How should we tell you? How blunt can we be?

[TheBellaRoseXo]

Every now and then, SP’s have reason to not offer a usual extra (whether health-related safety/risk management, energy burnout prevention, or a small monthly window (you catch my drift… 😉)).

I’m curious to know how you prefer to be told that a usual on-going extra is off the table for a single/few sessions (the verbiage that inspires more comfort than alarm, in particular), as well as if you prefer the option of another lady volunteered.

Let’s use DATY as an example, as this definitely applies for the “small monthly window”.

*This thread is being written with the understanding that new SP’s and clientele who are unfamiliar with the industry may have similar inquiry in the future.

 

[angry anderson]

"I'm not touching that with a barge pole. "

 

[vanperb]

Every now and then, SP’s have reason to not offer a usual extra (whether health-related safety/risk management, energy burnout prevention, or a small monthly window (you catch my drift…)).

I’m curious to know how you prefer to be told that a usual on-going extra is off the table for a single/few sessions (the verbiage that inspires more comfort than alarm, in particular), as well as if you prefer the option of another lady volunteered.

Let’s use DATY as an example, as this definitely applies.

*This thread is being written with the understanding that new SP’s and clientele who are unfamiliar with the industry may have similar inquiry in the future.

"Sorry, that's not on the menu."
"Sorry, not today. I don't feel safe or right."

It's blunt and honest, but it will probably trigger an adverse response from most men. An alternative question should be:

What should providers says to clients when they don't want to offer an extra that won't trigger them?

I suggest lying.

 

[SirReverence]

For your example specifically, and especially for a pre-booked session, I would prefer a heads up if possible with the option to reschedule. But be honest (within reason), I would hope most would be understanding; unfortunately I can only speak for myself.

 

[skycrush99]

Just be up front assuming you know about it during the booking process.

 

[VinVan]

Like all things in life it’s better to pre-manage expectations.

I’m sure you have a very thorough screening process but this is where I suspect you could take care of 95% of service issues and have minimal blowback.

It’s not practical for all SPs but I think the half service SPs have the best model. Offer HJ and CBJ with the service and any extra is YMMV.

I see one half- service SP and she’s pretty clear about all those restrictions. She’s pretty amazing so she gets a ton of clients for just that. And then during the half service sessions she can suss out the client and see if she’s comfortable with doing more. And she can charge for each extra so she’s getting the best of both worlds. She’s making her rate with extras with the clients she’s comfortable with and for the others is strictly half service and everyone’s expectations are managed. The guys who are getting more feel like they’ve been let past the velvet ropes and turn into loyal clients because they feel special.

Even if you’re a FS provider you can do some variation of this during your screening (no DFK DATY etc) and provide those services to those whom you’re comfortable with. Then there is no need to have the difficult conversations. It’s all taken care of up front and no one should feel entitled to a service that is not even offered.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I just sent Fred my payment. So hopefully I’m not blue for long!

I’ve never been shy, so I just straight up tell people. If it’s a prebooked appointment (sometimes Mother Nature has her own ideas about things), I let them know before they show up and give the option to reschedule if they want to or show up and skip certain activities. If somebody reacts weirdly to my honesty then I know we were never meant to be. I have also just canceled appointments for events outside my control. I always give the option to reschedule. If somebody’s a dick about it, I’d rather not see them anyways. Life is way too short to spend even a moment of it with people who are mean.

 

[TheBellaRoseXo]

Thanks gentlemen. You’ve hit the nail on the head from a variety of angles (especially Harmony 🥰). While I won’t lie to my clients, it’s helpful for everyone to know that:

-Some men openly acknowledge how unsafe/“adverse” reactions may occur with transparency, and that some encourage us to lie for our physical safety (even in the case of temporary, non-personal reasons).
-Mother nature has a mind of its own and sometimes pre-bookings are effected, regardless of excitement for favorite client arrivals.
-Have a thorough, yet concise screening process that lays out everything so there is less chance of incompatibility/disappointment upon arrival.
-Most AMP’s and agencies CANNOT discuss this material because that not what their business is actually licensed for.

 

[MauiMan]

I want to know. Many years ago with a long retired SP, I went down to do my thing, and she responded enthusiastically. Afterward, I stood up and let her relax and have some water, I caught myself in the mirror and I looked like an extra from a horror movie. I earned my red wings oral badge, she was mortified but we managed a laugh or two. She didn't know and I guess it started just before or while I was down there. Plenty of negative STI tests and a couple of decades later, it's a fond memory. I'd much rather know, and waiting a week for an appointment is a whole lot better than any sponge trick or other dodge.

