iPhone 15

[westwoody]

Rogers offered me one but at a monthly fee of over $45 on top of the cost for cellular service. And at the end of the term they want the phone back. So it looks like I pay to rent the phone?

Am I missing something? I have never had to return a phone at the end of a contract before.

 

[stressless123]

Rogers offered me one but at a monthly fee of over $45 on top of the cost for cellular service. And at the end of the term they want the phone back. So it looks like I pay to rent the phone?

Am I missing something? I have never had to return a phone at the end of a contract before.

Most new contracts are what they are calling bring it back. You pay $0 upfront and a monthly fee depending on what phone you are getting. After 2 years you return the phone to them or buy it out at a set price. So yes you are leasing a phone. These deals are good for people who want brand new flashy phones and upgrade them regularly but can't actually afford to buy the phone outright. Companies are trying to go away from the traditional financing deals where they gave you a discount for signing up and you pay the rest to cover the remaining phone cost monthly and by the end of the contract, the phone is paid off and yours to keep.

Edit to add: my suggestion is to always buy your phone outright and shop for plans during black Friday or boxing day. You can get really good byop phone plans nowadays and if you are not tied down into a contract you can switch providers whenever a better deal shows up. If one cannot afford to buy the phone outright, looking into 0% financing offers offered directly by phone manufacturer is another way to get the phone you desire and stay away from Robelus terrible contracts

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Rogers offered me one but at a monthly fee of over $45 on top of the cost for cellular service. And at the end of the term they want the phone back. So it looks like I pay to rent the phone?

Am I missing something? I have never had to return a phone at the end of a contract before.

Rogers/Shaw -- This should have never gone through but when has the CRTC ever worked for the people ...
Fuckers will do whatever they want to ramp up the costs even higher than anywhere else on the planet.
My cell if via a corporate pan but as I recall it from some time ago, many of the 2-3 year locked in deals had you either trading in your phone at the end, buying it outright for a residual that was over market price, or just handing it back. Back to Rogers doing whatever the fuck they want, well, there you go.

 

[westwoody]

Yeah the Shaw+Rogers monopoly is absolute bullshit.

 

[jgg]

I buy my phone outright, I have a legacy plan that has been good but Bell nickel an dime (read $5.00 every few months) me on it. I have to compare plans and so far it works out for me. I usually upgrade phones every 2 or 3 releases.

 

[white Ninja]

I guess it kinda makes sense since after 4 yrs max the mjority of people under 50 will just put thier old phone in a drawer.

Still strictly financially speaking though its way worse of a deal for the customer . At least before you paid a couple hundred right off the bat , but afterwards just did your leasing which was worked into said contract , but still had something to show for it at the end .

What you did w it was till up to you . You could keep it as a back up in case you lose yours. Give the older one to your kids or parents .
This way , other than the small initial fee you are essentially paying the same but at the end are essentially standing on the street corner w your thumb up your ass and nothing to show for it.

 

[westwoody]

Non replaceable batteries ensured a limited life span.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

There has been a lot written on how to put an older (not too old) phone to use.
I have a BlackBerry Playbook, yes, I really do, that still fires up and runs Splashtop to emulate MediaMonkey which runs my music collection on a stable W7 laptop with 3TB hard drive. The hardware and battery so far in that BB unit is bullet proof. Kind of a kick when folks say "what is this?"
Anyway, if you have Android from about 5 ish and up, there are still a lot of apps that run on it, and if you want an extra gizmo, have at it.
But back to billing from our telecoms - Fuckers is all I can say.

 

[westwoody]

I have a BB10 but I entered the wrong password and it bricked itself.

Lost a ton of photos 😢 and keep hoping someday they will be recovered.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

I have a BB10 but I entered the wrong password and it bricked itself.

Lost a ton of photos 😢 and keep hoping someday they will be recovered.

Bummer. BB security. Pretty much unmatched. My Key2 finally died ... end of a long era.

 

[kelcaine]

This sounds like a way for Rogers to make more money by leasing phones to customers, where when they take them back they refurbish them and sell them. At $45 a year that is $540. If you’re in a 2 year contract that is $1,080, and at the end of 2 years you will be paying more than the phone is worth, especially as IPhone comes out with a new phone pretty much every year.

I have gotten phones under contract and bought outright, and prefer buying outright. It’s less money overall, and even if you can’t afford the newest iPhone, previous versions are almost as good.

Having to return a phone at the end of contract also sounds like a big hassle, and I would assume if you didn’t bring it in on time there would be late fees too. This is definitely a new thing communication companies are doing, but I don’t think it’s in the best interest of customers. Big corporations like Rogers are always about money first for them.

 

[LM987]

This sounds like a way for Rogers to make more money by leasing phones to customers, where when they take them back they refurbish them and sell them. At $45 a year that is $540. If you’re in a 2 year contract that is $1,080, and at the end of 2 years you will be paying more than the phone is worth, especially as IPhone comes out with a new phone pretty much every year.

I have gotten phones under contract and bought outright, and prefer buying outright. It’s less money overall, and even if you can’t afford the newest iPhone, previous versions are almost as good.

Having to return a phone at the end of contract also sounds like a big hassle, and I would assume if you didn’t bring it in on time there would be late fees too. This is definitely a new thing communication companies are doing, but I don’t think it’s in the best interest of customers. Big corporations like Rogers are always about money first for them.

And if you do buy an iphone in full, Apple does offer a reasonable trade in value down the road. Not the best, but it's an easy return policy.
But overall phone's are way overpriced IMHO.

 

[kelcaine]

And if you do buy an iphone in full, Apple does offer a reasonable trade in value down the road. Not the best, but it's an easy return policy.
But overall phone's are way overpriced IMHO.

Yes, I did this when buying my iPhone 15. I got some money for trading in my iPhone 13 towards it, so overall it was a decent deal for a new phone.

I fully agree that phones are way overpriced right now. They don’t make them as durable and long lasting as when smartphones first came out, either. I swear phone companies make them so they don’t last on purpose to have us buying new phones every couple of years.

 

[80watts]

The old phone chips probally going to some drone in russia.

 

[Larry's Torch]

Way off topic, but this IS perb. 🤦‍♀️
My daily driver is a Galaxy S2 X. Bought it with a Koodo TAB credit in 2011, it was about $600 (!) back then, but I paid $80 after credit was applied. It's been in a case since day one. Replaced the power button once (this phone can ACTUALLY be repaired and parts are STILL available) and am on the second battery; power lasts about a day and a half with texts and calls. Stand by is about three days. Browser is seriously outdated, only site it'll load is google but I'm not using it for anything online.
It's a phone. That's what I use it for.
Have saved 1000's by not buying the newest, shiniest release which will need replacing in about two years.
My current plan is $39.32/mo. (taxes in). Unlimited Canada wide calling/text.
Keep it simple. Keep more of your own $.

And now back to the original topic ⬇

 

[westwoody]

I agree, updating is good way to waste money. Whether it’s phones, televisions, computers whatever.

 

[ModSquad]

It doesn’t surprise me Rogers is doing this now. To think they used to give you a free phone just for signing up with Rogers. So many people are holding onto their older iPhones and retailers need stock of used phones.

Is buying it from Apple out of the question? Past 2 phones I’ve owned were bought from Apple. One was an Apple refurbished phone that saved me hundreds. I have been using them for just under 2 years when Apple care runs out and then selling. Buying one is approx same cost as a decent laptop these days. A fully loaded iphone 15 Pro Max can easily cost over $2K depending on the add ons.

 

[Crookedmember]

I know some people need an iPhone, but you can buy a Pixel 7a from the Google Store for $399.