guys that pick up SWs: dirty dogs or no?
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my final hi-jack on this meandering thread...
Boys, please...you could own a country but it doesn't change the fact that pussy rules the world.
Boys, please...you could own a country but it doesn't change the fact that pussy rules the world.
I post every once in a while, participate in the hobby once in a while and read the board more than is healthy. I often wonder what powers this board -- search for companionship, lust, etc, etc...
It's funny how all these threads eventually turn into anger. VV started her posts as the sexually agressive vixen who loved sex for sex's sake. Fast forward a few months and we can see the anger. Conversly, when VV starts calling a spade a spade the knives come out.
Anyone who is picking up streetwalkers and bargaining them down for a quick BJ is exploiting people in need. Now we all exploit those among us so I'm not saying I'm any better but anyone with a modicum of education or experience in the area of street prostitution knows that what VV is saying is the truth.
I also find it funny that the best insult most can come up with when taking on VV is to call her a hooker and dismiss her choice in life as being degrading when she is the one taking, not giving, the money.
It's funny how all these threads eventually turn into anger. VV started her posts as the sexually agressive vixen who loved sex for sex's sake. Fast forward a few months and we can see the anger. Conversly, when VV starts calling a spade a spade the knives come out.
Anyone who is picking up streetwalkers and bargaining them down for a quick BJ is exploiting people in need. Now we all exploit those among us so I'm not saying I'm any better but anyone with a modicum of education or experience in the area of street prostitution knows that what VV is saying is the truth.
I also find it funny that the best insult most can come up with when taking on VV is to call her a hooker and dismiss her choice in life as being degrading when she is the one taking, not giving, the money.
It's the taking that is degrading. I can go to a club, drop hundreds on lap dancers... hit up an SP and stick my cock in her for chump change... it's nothin' to me. It doesn't degrad me in the slightest. I've got real girls going on dates with me all the time (including tonight), who cares if I choose to sample what's out there on the pay-scene once in awhile? It's no skin off my nose. But taking money to offer up your mouth, ass and pussy to whoever comes along? Well the same can't be said about that...lenharper said:
As is always the case, it turns out most of these "independent providers" are scarred, emotional wrecks, lashing out, desperately trying to rationalize what they've done with their lives... and of course there is no way to do that. It's your life, your choices. I've made mine and I can very happily live with them. The anger that bubbles under the surface of many of the SPs on this board seems to suggest that they are not in the same boat. Enjoy those hundreds girls... you've got a few years left to make them, then it's back to your old white trash life.
veronica i'm not judging what you do nor am i judging what guys who pick up street walkers do. but i think the point that is trying to be made is this. your above quote if thats really how you feel is very self serving and i guess it comes down to this. if you are going to judge guys that pic up street walkers and you are concerned for their social well being then maybe with all this extra time you have because of the profession you have chosen, then maybe you should volunteer to help these people you are concerned about.Very Veronica said:
you could also with all this extra time go to school for two years and get some kind of degree where you could also be involved with these issues and still work your escort thing on the side and contribute for the greater good of society. i think the anger you are getting from members on here is you judging them when if you are not on the front lines for this cause helping streetwalkers but essentially in the same industry is seen as being very judgemental and hypicritical.
Ghostie:
I understand exactly what you are saying. I've lived thru a couple of case studies myself. and reading stories from, and about, sex workers for years there are few exceptions to the rule that you have pointed out. There is delusion of major proportions going on in the lives of many people in the sex industry (ever read raw talent by jerry butler? -- even the hetro male players are not immune to it) and for most that illusion of being in control of one's destiny does disappear and desperation and bitterness takes hold.
I also understand that dropping a five or ten g's a year on paid companions is no biggie, done it myself, but I had to stop when I no longer felt like a winner simply because I had the financial wherewithal to do that. It wasn't exactly a case of self loathing (i hate myself becuase i have to pay for it) because that wasn't the case. I got involved with sex workers, escorts, whores (whatever they wanted to be called) because I wanted to walk on the wild side and also enjoyed the idea of sex where compassion and love was not an issue -- in fact the emotions involved were often the complete opposite.
It was a trip. But I felt I had to get out when the thoughts that I am a superior human being (certainly more superior than these women) began to take over and I began to believe that simply because of choices I had made in my life (good job, tons of cash, yada, yada yada) and I began to devalue them as fellow human beings. When I started to do that I was becoming something I didn't like so I tried to stop.
I know that sounds pretty gay but I'm getting older. I still indulge once in a while but when I do I look for women more like VV who understand the anger and hate that is inherent in any "pay for play relationship" than women who I percieve to be completely helpless to change their circumstance.
