Ohhhh I just read something dumber, your post, I didn't say don't contribute to the board at all. I just feel that if she has nothing but disdain for the review process and doesn't wish to participate in that aspect of the board she should refrain from offering her opinions in that aspect as well........But I thank you for your learned opinion.luv-em-n-lv-em said:
How do SP's view PERB?
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So she can contribute to the board only on topics where she participates in/experiences reality in the same way that the majority does? Sounds like a slippery slope to me. Pretty soon everyone will be singing from the same song book. Boring!athaire said:
Maybe I didn't spell it out enough for you. Regardless of her opinion (unless it is over the line like hate crimes or inciting a riot), I believe she should be encouraged to make any post she wants on any topic in the Lounge. If she violates some board rules in the process she may suffer the consequences. If she violates your holier-than-thou attitude, I say go for it!
To be completely clear, disdain is just as valid an opinion as any other. If anything, her opinion is more valuable than yours because you have lots of company in your beliefs.
As for "learned opinion" - sorry, I'm not going to fall for that. I don't care if someone has spent a lot of time studying philosophy, ethics, blah, blah, blah. I just like a discussion that covers as much ground as possible. That and being around people who can (at least briefly) consider points of view radically different from their own.
The fact that I am generally more in agreement with your opinions than hers is completely besides the point.
And by the way, the thread title would suggest that she is being welcomed to this discussion. She is an SP and she is telling us what she thinks of PERB. If you don't want to hear from her or anyone else for whatever reason - too bad!
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No big fella it makes sense... and thank you for saying "any topic in the lounge", I agree have at it. When it comes to reviews, which last time I checked, they are not posted in the lounge and so she has no reason to be reading or posting to them. She after all doesn't like them at all right? Of course this is where you bash me for saying don't post anywhere on the board again right?
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I couldn’t agree more. The best SP’s are the ones who do their homework. I’ve been lurking on here for a quite a while, and it’s taught me many things about what men want, and that’s my job…to give men pleasure.TotallyTouchin said:
I’m not working at the moment, but can’t wait to utilize this site when I do (being a paying advertisee of course) =)
I think there was a compliment in there! I admit, this is indeed all a bit new to me but I sure see a lot of contradictory stuff in posts from people - particularly those who seem to hate everything about this board but seemingly can't stay away from viewing and posting on it.Creole Lady Marmalade said:
If you don't like something, leave it alone! All of those who are complaining about those who find this place useful then come to associate with us? Sounds like some people have pretty screwed up lives with way too much time on their hands.
I think although she chooses not to see Perbs or be reviewed, she has a right to tell her opinion here because she is part of this industry as we all are. (us not you) What happens in it is her business, thus she's opinion entitled and should respectfully participate as she wishes.hedgeman said:
Although I've taken some heat about this, let me be clear......she has every right to state her opinions on any subject she wishs. I feel that due to her disapproval of reveiws that she should refrain from comment in reviews as she has made it clear she has no wish to participate in that activity.ihatemyskirt said:
I'm curious though skirt? How are we not part of this business???? The client is the reason your in business. Or am I mistaken?
My opinion
Personally, I have mixed feelings about perb.
On the one hand, it is a fantastic tool for both the ladies and the gents. I seldom post, but often read. The guys can read about the ladies; what other fellows have said about them, what (and how) the ladies themselves post, the good and the bad. It is a very good source of info to help one decide who they'd like to visit.
I have met some really fantastic people because of the board, and for that I'm really grateful that it's here.
I appreciate that some of the gents I've seen have posted reviews of their experiences, and I can appreciate the perspective of those who won't. Reviews are good for exposure, and are often very entertaining. At the very least, it brings a big smile with good memories of a fun encounter. But yes, it can be disconcerting to read intimate details about one's self, knowing that thousands of others are reading it too.
For those guys that contact me via perb (or who will own up to a perb ID when they contact me other ways), I am able to see their posting style, reviews (if any), general attitude... this can give me a little bit of insight into their character and can allow me a bit of information to help me decide if it is someone I want to see. Most though, either don't have a handle or won't admit to it, so this is rather limited.
I really enjoy the "community" aspect of perb. Whatever else members have going on in their lives, they all have at least this one thing in common.
The Health Nurse forum is a GREAT addition.
There are certainly more lurkers than posters reading the board, and the overwhelming majority of men I see say that they read but don't post... not the type to "kiss and tell". They tell me they are glad to have perb as a resource but don't wish to participate.
The downside, as I see it, is that there is a big steaming pile of negativity here, and for the ladies especially, it seems risky to post. It often seems to invite attack from (some of) the guys... just by virtue of being here. I've heard this from some men, too. They will have something to say about a topic, and would like to share their perspective, but they won't post because they've seen how others have been insulted, attacked, or drawn otherwise negative responses, so they won't bother - it's not worth it.
For myself, I prefer to keep a low profile. I used to post a lot more, but more often than not, even if I begin a reply to something, I will delete rather than post. I do feel that my opinions and perspectives have merit, but I will often reply to a post via pm rather than posting in a thread. Maybe it's "just a few bad apples", but there seems to be a lot of poison on the board.
I've said this before: I wish everybody here would try to remember this is all supposed to be about fun & pleasure. I just don't see any place here for hatred, bullying, or harrassment.
Personally, I have mixed feelings about perb.