 

[Oldfart]

I want to know. Many years ago with a long retired SP, I went down to do my thing, and she responded enthusiastically. Afterward, I stood up and let her relax and have some water, I caught myself in the mirror and I looked like an extra from a horror movie. I earned my red wings oral badge, she was mortified but we managed a laugh or two. She didn't know and I guess it started just before or while I was down there. Plenty of negative STI tests and a couple of decades later, it's a fond memory. I'd much rather know, and waiting a week for an appointment is a whole lot better than any sponge trick or other dodge.

 

[80watts]

Every now and then, SP’s have reason to not offer a usual extra (whether health-related safety/risk management, energy burnout prevention, or a small monthly window (you catch my drift… 😉)).

I’m curious to know how you prefer to be told that a usual on-going extra is off the table for a single/few sessions (the verbiage that inspires more comfort than alarm, in particular), as well as if you prefer the option of another lady volunteered.

Let’s use DATY as an example, as this definitely applies for the “small monthly window”.

*This thread is being written with the understanding that new SP’s and clientele who are unfamiliar with the industry may have similar inquiry in the future.

You could always start with I'm taking a health day to relieve my emotion stress... or something similar....

 

[phool]

I don't mind directness. Just say if you need to reschedule or if certain things are off the table or whatever. I'm never looking for acronyms or a setlist anyway so I'll just go with the flow (even if it's flow time, lol).

 

[TheBellaRoseXo]

I want to know. Many years ago with a long retired SP, I went down to do my thing, and she responded enthusiastically. Afterward, I stood up and let her relax and have some water, I caught myself in the mirror and I looked like an extra from a horror movie. I earned my red wings oral badge, she was mortified but we managed a laugh or two. She didn't know and I guess it started just before or while I was down there. Plenty of negative STI tests and a couple of decades later, it's a fond memory. I'd much rather know, and waiting a week for an appointment is a whole lot better than any sponge trick or other dodge.

This is definitely many ladies nightmare, including mine. 😂

 

[Harmony-bc]

This is definitely many ladies nightmare, including mine. 😂

The human existence can be so mortifying sometimes!! Especially when we’re paid to be sexy. Hahaha

 

[Harmony-bc]

I don't mind directness. Just say if you need to reschedule or if certain things are off the table or whatever. I'm never looking for acronyms or a setlist anyway so I'll just go with the flow (even if it's flow time, lol).

You are my favorite type of client 💕💕💕

 

[Claire Monet]

tldr


"No."

Complete and concise.

 

[carvesg]

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Came off your shelf ??? Keeping it handy !?!? 👍

 

[Bang4thebuck]

If something can't be done, I'd prefer to know asap. I don't need the details. I just don't want to show up and be denied a service that was promised when I booked nor do I want to feel like I've been flaked on if a SP just stops responding rather than telling me she's not available anymore. Some respect goes a long way. I think a lot of girls just view their clients as losers with a bag of money who aren't worthy of respect and it shows in how they treat them, but it's more a reflection of themselves as people.

 

[midnightsunset]

Like all things in life it’s better to pre-manage expectations.

I’m sure you have a very thorough screening process but this is where I suspect you could take care of 95% of service issues and have minimal blowback.

It’s not practical for all SPs but I think the half service SPs have the best model. Offer HJ and CBJ with the service and any extra is YMMV.

I see one half- service SP and she’s pretty clear about all those restrictions. She’s pretty amazing so she gets a ton of clients for just that. And then during the half service sessions she can suss out the client and see if she’s comfortable with doing more. And she can charge for each extra so she’s getting the best of both worlds. She’s making her rate with extras with the clients she’s comfortable with and for the others is strictly half service and everyone’s expectations are managed. The guys who are getting more feel like they’ve been let past the velvet ropes and turn into loyal clients because they feel special.

Even if you’re a FS provider you can do some variation of this during your screening (no DFK DATY etc) and provide those services to those whom you’re comfortable with. Then there is no need to have the difficult conversations. It’s all taken care of up front and no one should feel entitled to a service that is not even offered.

Can you please DM me this half service provider name?

 

[Larry's Torch]

I want to know. Many years ago with a long retired SP, I went down to do my thing, and she responded enthusiastically. Afterward, I stood up and let her relax and have some water, I caught myself in the mirror and I looked like an extra from a horror movie. I earned my red wings oral badge, she was mortified but we managed a laugh or two. She didn't know and I guess it started just before or while I was down there. Plenty of negative STI tests and a couple of decades later, it's a fond memory. I'd much rather know, and waiting a week for an appointment is a whole lot better than any sponge trick or other dodge.

This is definitely many ladies nightmare, including mine. 😂

Pretty much describes my very FIRST civvie sexual encounter decades ago. We were both shocked beyond belief. Seriously, the bed and shower looked like a crime scene. Surprisingly enough it never deterred me from years of DATY. Although I did take the time to ensure the 'timing' was right.

Meanwhile back on topic: A timely text with a brief explanation that certain activities would not be available and the option to resched if desired.