You're 100 percent correct. It is an outdated, ridiculous double standard.
And it IS total bullshit from an Insecure, Sexist Pig.
How's that, Chevy? LOL
How many guys has your gf had sex with before you?
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You're 100 percent correct. It is an outdated, ridiculous double standard.
And it IS total bullshit from an Insecure, Sexist Pig.
How's that, Chevy? LOL
Thats right I realized later i worded it wrong, i'm not embarrassed or proud, i don't care! Thankfully I came out clean and thats all that matters.You may not be "proud" of it, but neither should you be embarrassed about it. You wouldn't hear too many guys calling themselves sluts. Studs yes. So that would make you a ... studette? Good on ya!
lol this is me too, except I went celibate for 1 year periods at a time, inbetween all the years that I was fucking around. I would have mood swings and sometimes be extremely horny, or a completely dried up prude. I had a list too but I lost it a long time ago =(When I was a teen, I observed how easily guys could pick up girls, have sex with them, drop them and move on to the next one, so I figured I'd do the same. Between age 17 - 23 I kept a list, and had seduced over 100 guys (casual sex, not work) when I quit counting. Made a choice to remain celibate for 12 long years between divorces, then started working as a SP at age 45.
How's that for unique? lol
fully agreed
totally agree with all of this, especially the part in bold
I used to watch that old lady on TV who was a sex educator, and spent years and years reading and researching all about sexual health and sexual behavior. I was always truly fascinated by it.
why do you even bother with this guy? lol i know its fun sometimes and entertaining, but hes not even worth getting your feathers ruffled over, i read somewhere in one of these threads that he asked a lady for free domme service! thats a total scumbag in my books, not worthy of any discussion anymore.You're 100 percent correct. It is an outdated, ridiculous double standard.
And it IS total bullshit from an Insecure, Sexist Pig.
Sing loud, sing it proud woman!Your attitude is what makes it harder for guys and what causes that shield to be up! In other words, you're cock blocking yourself/selves.
Common sense, really. Sheesh.
The double standard is completely silly, and yes, women want sex, some of us just as much as men. We just need you to go about it in a different way. It takes more than a boner poking me in the back for morning sex, even with my SO. I'd say a woman wanting to be charmed is on par with a man wanting a PSE fantasy. Give and take yo.
Sue! She was on the Sunday night sex show! Loved that! And Showcase late night.totally agree with all of this, especially the part in bold
I was totally the only child with the liberal mother who wanted me to know all the right names/have complete comfort regarding sex.
I was dating a"retired" sp back in the 80's and was okay with all her past partners, I don't feel I had any hangups. When her roomate phoned to tell me she was still working monday-thursday, I worked out of town, I broke up with her. Wound up with a son out of the deal so it wasn't all bad.
I posted what I said as a means of discussion of the realities for some folk, not as an airing out of my own personal needs. But your response takes a very personal viewpoint and addresses what I said as though they were my own personal requirements. Unfortunately you've rather missed the point and wasted your time, because none of what you said offers me much in terms of advice as it doesn't apply to me.That's all fine but it won't stop me from pointing out how retarded it is.
They don't deserve someone who prefers to live and enjoy life. I just have to say that it says a lot about you and your beliefs that you would compare a past that includes sexual experience to one that includes with physical abuse, or that you consider a past that includes bankruptcy, a previous marriage or sex as relevant in any way to whether or not to pursue things with someone you otherwise find compatible. That's pretty amazing to me. I'm sure you'll find a similarly judgemental and shallow woman.. Let's just hope you meet *her* criteria.. the whole list of criteria. But don't complain when you realize she's not much more interested in sex with you than she was before she met you.
A much more probing question is: How may guys has your wife had sex with after you married her?
I don't think it's particularly important in this day and age how many partners a woman (or man) has had. That said, I can understand how some men can be alarmed by what they perceive as high numbers. I can also see how it's a touchy subject for some women. I believe that these attitudes are more than merely the result of "slut shaming", which is often perpetuated by women as well as by men. I think these feelings largely arise from human evolution.
Historically, men who paid closer attention to their mate's interactions with other males probably enjoyed greater parental certainty and were able to invest their time and energy caring for and preparing their own offspring for the future. As a result they likely had more surviving offspring. Over the generations this tendency has become widespread and manifests as insecurity in relation to female promiscuity. This tendency is not universal because there were some males who were themselves promiscuous and sired offspring from many women. Such men would likely not have invested enough time in any one of those women to be particularly concerned about parental certainty.
For women historically it was important to both secure quality genes for their offspring and to secure assistance and resources from one or more males to successfully raise her offspring. The former was accomplished by seeking out attractive mates, and the latter by seeking out mates who were willing and able to invest time and resources in raising her offspring. It was not always easy to find a single mate who met both criteria so females who were able to secure resources from one mate and quality genetic material from another likely had the most surviving offspring. The mates most likely to provide resources were likely those who were not overly insecure about female promiscuity or who's insecurities could be easily managed.
