Interesting ad on CraigsList
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Sure... this guy has valid concerns, and any quality provider shouldn't have problems with these.
The part I didn't like, was the last sentence. "... and trust me you WILL return the money."
It implies a threat to ones safety. I know I would not like to see the person who wrote that.
The part I didn't like, was the last sentence. "... and trust me you WILL return the money."
It implies a threat to ones safety. I know I would not like to see the person who wrote that.
I think you're reading too much into it - I don't see anywhere that he implies that he's using physical force to get his money back.
On the other hand, maybe you guys are busy seeing the wrong types of girls... rarely if ever do I encounter any of those things.
On the other hand, maybe you guys are busy seeing the wrong types of girls... rarely if ever do I encounter any of those things.
It doesn't sound like the ladies he is seeing charge 300 an hour, lol... I am kind of curious who he is seeing though seeing as he is in the same town as me...
I'd have to agree with you there. It sounds like he went to visit one of those "too good to be true" ads, IMO. And, from the description in #1, was well aware of what he might be getting himself into by staying lol.
And considering #3 & #4, makes you wonder what kind of dummy would now be worried about #5!
When I first read the OP my initial thought was "He's threatening violence against SPs if they try to rip him off".
Re-reading it, I realize that my interpretation of his comment was biased by my opinion about the chances of getting $ back from an CL SP who acts in the ways he has listed WITHOUT violence. ie: no way in hell would it happen.
So, I guess there are two ways to read the message, if you feel that in general a CL SP who rips off a client like that wouldn't give back a penny no matter how he asked without violence, then you'll see it as a physical threat.
If you feel that a CL SP would be fair and apologize for acting in that way if confronted and offer him at least a partial refund, then your thought would be "Well of course a girl would immediately give you a refund and a great big apology after acting that way! You wouldn't even have to ask her!"
How many people had thought #2?
What does that say about the way CL escorts treat clients?
Re-reading it, I realize that my interpretation of his comment was biased by my opinion about the chances of getting $ back from an CL SP who acts in the ways he has listed WITHOUT violence. ie: no way in hell would it happen.
So, I guess there are two ways to read the message, if you feel that in general a CL SP who rips off a client like that wouldn't give back a penny no matter how he asked without violence, then you'll see it as a physical threat.
If you feel that a CL SP would be fair and apologize for acting in that way if confronted and offer him at least a partial refund, then your thought would be "Well of course a girl would immediately give you a refund and a great big apology after acting that way! You wouldn't even have to ask her!"
How many people had thought #2?
What does that say about the way CL escorts treat clients?
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Dood - Why did you quote me?? 
I was just saying it doesn't sound like he sees $300 dollar an hour girls, with the sores 'n all. Plus, I don't believe we have escorts in that price range in Abbotsford....
Absolutely I believe that customers should get the best service possible! Ahmen and hallelujah!
I was just saying it doesn't sound like he sees $300 dollar an hour girls, with the sores 'n all. Plus, I don't believe we have escorts in that price range in Abbotsford....
Absolutely I believe that customers should get the best service possible! Ahmen and hallelujah!
Dood,
No one is debating whether or not his expectations are realistic or not. Like I said, those are perfectly reasonable.
I have to agree with Melissa... and he has obviously been shorted in some way.
One thing to remember when talking about C.L. is that there are many SPs advertising HERE... that ALSO advertise on C.L. Yes... reputable ones, with glowing reviews and are true to the image they portray.
There is nothing wrong with demanding value for money, however, this guy just seems angry. If you were me, would you take a gamble and see someone who you got bad vibes from?
Personally, I never worry about clients demanding back their money, because I do not false advertise. I also pride myself on good service, and really try to make sure the clients needs are met.
To quote what another SP said... not every dollar is a good dollar.
No one is debating whether or not his expectations are realistic or not. Like I said, those are perfectly reasonable.
I have to agree with Melissa... and he has obviously been shorted in some way.
One thing to remember when talking about C.L. is that there are many SPs advertising HERE... that ALSO advertise on C.L. Yes... reputable ones, with glowing reviews and are true to the image they portray.
There is nothing wrong with demanding value for money, however, this guy just seems angry. If you were me, would you take a gamble and see someone who you got bad vibes from?
Personally, I never worry about clients demanding back their money, because I do not false advertise. I also pride myself on good service, and really try to make sure the clients needs are met.
