FYI Fred
When logging in to the forum TLS does not activate. I got a warning when I logged into it tonight and that's telling me you've got a certificate error of some type. And once you log in you get an invalid path, but if you click on Perb.cc in the top left hand corner you're good. I did a bit of digging and that's a Vbulletin issue.
I'm speaking on a professional level but TLS on login is *extremely* important for these sites. There are a good number of people who would like to fuck this site up and all the users on it.
PS. To the abolitionist types. Such interesting conversations you have about perb, terb, etc. *grins*.