Extra's with a regular indy sp question please.

energizer81

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Hi, I have seen a indy sp for over a year, the other day she sent me a message that certain things we used to do are now extra and I have to pay more. (Daty, Dato, foot play... all extras) I have been paying her regular donation and have found that to be my limit you know? but now with all these extras that I like to do at our meetings, it has put it over my budget to be honest, and I dont think I can afford it anymore. and I am so used to doing these extra's now that I don't have the feeling to continue without doing them. I am honestly a bit hurt that she has introduced these new costs, but I have not said anything to her about it yet.

Can I ask advice on what I should do? how should I move forward?
 
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Hi, I have seen a indy sp for over a year, the other day she sent me a message that certain things we used to do are now extra and I have to pay more. (Daty, Dato, foot play... all extras) I have been paying her regular donation and have found that to be my limit you know? but now with all these extras that I like to do at our meetings, it has put it over my budget to be honest, and I dont think I can afford it anymore. and I am so used to doing these extra's now that I don't have the feeling to continue without doing them. I am honestly a bit hurt that she has introduced these new costs, but I have not said anything to her about it yet.

Can I ask advice on what I should do? how should I move forward?
How can you put a price on true love? oh wait a minute.....
 

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She has made a business decision, so you can return the favour and see how that plays out rather than just switch immediately.

Shop around for other providers who include those extra services, switch and let her know that your reduction in visits is because of that. She may then change her mind. If she remains firm in the coming months, further reduce visits.

Regulars are like gold. It may well be this girl is not yet solid on this concept. It could be she found a boyfriend and wants to reduce some of the more intimate activities by putting a price tag on them. Or, she could just be greedy. Girls can charge whatever they want, and guys can choose to pay or not.
 

energizer81

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I know that I am nothing to her, I am not stupid. I just like doing those extra's and not sure what to do, There has been a few times in the past year where she tried to charge more for things, and I just politely refused to pay it, after a couple days, she changed her mind and things went back to before.

I just want to know whats the best thing to say to a young girl about this?
would it be ok if I told her that I am overwhelmed by these changes and that I am shocked she would try to charge extra for these things? especially after seeing her for a year regularly?
and more importantly that I want to do these extra's and I don't have the budget for them on top of her donations?


She has made a business decision, so you can return the favour and see how that plays out rather than just switch immediately.

Shop around for other providers who include those extra services, switch and let her know that your reduction in visits is because of that. She may then change her mind. If she remains firm in the coming months, further reduce visits.

Regulars are like gold. It may well be this girl is not yet solid on this concept. It could be she found a boyfriend and wants to reduce some of the more intimate activities by putting a price tag on them. Or, she could just be greedy. Girls can charge whatever they want, and guys can choose to pay or not.
 

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I know that I am nothing to her, I am not stupid. I just like doing those extra's and not sure what to do, There has been a few times in the past year where she tried to charge more for things, and I just politely refused to pay it, after a couple days, she changed her mind and things went back to before.

I just want to know whats the best thing to say to a young girl about this?
would it be ok if I told her that I am overwhelmed by these changes and that I am shocked she would try to charge extra for these things? especially after seeing her for a year regularly?
and more importantly that I want to do these extra's and I don't have the budget for them on top of her donations?

What happens when a product u like in a store has a price increase, do u refuse to pay the new rate?

It's kind of dumb for you to expect 'fun things' to be included..... Its totally up to the working lady what she wants to be reimbursed for work...

If it's outta your range now, move on, let the lady politely know you unfortunately can't afford her time anymore and have to move on.... Shop around, there's other ladies out there who might include the 'fun things' at no extra
 
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what if I told you the indy I am seeing is charging 500$/hr, and she is now asking for an extra 400$ to do these extra's?


What happens when a product u like in a store has a price increase, do u refuse to pay the new rate?

It's kind of dumb for you to expect 'fun things' to be included..... Its totally up to the working lady what she wants to be reimbursed for work...

If it's outta your range now, move on, let the lady politely know you unfortunately can't afford her time anymore and have to move on.... Shop around, there's other ladies out there who might include the 'fun things' at no extra
 
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I know that I am nothing to her, I am not stupid. I just like doing those extra's and not sure what to do, There has been a few times in the past year where she tried to charge more for things, and I just politely refused to pay it, after a couple days, she changed her mind and things went back to before.