To quote what another SP said... not every dollar is a good dollar.
Assumption about CL sps being violent, shady crackhead, whatever is, as CC reminds us, kind of idiotic. Very few perb advertisers, including those on the island, ignore CL as a valuable advertising site. island-guy has just painted Jaimie Lane, melissa.in.abby, Holly Taylor, LovelyRubi, Katlyn, Olivia Jade, Classy Angel, ginabina, MIA, Beautiful Anna, Aynia, Nikki-Amore, Jessikaxxx, xoxoAmie, each and every asian micro sp who have large and loyal fan clubs (so the majority of the perb reviewers lol), and that is just the Vancouver/Victoria CL. Add in the well reviewed CL advertisers such as Marie, Szabina, Monique, and on and on and on.
To me, the chances of a experiencing the sort of encounter as described must be as difficult as being unable to find an asian sp who offers full gfe/pse for under 200. If someone can't tell by the quality of the ad, just how different one of these sorts of ads is from any and all of the above, then really what do you expect?
To me, the chances of a experiencing the sort of encounter as described must be as difficult as being unable to find an asian sp who offers full gfe/pse for under 200. If someone can't tell by the quality of the ad, just how different one of these sorts of ads is from any and all of the above, then really what do you expect?
dood, you keep talking about 300/hr sps that you are paying all the time, but who exactly is it that you see for 300/hr?
And, just so you can keep the sarcasm down to a dull roar when replying to CC, she doesn't charge 300/hr Nor is she (or does she ever, IMO) speaking with any attitude, another thing I expect someone to start up about.
Getting kind of tired of all the accusations of bad service, attitude, and false advertising linked with a 300 price tag when the reality (the reviews posted) clearly indicate that this price tag usually results in exceptional service, accurate pics, and great attitude (fox den reviews, vanesssa, holly, katlyn, etc etc etc)
Seems to me that your under 200 specials with the asian micros are the ones that get the consistently mixed results, don't it? Even for the exact same sps?
And, just so you can keep the sarcasm down to a dull roar when replying to CC, she doesn't charge 300/hr
Nor is she (or does she ever, IMO) speaking with any attitude, another thing I expect someone to start up about. Getting kind of tired of all the accusations of bad service, attitude, and false advertising linked with a 300 price tag when the reality (the reviews posted) clearly indicate that this price tag usually results in exceptional service, accurate pics, and great attitude (fox den reviews, vanesssa, holly, katlyn, etc etc etc)
Seems to me that your under 200 specials with the asian micros are the ones that get the consistently mixed results, don't it? Even for the exact same sps?
Unfortunately, not everyone approaches this hobby with same joie de vivre that ThreeTimes does. For them it becomes x$ for Xservice, and bully or whine that the xxx$ for xservice won't lower their price or increase their service just because they said so.ThreeTimes does not really enjoy the tone of voice. It sounds too business for ThreeTimes.
Fortunately ThreeTimes enjoys life with a happy attitude and will never suffer from bad karma because happy people meet more happy people, and sometimes happy people create happiness around them.
I'm with ThreeTimes, I've never felt it was just business. I like to go to MP's and it's always fun and exciting for me, even when I'm seeing regulars.ThreeTimes does not really enjoy the tone of voice. It sounds too business for ThreeTimes.
1) If I come over will there be any other guys hanging around that aren't customers? ie Boyfriends, Hangarounds, Drug Dealers etc...
Never seen any of those, normally I'm met by the receptionist who has been expecting me for my appointment. They are always friendly and a few know me pretty good so I can joke with them and pry them for hints of what my SP has planned for me. I'm offered a drink and get the shower started.
2) Will you walk away at the start of the session for 5 or 10 minutes to do whatever and then count that as part of my time paid for?
That has happened to me, but normally after a 5 minute shower the girl enters the room and we remain together for the whole time. More often the girl will excuse herself near the end, usually while I shower, that doesn't make me feel cheated, I always get a hug at the door.
3) Will anybody interrupt the session with phone calls, knocks on the door etc...and will you leave for a moment to deal with it?
Upon your return will you suddenly tell me, "Ok, we gotta hurry up."?
That has also happened to me a number of times, but only with indys on an incall or outcall. The only interruption I've had at a MP is a polite knock if the SP and I lose track of time, that can happen alot too.
