If you could kill someone and get away with it?

[Jethro Bodine]

I've had this conversation with people before over a beer but don't think I've ever seen it posted here.

If you could kill someone and get away with it without any chance of ever getting caught, would you?

Me personally. No. I tend to have a very guilty conscience and even if I didn't get caught, knowing it was wrong, would drive me crazy.
That said I've never hated anyone enough to really want them dead. Perhaps that could change. I've said before that if for example, someone hurt my daughter (assaulted, raped, killed) I very likely would or could but then I really wouldn't care if I got caught.

 

[CJ Tylers]

ummm...no. Had a very realistic/indepth nightmare one time, something along those lines. Freaked me out so badly that even to this day, I occasionally wake up with cold sweats. I can't imagine even for a second doing it for real...

 

[george.caruthers]

Repost this as a poll if you want honest answers.

I've had this conversation with people before over a beer but don't think I've ever seen it posted here.

If you could kill someone and get away with it without any chance of ever getting caught, would you?

Me personally. No. I tend to have a very guilty conscience and even if I didn't get caught, knowing it was wrong, would drive me crazy.
That said I've never hated anyone enough to really want them dead. Perhaps that could change. I've said before that if for example, someone hurt my daughter (assaulted, raped, killed) I very likely would or could but then I really wouldn't care if I got caught.

 

[jesuschrist]

Not me.

But if I were such a person, killing would be the "FUN" part. The shitty part is dealing with the dead body afterwards, unless you're a necrophile I guess. You'd probably want to hide it, and that wouldn't necessarily be easy. Cut it up into pieces I suppose, but even with something like a wood chipper you still risk the chance of being found out. All the blood and hair and skin bits, would leave a lot of evidence behind to be cleaned up.

A friend who works in around marine life told me that off our waters, even at our temperatures, a body would basically dissolve in a few days because of the many different small sea organisms that would completely break it down into nothing. The only trouble is keeping the body down near the ocean floor with a contraption yet still exposing enough parts of it for the body to be eaten away, and better yet use a contraption that itself would dissolve after so that bottom draggers don't pull it up.

Scott Peterson really could have gotten away with it, but when the torso washed ashore, it was such a miracle. Especially in the warm waters off San Francisco, it might have been the perfect murder.

If you really wanted to do someone in but not have to deal with the hassle of the body, make it look like they killed themselves. For example, get a whole bunch of heroin and use their own hand to inject it. Then they just look like they overdosed it themselves.

I think you have to be really sick to want to kill someone. The guilt and nightmares that would follow any normal person would be a lifetime of torture. Unfortunately, as I just outlined, you stand a good chance of getting away with it if you just use your brain a little bit. That's the scary part - probably a lot of unsolved murders are done by people who were just crafty enough.

 

[sevenofnine]

my father

but he is allready dead.


perhaps i should have, when my mother asked me to

 

[donovan12345]

my father

but he is allready dead.


perhaps i should have, when my mother asked me to

wow.. must have been tough times.

Good Luck.

 

[jesuschrist]

my father

but he is allready dead.


perhaps i should have, when my mother asked me to

You could always go and spit on his grave.

 

[wolverine]

I can think of a few people, but more who are in the public realm than in my personal life. I can daydream about offing people who piss me off, but when it came down to it, I doubt if I could really do it.

BTW, I read a brilliant graphic novel series called 100 Bullets that touched upon this very philosophy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Bullets

The initial plot of 100 Bullets hinges on the question of whether people would take the chance to get away with revenge. The mysterious Agent Graves approaches someone who has been the victim of a terrible wrong. Graves gives them the chance to set things right by providing them a handgun, the eponymous 100 bullets, and documentation of the person primarily and personally responsible for the recipient's woes. He informs the candidate that the bullets are completely untraceable, and any law enforcement investigation that uncovers one of these bullets will immediately stop.

Though all of the murders enabled by Agent Graves are presented as justifiable, the candidates are neither rewarded nor punished for taking up the offer, and appear to receive nothing other than personal satisfaction for their actions. Several people have declined the offer, while others accept. Those that accept see their actions unfold with varying levels of success or failure. The attaché and Graves' "game" is later revealed to be only a minor part of a much broader story.

 

[bcneil]

I think I would in a situation of greatness, like a german soldier trying to kill Hitler.
Cause I know I couldn't kill innocent people because someone ordered me too, leaving the only option of killing them

 

[badbadboy]

I was watching "The Killer Elite" the other night and in one of the final scenes Jason Statham's character states "killing someone is the easy part, living with it is the hard part".

