Is the national guard all under state control or does the president have any say there? I forget
Hello the western world.....wake up
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Nope. They were as reasonable and open-minded as any of the good Christian folk I grew up around. They had the same kinds of hopes and worries as everyone else. They took their jobs seriously. They were good company to drink with on Friday nights. The idea there is some monolithic force of MUSLIMS with identical extremist aims is pure and utter bullshit created by the fear industry that you obviously subscribe to. I was treated more politely and welcomed into the town in a way that would never happen in Kapuscasing, say. There were brief "troubles" between a Christian neighbourhood and fundamentalist Muslims in one of the cities during the time I lived there, but accurate accounts were hard to come by. I never witnessed an act of violence.
In recent decades, I recall terrorist bombings by Christian White Separatists that killed hundreds of people in Kansas, Fundamentalist Christian cults killing themselves and their children, Sikhs methodically bombing Air India planes, two tribes of Christians in Rwanda massacreing each other, Tamils vs. Buddhist Sri Lankans. There are atrocities committed by every group and religion -- Moslems have no exclusive claims to barbarism.
You can only have gleaned your ideas from our friend, the internet and/or frothing at the mouth talking heads.
The "West" will be lost when those with the money decide that it will be more profitable to cultivate markets in other areas of the world, not because we are going to be overrun by Islam.
And -- I am not a "pseudo-liberal." I am the real thing. I subscribe to the idea that good change can benefit the world, and that maybe, what-the-heck, why not try?
So they were about as Muslim as the jews who eat bacon double cheeseburgers are jewish, right?
"As Muslim as Obama" is an expression that I hear often to describe non-practicing muslims.
Yep -- that's what I'm saying. Or as Christian as the hate-spewing evangelists like Jerry Falwell. Just saying that people -- including Muslims -- do not fit into a neat package. They would go to mosque during the day on Fridays, too. Or more specifically, just like the average self-identified Christians here who do not let it rule every aspact of their lives.
Of course there are problems with Fundamentalists of all kinds. We need to guard against them. Where we live, I am more worried about Christo-fascists that have an actual influence over how I am allowed to live my life.
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Glad to see someone has experienced other cultures and has perspective. This is sadly lacking in some of the posters here.
There are facists everywhere. And the media loves to show them on TV, so people watch their soap commercials. Politicians exploit this to the extreme, fear is everywhere. And they get money from us without protest.
Just about every culture has a similar mix of decent people and assholes. Except Methodmen -- I hate those bastards, every one of them.
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Islamofascists are not a "group of nuts with wacky ideas". This is a not so amorphous movement which encompasses a Muslim intent to dominate not only the Mideast and North Africa but the democratic West. The Koran and Hadiths are utilized as a source of their rationale. The means of murder does not matter; in fact, the more terrorizing the better. The purpose is domination of Islam. While Hank Quinlan has had many good experiences in the Mideast amongst Muslims, this personalizes the issue too much. A terrorist thrives if just 5% of his associates are with him. Many Muslims are, themselves, caught in in this violent net. Muslims have murdered each other in far greater numbers than they have murdered non-Muslims. The sad situation in the West is that many people are so in love with their liberal ethic, "PeaceGuy", that it blinds them to the real threat confronting their own societies.
I have never heard of members of the Church of Latter Day Saints ever advocating violent domination of non-Mormons nor terrorist acts of any kind whatsoever, "PeaceGuy". In fact, that would be absolutely against the Church's principle. As to the "true way", many religions and religious leaders believe that they possess the "true way". If you don't like what these respective religions propose, stay away.
I never said it was in the Mideast; I just said in a Muslim society (which ranges from Indonesia to Senegal). The point was that all issues are personal, and that demonizing any group always leads to bad things. If I was an Iraqi, a Pakistani, an Iranian, an Afghan, etc., it would be a huge daily concern (but which I couldn't do much about). In North America, it is pretty low on my list of priorities. We are not going to be dominated by Islamic invaders, It is, however, a very handy issue for the fear-mongering socialist-funded military-industrial-political complex to divert us from our own problems and keep their profits soaring.
Quotes from Wikipidia. Concerning the LDS oath of vengeance, that sounds a lot like Jihad:
"After the death of Joseph Smith, Jr., Brigham Young added an Oath of vengeance to the Nauvoo Endowment ritual. Participants in the ritual made an oath to pray that God would "avenge the blood of the prophets on this nation". "The prophets" were Joseph and Hyrum Smith, and "this nation" was the United States. This oath was removed from the ceremony during the 1920s. In 1877, Brigham Young noted what he viewed as a similarity between Joseph Smith's death and the blood atonement doctrine, in that "whether we believe in blood atonement or not", Joseph and other prophets "sealed their testimony with their blood."
Concerning the Mountain Meadows massacre:
"The Mountain Meadows massacre of September 11, 1857 was widely blamed on the church's teachings of blood atonement and other anti-United States rhetoric by LDS Church leaders during the Utah War. The widely-publicized massacre was a mass killing of Arkansan emigrants by a Mormon militia led by prominent Mormon leader John D. Lee, who was later executed for his role in the killings. After escalating rumors that some of the emigrants had participated in early Mormon persecution, the militia conducted a siege, and when the emigrants surrendered, the militia killed men, women, and children in cold blood, adopted some of the surviving children, and attempted a cover-up."
In the present day, a lot of homosexuals feel persecuted and terrorized by the LDS, due to their institutionalized hate of homosexuals as manifested by the support of Proposition 8 in California.
Doesn't seem much different from any other terrorist-supporting fucked-up religion to me. Anybody that thinks they know "the true way" always represents a danger to their neighbours. Time to invade Utah, I reckon.
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Juniper, muslim kill 2 many muslim even in Iran Iraq war becoz USA they create the war an they make fundy fund for both a sides. USA is enemy in foreign policy
Juniper, muslim kill 2 many muslim even in Iran Iraq war becoz USA they create the war an they make fundy fund for both a sides. USA is enemy in foreign policy
