Infidelity - am I a monster?

ddcanz

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right here and now

wetnose

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I made the mistake of opening up (anonymously) in a relationship-related reddit group about my deal. Specifically, that after spending years in pretty happy marriage where the bedroom was dead, I resorted to renting temporary satisfaction from SP's. Otherwise, my wife, job, kids, cars, finances, house, cats, dogs, vacation, life, etc are all happy. Just a broken sex life that I was powerless to mend.

Eventually, though some degree of communication and collaboration and manipulation, the wife and I began to see some improvements in the bedroom. I'm content; she's content. It's not perfect but I'm satisfied and am not seeing SP's anymore.


...well the reaction I got on reddit was pitchforks and torches. I was a monster and a fucking broken mess of a human being.

Am I a monster? Now I'm worried that I'm some kind of sociopath because I don't *feel* like a monster.
F*ck 'em. You had a problem, you fixed it and now you (and wife) are happy. Nobody got hurt.

That's all that matters.
 

uncleg

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Yup.....just ask the wife of anybody on here. Mind you, there are probably some that would say you are the most considerate husband ever.


What wetnose said.
 

verbgin

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Oh my God I would be Hitler if this was the case.
For 25 years I have enjoyed my Hobby from 8 to 10 times a year.
I have a great life and a great Marriage and I am VERY careful not to get caught.
I think I am the luckiest guy around , I go thru phases of different Sp's
2 years of Ei girls then on to middle eastern , then spinners, then Tall ones ,
I love my hobby
Who knows whats next but I'm looking forward to it.
Verbgin a proud perbite
 

jamasianman

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I can see how the reddit board would be very judgy. If you had cheated on your wife with just another woman its fine, but if its with Sp's suddenly its bad and you're a monster? Everyone on perb has knowledge of the industry, meanwhile a good 80% of the rest of the population has zero clue about how it really is. All they have is what other people tell them and how its portrayed in the media. You can't expect to get a good solid answer from a place like reddit, because a lot of those people are misinformed.

Meanwhile here on perb we understand that we are all just people we have needs. Without you seeing Sp's, you would have not attempted to fix the problem and get in a better place with your wife. And some women are okay with their men tomcatting if she doesn't wanna be as sexual as the partner would like. Its all different perspectives and scenarios.
 

Total Slacker

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So how exactly would that play out? Straight up tell him/her they are a POS and see ya later- they don't fit your idea of how a friend behaves?
There's a lot more to most situations than meets the eye.
I might not approve or whatever, but I wouldn't dump a life long friend over it.
And when your own wife/SO asks why you don't hang with Johnny/Jenny anymore- you throw them under the bus? Then THEIR spouses and family will find out in a hurry.
Not anyone's business to tank someone else's relationship, IMO.
I'd probably just quietly drift away. I'm single and wouldn't have to face the resulting scrutiny from having a spouse nor would I rat anybody out. Just because I choose to go through life that way, I'm not necessarily advocating others do or being critical when they don't, I just quietly move on.
 

paulal

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My view of sexuality is that it is imminently unpredictable. The brain stem and reptilian brains have hundreds of millions of years of a head start on evolution compared to our giant cortex. And we were having sex in whatever form of species for hundreds of millions of years before we ever contemplated or reflected on it.

IMO, our sentient, reasoning cortex is in a weak negotiating position vis-à-vis the older parts of our brain, yet fears the feelings of guilt and very often, regret at sexual acts that make no sense in the long-term arc of our lives. So the cortex pleads and begs, delays and diverts the reptilian-powered sex drive as much as possible before realizing it's going to lose yet again.

Knowing at some level its weakness, our thinking, feeling, rational selves fear and even resent the power within to wreak havoc to a stable relationship. Once we recognize and accept our vulnerability to irrational behaviour, then we accept our complete selves.
 

badbadboy

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I made the mistake of opening up (anonymously) in a relationship-related reddit group about my deal. Specifically, that after spending years in pretty happy marriage where the bedroom was dead, I resorted to renting temporary satisfaction from SP's. Otherwise, my wife, job, kids, cars, finances, house, cats, dogs, vacation, life, etc are all happy. Just a broken sex life that I was powerless to mend.