4) Do you have sores all over your body and/or face that happen to not be visible in your photo?
I've never had that happen, I would probably respectfully decline the session. I would expect to pay something as I do if I decide not to see an outcall girl who turns out to be not what was expected, I probably don't have to pay anything but cab fare usually diffuses any more difficulties.
5) Are you able to actually do a session for the time you advertised? ie 1 hour IS 1 hour?
This has never been a contention of mine. Quite often I am the one to cut things short. If I've done what I intended, am satisfied with the attention or encouragement that follows and had a shower then I'm pretty much ready to go.
If I show up and there's a problem with any of these things the date is over and trust me, you will return my money.
I just can't agree with this, maybe I'm old fashioned but I've always understood once the money is offered there is no getting it back.
maybe i'm wrong here but what would be the big deal in a client paying half upon arrival and half after the job is done? i guess it would take a certain amount of trust on the part of the sp, but it also is a high amount of trust for us to hand over $300 and not know what to expect. i say the dude loses out more in that situation.
but that might just be because of my perspective.
but that might just be because of my perspective.
SPs aren't the only business that demands payment upfront. In my regular career, I always get payment upfront from clients.
I hired a private trainer for my puppy, and that is always payment upfront.
I think with this industry, it can go 50/50 either way when getting ripped off. However, being that I am an SP, I feel that the girls are at more risk... or indies for sure.
This seems to be another topic that has been talked about over and over.
I agree smackyo.
I'm thinkin that from now on I'll only pay 50% up front.
You bring up some good points here CC & I appreciate your position on this.
That is why I have decided that all gals who I see sign a contract!
I have decided that if a gal does not wish to do the payment after services or 50% down then I will do like your puppy trainer & request a written contract for services to be provided, duration of said services & compensation.
I will ensure the contract is executed in triplicate & one copy will be filed with my accountant for reporting my payments to Canada Revenue Agency as I intend to claim this as a therapeutic expense.
Well I guess if some guys need that type of gaurantee you ladies can probably accommodate them. Just be sure there is the small print that all the contract work goes against the time agreed upon.....then you should only have to spend 5 more minutes with these goofs.That is why I have decided that all gals who I see sign a contract!
I have decided that if a gal does not wish to do the payment after services or 50% down then I will do like your puppy trainer & request a written contract for services to be provided, duration of said services & compensation.
I will ensure the contract is executed in triplicate & one copy will be filed with my accountant for reporting my payments to Canada Revenue Agency as I intend to claim this as a therapeutic expense.
I really don't understand the problem. Sure we all have those times where things are not exactly as expected and you feel slighted, I simply never return to see that girl, It's a lesson learned. I have to believe that some guys just never learn that lesson, or there could be another reason why some guys get less than satisfactory service most of the time. Either they are not seeing the right girls or the blame can't all be on the girl.
If I had an expensive hobby that consistently left me unfulfilled and full of contempt, well I would probably find a new hobby. That's why I don't golf anymore, you can only take so much frustration before you realize I'm just not very good at this.....I get more strokes with an SP anyway
Thinking back, I can't remember the last time that I paid anything before the end of the session. Every once in a while it happens, usually on a first encounter, but almost every time I pay the girl as one of us is headed out the door. Makes tipping easier too.
More than once the girl has blushed and said "Oh, I'd forgotten all about that!!" when I tucked some $ into her pants pocket during the goodbye kiss.
More than once the girl has blushed and said "Oh, I'd forgotten all about that!!" when I tucked some $ into her pants pocket during the goodbye kiss.
wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not? either way it was just a suggestion. its not something i've done before or plan to do.I agree smackyo.
I'm thinkin that from now on I'll only pay 50% up front.
You bring up some good points here CC & I appreciate your position on this.
That is why I have decided that all gals who I see sign a contract!
I have decided that if a gal does not wish to do the payment after services or 50% down then I will do like your puppy trainer & request a written contract for services to be provided, duration of said services & compensation.
I will ensure the contract is executed in triplicate & one copy will be filed with my accountant for reporting my payments to Canada Revenue Agency as I intend to claim this as a therapeutic expense.
i do realize that sp's are not the only business to ask for cash up front (though most places i've been i always pay after.) but with the other for lack of a better term here "legit" business there are avenues you can go through to get monies back if the job, service or product is not delivered in a satisfactory manner.