I understand exactly what you are saying. I've lived thru a couple of case studies myself. and reading stories from, and about, sex workers for years there are few exceptions to the rule that you have pointed out. There is delusion of major proportions going on in the lives of many people in the sex industry (ever read raw talent by jerry butler? -- even the hetro male players are not immune to it) and for most that illusion of being in control of one's destiny does disappear and desperation and bitterness takes hold.
I also understand that dropping a five or ten g's a year on paid companions is no biggie, done it myself, but I had to stop when I no longer felt like a winner simply because I had the financial wherewithal to do that. It wasn't exactly a case of self loathing (i hate myself becuase i have to pay for it) because that wasn't the case. I got involved with sex workers, escorts, whores (whatever they wanted to be called) because I wanted to walk on the wild side and also enjoyed the idea of sex where compassion and love was not an issue -- in fact the emotions involved were often the complete opposite.
It was a trip. But I felt I had to get out when the thoughts that I am a superior human being (certainly more superior than these women) began to take over and I began to believe that simply because of choices I had made in my life (good job, tons of cash, yada, yada yada) and I began to devalue them as fellow human beings. When I started to do that I was becoming something I didn't like so I tried to stop.
I know that sounds pretty gay but I'm getting older. I still indulge once in a while but when I do I look for women more like VV who understand the anger and hate that is inherent in any "pay for play relationship" than women who I percieve to be completely helpless to change their circumstance.
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"Boys, please...you could own a country but it doesn't change the fact that pussy rules the world" by VV.
I don't think it rules the world, I think to some affect it rules men's brains though. After all, men still rule the world don't you know that VV? Women's lib has come a long way but men still dominate the majority of high-ranking powerful positions so suck on that.
Also, how do you know that alot of the high ranking SP's haven't suffered the same kind of abuse as the SW types? In the end, you could unknowingly be screwing someone that has suffered abuse unless she admits it to you (but how many are going to really open up that can of worms to strangers). I think pooners are different that the people who intentionally inflict physical and emotional harm on others, those are the real sickos. I agree it is not great to know you might be perpetuating the abuse cycle, so I guess we should all abstain from sexual relations with anybody who has suffered abuse. Eventually, I believe the only person that can stop the abuse sometimes is their own will to change or seek help. If they didn't get money from selling sex, they would be robbing or stealing to get their fix. I am not saying pooners aren't part of the problem but eliminating us from the equation probably won't change the world a whole lot.
I don't think it rules the world, I think to some affect it rules men's brains though. After all, men still rule the world don't you know that VV? Women's lib has come a long way but men still dominate the majority of high-ranking powerful positions so suck on that.
Also, how do you know that alot of the high ranking SP's haven't suffered the same kind of abuse as the SW types? In the end, you could unknowingly be screwing someone that has suffered abuse unless she admits it to you (but how many are going to really open up that can of worms to strangers). I think pooners are different that the people who intentionally inflict physical and emotional harm on others, those are the real sickos. I agree it is not great to know you might be perpetuating the abuse cycle, so I guess we should all abstain from sexual relations with anybody who has suffered abuse. Eventually, I believe the only person that can stop the abuse sometimes is their own will to change or seek help. If they didn't get money from selling sex, they would be robbing or stealing to get their fix. I am not saying pooners aren't part of the problem but eliminating us from the equation probably won't change the world a whole lot.
Oh to hear VV's true personal thoughts about all the pathetic souls know as men she sees to service.Very Veronica said:
How sad she must think they are, the way they enslave themselves to the charms of women... such pathetic beings they must be.
Life according to VV?
Men are like carpets... lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them for the rest of their lives.
Pathetic little boys, line up on the right with money in hand.
LOL... I love it.
VV is exploiting men in need {testosterone addicts} by taking their hardlenharper said:
earned dollars with her pussy & ass hole.
Something that most women do in one way or another, whether it be by
getting free drinks at a bar or whatever.
Streetwalkers do the same thing.
TV commercials exploit people in need of shampoo, beer & wonderbra.
Safeway exploits people with stomachs.
If you weren't out there she might get a bad date or a Paul BernardoHatrick said:
type instead. I will go out on a limb & say SWs are glad to get you.
To each his/her own I say.
I frequent the SW because I didn't get in this game to help make someone else rich. Handing over 300 bones for such a feeble amount of work goes against my ways. I don't need any GFE or affection, don't get me wrong I like all that stuff but want it to be with a real GF. Just wham bam thank ya mam. For 10 min it's only worth a couple green IMO.
I'm retired from SP's for a few years now. Haven't spent more than 3 greens on one chick in that time.
I frequent the SW because I didn't get in this game to help make someone else rich. Handing over 300 bones for such a feeble amount of work goes against my ways. I don't need any GFE or affection, don't get me wrong I like all that stuff but want it to be with a real GF. Just wham bam thank ya mam. For 10 min it's only worth a couple green IMO.
I'm retired from SP's for a few years now. Haven't spent more than 3 greens on one chick in that time.