Eventually, though some degree of communication and collaboration and manipulation, the wife and I began to see some improvements in the bedroom. I'm content; she's content. It's not perfect but I'm satisfied and am not seeing SP's anymore.


...well the reaction I got on reddit was pitchforks and torches. I was a monster and a fucking broken mess of a human being.

Am I a monster? Now I'm worried that I'm some kind of sociopath because I don't *feel* like a monster.
Where's lars_from_mars?

We haven't heard from you since the OP.

This is sort of like farting as you exit the elevator leaving the other occupants to talk about it :pound:
 

Sonny

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"Infidelity - and I a monster?"

Yes, you are to those who wish to view you that way.
No, to those who do not wish to view you that way.

Your own view of yourself is one or the other or somewhere in between.
Yours is the only one that matters.
How you get there is a matter or your psychology, rationality and beliefs.
Nobody else's business - except your spouse if she were to find out.
 

Addison Cortez

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The cerebral cortex and the reptilian brain/limbic system;hippocampus, hypothalamus & amygdala are responsible for sexuality & sex drive.

The dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is the rational part of the mind/self control centre. The frontal lobes are the last part of the brain to mature...
thanks for sharing
 

Dawn2Dusk

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I view it as a way of keeping a good relationship that isn't perfect going. I have no idea how common my circumstance is in the grand scheme of relationships.

I'm simply tired of beating the dead horse. You can only say so much. For me it's the only thing missing. Everything else is great. I have made it very clear in my head that I stop at massages and happy endings. I refuse to go further because all I really crave is sensual touch every now and again. I drawn the line at that. Also, I feel it's the safer way to go about things.

I don't think your a monster but who am I to judge anyway. To each their.own.
 

billsfan2011

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You need to give yourself a break. Every one of those people with a pitchfork or a torch has their own skeletons in the closet!
 

Dday47

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Obviously, it's not good if you put your partner at risk (stis), but here is how I rationalize it to myself. I only play safe, and my emotional affection stays at home. Also, I have this thing for huge fake boobs, so like what am I supposed to do? Ask my gf to get giant breast implants? Not going to happen.
I don't think it's moral, but it's certainly human to want to experience something that is out of reach (ie. huge fakes). Once in a blue moon is ok, but on the other end of the spectrum, barebacking streetwalkers, and putting yourself and others at risk, that's another story.
 

DangerousDan

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I think some people are justified with stepping out of the marriage if the partner isn't putting in an effort to make the other happy. All relationships have ups and downs and I don't you just throw your hands up with a bad week, month or even year. But, if after a long time, somebody has checked out of the equation sexually, then I think it's reasonable to find that need elsewhere. I also think it is reasonable to not communicate that to keep the relationship going and on good terms.

I think going to SPs is different from trying to form a relationship with another person as well, because that's a legitimate threat to the relationship and family. Seeing an SP isn't.

I think you have an obligation to keep trying to make things work sexually at home and if it does turn around, then the side activities should stop.
 

Fullhouse

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The cerebral cortex and the reptilian brain/limbic system;hippocampus, hypothalamus & amygdala are responsible for sexuality & sex drive.

The dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is the rational part of the mind/self control centre. The frontal lobes are the last part of the brain to mature...
Oh my God, the things one can learn on these educational boards.

I always thought that tits, pussy and ass were responsible for sexuality and sex drive.

I've never even heard of hippocampus, hypothalamus & amygdale ' till now. I'm certainly going store those in my reptilian brain, and the next time I want to come up with a rock hard penis to have sex, I'll just let those 3 words dance around in the theatre of my mind. That should work better than a couple of Viagra's.
I now also understand why my penis decides who, when, where and why I want to fuck certain ladies. It's because the frontal lobes of my brain haven't matured yet. Oh boy oh boy - it'll be so wonderful for me to finally make all those decisions instead of my penis.
 
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