On the one hand, it is a fantastic tool for both the ladies and the gents. I seldom post, but often read. The guys can read about the ladies; what other fellows have said about them, what (and how) the ladies themselves post, the good and the bad. It is a very good source of info to help one decide who they'd like to visit.
I have met some really fantastic people because of the board, and for that I'm really grateful that it's here.
I appreciate that some of the gents I've seen have posted reviews of their experiences, and I can appreciate the perspective of those who won't. Reviews are good for exposure, and are often very entertaining. At the very least, it brings a big smile with good memories of a fun encounter. But yes, it can be disconcerting to read intimate details about one's self, knowing that thousands of others are reading it too.
For those guys that contact me via perb (or who will own up to a perb ID when they contact me other ways), I am able to see their posting style, reviews (if any), general attitude... this can give me a little bit of insight into their character and can allow me a bit of information to help me decide if it is someone I want to see. Most though, either don't have a handle or won't admit to it, so this is rather limited.
I really enjoy the "community" aspect of perb. Whatever else members have going on in their lives, they all have at least this one thing in common.
The Health Nurse forum is a GREAT addition.
There are certainly more lurkers than posters reading the board, and the overwhelming majority of men I see say that they read but don't post... not the type to "kiss and tell". They tell me they are glad to have perb as a resource but don't wish to participate.
The downside, as I see it, is that there is a big steaming pile of negativity here, and for the ladies especially, it seems risky to post. It often seems to invite attack from (some of) the guys... just by virtue of being here. I've heard this from some men, too. They will have something to say about a topic, and would like to share their perspective, but they won't post because they've seen how others have been insulted, attacked, or drawn otherwise negative responses, so they won't bother - it's not worth it.
For myself, I prefer to keep a low profile. I used to post a lot more, but more often than not, even if I begin a reply to something, I will delete rather than post. I do feel that my opinions and perspectives have merit, but I will often reply to a post via pm rather than posting in a thread. Maybe it's "just a few bad apples", but there seems to be a lot of poison on the board.
I've said this before: I wish everybody here would try to remember this is all supposed to be about fun & pleasure. I just don't see any place here for hatred, bullying, or harrassment.
Dea, you have said so much, so well. It sure is a difficult thing to have to have to 'come out of the Perb closet' to an SP. You might NOT get seen, or you might get YMMA.DeaAphrodite said:
Equally its difficult for SP to post.
Its a hell of a situation. I enjoy 'chat' with most folks here, it gives me an insight into the personallity of the SP. Its important to me as I view the experience with most SPs to be much more than just sex. For straight sex there are SW's MP's etc. But for most on this board - I like the idea of knowing the person abit.
As for reviews well now that's another ballgame. With out them where would we be? But on the other hand if there is a 'bad experience' (if there is such a thing) is it chemistry? Is it personalities? Or is it someone just being malicious? Or is it a bad experience?
I am of the mind to not post a bad review as it could have been as much my fault as hers. But if I post a glowing review for one and not the rest, how is that for fairness?
Its a tough matter
The problem is the same as with all internet forums, no matter what the topic.DeaAphrodite said:
There is always the element who feel empowered by the ability to seek target and lock-on with flaming. It gives them a sense of identity.
The cyberspace violence they engage in would not be possible in the real world, but they take what they do online very seriously. This, in effect, becomes their "real world".
The majority of Perb users are still those who come here for the information resource, and yes, most are infrequent posters. (It's always interesting to see posters who pop up with several years history, but only a handful of posts in that time.)
The criminal (if the violence they do here were in the real world) element is much more visible than the silent majority, due to their hunger for empowerment.
So don't worry about the circus sideshows, just ignore them and deprive them of the gratification they seek.
just how would you know if i was from perb, terb, vrrb, terf or any other board? i don't tell anyone that. how would you know?LargeLips said:I for one, don't see perbs, or any other review board members for that matter. And you don't see women that don't want to get reviewed. To each their ownIt's all good. I prefer to keep it that way, as I feel that what goes on between me and a person, should be between us only. Being critiqued in a good or bad way is NOT a turn on for me. I don't "cater" to the review board clientele, and that suits me just fine. Not every client or woman working, is a member of a board. I prefer to keep my life, my clients that way (to myself and not the masses)
DeaAphrodite said:
Well said, I often laugh at what gets posted. I don't take anything personally, as I don't know 99% of you. I also think there is a large range of people on the board from young to old, from smart to dumb!!!! That is why I don't take everything seriously. And with that said, there is nobody I hate, (I am starting to hate the new guy CheeseBurgers, as every time I see his name I get hungry) But other than that I like to see what people post, and love to see when there are 2- 3- 4 sides to a story.
People get all upset at some language that is used, on the board but often it is the same language used in a regular conversation (off-line), just that on the board you don't see the person smiling
, laughing or drooling when they write, so people often take it the wrong way. If it helps anyone, when you are upset, send me a PM or call me at 555-1212, I love it, and I promise you I will still sleep at night, just as I always do, my ass up in the air.
I have my wayssmackyo said:
A few other postings in some other threads make me thank my lucky stars I choose to work, and advertise elsewhere. In my opinion some seem to get offended that I don't see people that review or want to be reviewed. The way I look at it is this: my life, my way of working, my way to do what I want, when I want, with WHO I want. No need to stress, or grow grey hair. People make their own decisions, take it or leave it.