A so called normal person would never be able to do it.

 

[jesuschrist]

I think I would in a situation of greatness, like a german soldier trying to kill Hitler.
Cause I know I couldn't kill innocent people because someone ordered me too, leaving the only option of killing them

Good point.

That inspires me to believe I could myself kill. I would've killed Pickton without much hesitation if the cops hadn't jailed him first. Same for Olsen and the likes of him. I would do it especially if I could get away with it.

 

[ilikegurlz]

Could I kill someone if I was 100% guaranteed I would get away with it??? HELL YES!!!

My list was quite short until I started on this board...but now, for some reason it is getting quite long...

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Very good class!
Lets hear some more opinions.

 

[jesuschrist]

I remember watching a Soprano's episode where Christopher kept seeing the face and having flashbacks of the person he killed. I would never want to live with that.

Yes that would be horrible. Except it wouldn't be so bad if I had to imagine Pickton's eyes popping out of his head as he gasped his last breath with my hands wringing his throat completely shut.... because I just have to look at the photos of the innocent women he murdered as a reminder of what he did and I would have the satisfaction of knowing mine was the last face he saw, and their deaths were avenged.

 

[Monet]

No. I would not.

I've had this conversation with people before over a beer but don't think I've ever seen it posted here.

If you could kill someone and get away with it without any chance of ever getting caught, would you?

Me personally. No. I tend to have a very guilty conscience and even if I didn't get caught, knowing it was wrong, would drive me crazy.
That said I've never hated anyone enough to really want them dead. Perhaps that could change. I've said before that if for example, someone hurt my daughter (assaulted, raped, killed) I very likely would or could but then I really wouldn't care if I got caught.

 

[Lancaster]

It depends on who. Being a vigilante and whacking someone who truly deserved to be killed, eg. serial killers, gangsters, child molesters, etc..... where do I sign up?

Killing someone because they cut you off in traffic or something? That might be harder to justify with your own conscience.

 

[ilikegurlz]

Then you are pretty sad dude. Nothing that transpires on the internet is worth killing for. This is not the real world. Killing someone who raped your wife or daughter, the drunk driver who ran over your mom, these are understandable motivations. Wanting to kill someone due to what's said on an internet board makes you pathetic.

Actually Rancid, the part about this board was a joke regarding some of the "Personalities" here...

But in actual fact the first part about HELL YES is true...

In this hypothetical situation I would have no problem whatsoever about killing...

Paul Bernardo and Karla Holmolka...
Clifford Olsen...
Robert Pickton...
William de Jesus...the nut in Florida who killed a 76 year old Quebec snowbird for his cell phone yesterday...
Any of the gangbangers fighting out their turf wars who kills an innocent bystander...
Any Priest,teacher,scoutmaster who abuses children....

As I said, my list is getting longer...The only reason I haven't gone out to get a Batsuit, Crimefighting Gadgets, and a better Batmobile is because I would probably either get myself thrown in jail or manage to get myself killed!!!

But my answer is still the same...

 

[WWTDD]

I would think no. I always think about how nice it would be to eliminate a dictator like Assad in Syria but then I think about the unindended consequences. Sure I could kill Assad and get away with it and eliminate a bad guy from the world. I could also cause the start of WW 3. Maybe his replacement is worse. You can't predict the future and how things would play out.

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

If someone seriously harmed my daughter, me or a close family member purposely I'd certainly consider it. But it would have to be personal. I wouldn't kill a dictator, or a serial killer a sexual preditor unless they harmed someone I knew and cared about.

But I wouldn't be some vigilante nut trying to solve the worlds problems.

On a side note one of the best books I ever read was called "Cold kill" and it involved a guy who fell in love with a girl who was very disturbed and over time she claimed to be disturbed because her dad was molesting her. So at her request he killed her dad thinking it was the right thing, only to find out afterwards, it was all lies.

He got life in a Texas prison.

 

[ilikegurlz]

Don't forget people...this is a question regarding your own personal morality...

Would you do it if you could get away with it?

I think a fear of going to hell...or my God says not to kill...or I just don't like the thought of violence all come into play, not any repercussions that will happen to you...other than having to look in the mirror everyday.

An earlier poster suggested putting this to an anonymous poll...I think the percentages might be a little different.

Good topic though...