Now I am not claiming that either gender were even aware that they were doing these things, merely that people who followed these behavioral patterns likely had more surviving offspring and their decedents likely represent a large proportion of the population today. These tendencies will likely dissipate over subsequent generations given the advent of readily available birth control technologies and paternity testing that largely negate the evolutionary advantage of such behavioral patterns. In the meantime I think that men and women should try to be more understanding of one another and try not to judge them to harshly for behaving in a manner that is largely built into their DNA.
Historically, men who paid closer attention to their mate's interactions with other males probably enjoyed greater parental certainty and were able to invest their time and energy caring for and preparing their own offspring for the future. As a result they likely had more surviving offspring. Over the generations this tendency has become widespread and manifests as insecurity in relation to female promiscuity. This tendency is not universal because there were some males who were themselves promiscuous and sired offspring from many women. Such men would likely not have invested enough time in any one of those women to be particularly concerned about parental certainty.
For women historically it was important to both secure quality genes for their offspring and to secure assistance and resources from one or more males to successfully raise her offspring. The former was accomplished by seeking out attractive mates, and the latter by seeking out mates who were willing and able to invest time and resources in raising her offspring. It was not always easy to find a single mate who met both criteria so females who were able to secure resources from one mate and quality genetic material from another likely had the most surviving offspring. The mates most likely to provide resources were likely those who were not overly insecure about female promiscuity or who's insecurities could be easily managed.
Now I am not claiming that either gender were even aware that they were doing these things, merely that people who followed these behavioral patterns likely had more surviving offspring and their decedents likely represent a large proportion of the population today. These tendencies will likely dissipate over subsequent generations given the advent of readily available birth control technologies and paternity testing that largely negate the evolutionary advantage of such behavioral patterns. In the meantime I think that men and women should try to be more understanding of one another and try not to judge them to harshly for behaving in a manner that is largely built into their DNA.
I don't know if I agree with you or not ^ - it sounds like a good theory
but its just that, a theory/hypothesis, right? theres no real scientific data that this is happening?
i think cultural customs and behavior has more to do with it than genetics...
You're right it's mainly theoretical. It's obviously difficult to research things that happen over many generations. But I think that the fact that these attitudes have been common in many cultures around the world that had minimal contact with each other until quite recently lends in favor of the theory that they have at least partly biological origins.
Look at the OPs posting history, all he ever does is post these stupid questions, It is just Joe45/Toblerony back to troll.
Good for you that it doesn't apply to you. My point still stands as it applies to whoever believes in what you said as a means of discussion. I'm not sure I buy it because it sounds like many of the opinions you've shared about sex and other sexual experience but it doesn't matter, as it is clearly what the OP thinks and he isn't the only one to hold these beliefs. As with a lot of my posts, I use 'you' to refer to more than just you specifically or solely. It refers to anyone who shares those beliefs.
OMG ... I had soo much sex when I was married ... lol
From 17 to 30 I only had sex with 5 guys. I was always in longer-term relationships and I was faithful to them. I had less sex than all my 20something friends. Then I got MARRIED, and introduced to the SWINGER lifestyle. He thought I would be better in bed after I experienced at least 30 guys and a few girls ... ba-haha! It was only after we split that I realised some of the most beautiful and sexiest girls were escorts.
But seriously, how would any of the people on this site know what the average young woman does?
From 17 to 30 I only had sex with 5 guys. I was always in longer-term relationships and I was faithful to them. I had less sex than all my 20something friends. Then I got MARRIED, and introduced to the SWINGER lifestyle. He thought I would be better in bed after I experienced at least 30 guys and a few girls ... ba-haha! It was only after we split that I realised some of the most beautiful and sexiest girls were escorts.
But seriously, how would any of the people on this site know what the average young woman does?
Yeah! who counts anyway? I sure don't...
Personally, I stopped counting a long time ago. it's easier that way.
Your turn.
BJ
I don't know. My gf shared everything. her first time was at 17 with a group of 5 guys. she was not prepared for it, did not even want it. but her "slut" image worked towards her detriment. she was in abusive relationship for a bit and then led a promiscuous lifestyle for long (had a target of having more partners than her age). That was a dangerous and self-sabotaging lifestyle.
I did the same. shared with her.
We both are okay with our pasts, accept out flaws and mistakes. She is faithful to me and is very serious about the relationship. Enjoys sex with me
She says that it is the best she has ever had, and I didn't take it at face value until I actually took her to new levels (made her squirt). But still doesn't matter. Its past.
I never liked the term "slut" when used in derogatory manner. A lot of people dehumanize with that term. Look at a girl like piece of meat and don't give the respect she deserves. That is not healthy. Girls who consider that power (like my gf did in past) end up scarred and jaded. Guys who do that are mere animals (me in past)
I did the same. shared with her.
We both are okay with our pasts, accept out flaws and mistakes. She is faithful to me and is very serious about the relationship. Enjoys sex with me
She says that it is the best she has ever had, and I didn't take it at face value until I actually took her to new levels (made her squirt). But still doesn't matter. Its past.
I never liked the term "slut" when used in derogatory manner. A lot of people dehumanize with that term. Look at a girl like piece of meat and don't give the respect she deserves. That is not healthy. Girls who consider that power (like my gf did in past) end up scarred and jaded. Guys who do that are mere animals (me in past)
