should thank them because without these people providing some initial interest and $$$ on new products at very expensive prices, some of those products may not have survived until they are produced for the masses.

Yes but in the grand scheme of things times have changed as technonogy is updating
faster than ever.If you buy a new home computer that is state of the art it is most likely obsolete
3 months later yet some idiots will purchase the newest and bestest just for the sake of having it.
People like that also tend to take vacations just for the sake of doing so and have no where-withal
with regards to their retirement as they fully expect that the Canada Pension Plan will take
take care of them.

SR

 

[blazejowski]

yet some idiots will purchase the newest and bestest just for the sake of having it.

We call those "Apple Users"
Lol...

 

[PlayfulAlex]

Your morning Apple chuckle...

 

[manni]

Your morning Apple chuckle...

simple and clever banter.
thanks for sharing PlayfulAlex.

 

[storm rider]

We call those "Apple Users"
Lol...

No the new name is ISlave.....and you owe me .25 in royalties for me having to use it for you.

SR

 

[badbadboy]

This made me laugh