I just want to know whats the best thing to say to a young girl about this?
would it be ok if I told her that I am overwhelmed by these changes and that I am shocked she would try to charge extra for these things? especially after seeing her for a year regularly?
and more importantly that I want to do these extra's and I don't have the budget for them on top of her donations?
Well, its a good thing you have some experience and politely declining price increases.
It sounds like a valuable skill that would be helpful for you to acquire is how not to give a fuck. Someone wrote a book on that.
Using words like being 'overwhelmed' and 'shocked' should not be in the vocabulary of a paying client. So don't even think of including anything in the discussion that conveys you are shocked or overwhelmed. She has the right to change prices. The correct response is that you remain polite and say you respect that, but you have a budget. End of story.

If a gas station charges 5 cents more than another, I'll drive an extra mile to get to the cheaper station and continue going there.

For a longer explanation you could give, I would just make it clear that, given the many choices available out there, the sole reason you keep coming back is because of those 'extras' that the vast majority of girls do not parcel out and charge extra for.

If you are prepared for the risk of dumping her, you can also take the hard line and say the risk she is taking now is simply losing the entirety of the cash she has been getting for the past year, and just say "there are lots of other customers out there" (that could be a bit rude).

She can say, you are right dude, and adios buddy. You better be prepared for that. The upside of that outcome is that your spend on unappreciative pussy just stopped, so now you can get that new camera you always wanted.

You have made it clear that time is time, one 5-minute portion is not more valuable than another 5-minute portion in the same session. You'll see lots of guys that are perfectly happy to pay extra for CIM, COT, COF, foot fetish, GS, pegging - but the vast majority of them are one-timers, not regulars; you just happen to not be one of those one-timer guys.

In my case, a regular decided she wasn't going to do DFK anymore. I kept seeing her regardless for many more months, but kept my eye open for a replacement. I suspected that if I offered more cash she would reinstate DFK, but I didn't. Eventually over time, visits slowed then I stopped seeing her. There was no long winded explanation or discussion about loss of something I liked doing, I just found replacements.

Another regular decided one day that future visits should be 50% more. I ignored it. She was free to tell me to leave, and if that happened I wasn't returning, and and didn't say that, she knew. I just wasn't going for it. Life continued as normal and she didn't try again. No long explanation was needed.

Yet another girl decided that instead of coming over, she would do car dates at the same price. I nixed that, and she has continued to be my regular for several years. We make dinner, watch movies, yap for hours, screw, then off she goes back to her boyfriend.

The choices are pretty simple, since you have made it clear the budget takes precedence over the extra services:
  • Keep the budget, reduce the visits, pay the extra she wants, no discussion needed
  • Keep the budget, reduce the visits, pay another girl for the extras
  • Keep the budget, find a replacement girl doesn't charge for extras
  • Get a better paying job, pay your regular more

 
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I don't know why there's so much overanalysis being put into the responses, and why some assumptions about OP are being made.

Usually when girls do something like this, they grandfather it for their regulars/existing customers, so IMO it's a poor business decision, but her decision nonetheless.

And that's it. She has made her decision, and now you make yours; continue seeing her without extras or to not see her.
 

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what if I told you the indy I am seeing is charging 500$/hr, and she is now asking for an extra 400$ to do these extra's?

That's her decision.. She could be unfortunately trying to price you out or maybe just trying to build a list of repeats who aren't afraid to pay the increase and have less dates .. Maybe you need decide to move in to another lady still within ur budget

Heck, if ur already paying $500/hr, im sure there's plenty of ladies within that range that would probably include some of the fun things u want
 
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Doesn't change a damn thing. If anything, it makes it more imperative to move on. If you have been a regular at 500 and she wants 80% more, she is not into you, it may well be a hint to get rid of you. Once again, she doesn't owe you a damn thing and if you think she does, you are the problem, not her.
She doesn’t, but this idea that a woman feels like she can suddenly extort 80% more because she thinks he’s a simp who will cave and pay regardless is pathetic. It’s just bad business ethics. His example is just on the extreme end of the scales. $500 going to $900 is insane!

I was seeing a regular for a while - it was great fun, never clock watching, PSE/GFE you name it. She was a lot more reasonably priced but recently decided to cut off most of the same services AND hike the price up by 50%. I was ok paying a little more if the level of service remained. I will not put up with increased rates AND a drop in service levels. For me, it’s one or the other not both I’m afraid.

As a result I stopped seeing her. Shit happens, you move on.

My suggestion to the OP is to simply ignore her, and find someone else. She may come back and offer the old rates again. If not, who cares if you find someone better
 

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She doesn’t, but this idea that a woman feels like she can suddenly extort 80% more because she thinks he’s a simp who will cave and pay regardless is pathetic.
Where are you getting the idea that this is her intention.....?
 

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She doesn’t, but this idea that a woman feels like she can suddenly extort 80% more because she thinks he’s a simp who will cave and pay regardless is pathetic. It’s just bad business ethics. His example is just on the extreme end of the scales. $500 going to $900 is insane!

I was seeing a regular for a while - it was great fun, never clock watching, PSE/GFE you name it. She was a lot more reasonably priced but recently decided to cut off most of the same services AND hike the price up by 50%. I was ok paying a little more if the level of service remained. I will not put up with increased rates AND a drop in service levels. For me, it’s one or the other not both I’m afraid.

As a result I stopped seeing her. Shit happens, you move on.

My suggestion to the OP is to simply ignore her, and find someone else. She may come back and offer the old rates again. If not, who cares if you find someone better
She is taking advantage of you. There is no way she is charging her other clients more for daty, at least not that much more.
Instead of being grateful to have a nice, regular client such as yourself, she’s trying to see how much she can extract from you.

Trust me, she’s not a good person and it’s time to move on.
 

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Really good thread.

I think many of us who have been doing this awhile have seen similar drops in value. What makes this unique is that from the OP's note, there was something a lot more than a client - provider thing going on. When you help someone's kid get a job, share dinners off the clock and so on, IMO that is more.

In the end its a two way street that happens in business. The provider decided her services were worth more. The pooner decides the services are not. She has made a decision to not grandfather in the OP as a regular. And the regular is now sitting there thinking WTF. Bummer man, I feel for you as even us old hardened up perbites have feelings too.

Too late now?? But I would have told her out of the chute, your prices are now beyond my budget and if you were to raise the prices I would have hoped you might have thought about what we were sharing in addition to my purchased time, or something like that.

Anyway, its done. When that shit happens to me, I don't dwell on what was lost, I think about what I had.
 

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Anyway, its done. When that shit happens to me, I don't dwell on what was lost, I think about what I had.
Yup. Good memories left alone, not contaminated by a bad separation or bridge-burning event are great.
Hop over to the Perb advertising section, check out the ladies Twitter accounts, and any onlyfans for even more gory details, check the reviews and pick a new girl.
 

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she tried to charge more for things, and I just politely refused to pay it, after a couple days, she changed her mind and things went back to before.
You cannot "politely refuse to pay" a woman for her services.
I just want to know whats the best thing to say to a young girl about this?
Young girl? Condescending there.
I am shocked she would try to charge extra for t
It can't be too much of a shock if it has been ongoing.
She has been giving you signals and you are not picking up on them.
We are only reading one side of this and there may be a lot more going on.
Move on, it's better for both of you.
 
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So I went to 7 Eleven yesterday and noticed that the price of the chocolate bars is the same as it has always been - too damn expensive but I love a Skor bar so why should I care about her price. I crave Skor and see her at least one time every month. You would say that I am somewhat addicted to her.

So this time I pick her off the shelf and noticed she is quite a bit smaller.

WTF Skor you have lost a lot of weight The thinner tighter wrapper looked hot but I am getting less of you. That sucks and I feel ripped off.

She tells me "Look fella, if size mattered I would have refused to see you after your first visit and now that I am slimmer and tighter, I may choose not to see you anymore"

So the moral of this story is be thankful your "regular" was upfront with you. We live in a market based economy and she likely needs more money for the services she provides you. I am sure she is on par with other providers and rather than raise her prices for the base, she has given you a few choices.

Be thankful that your regular is not a bag of chips or a chocolate bar and tried to pull a fast one on you when you got to her place.

In my case I could have picked up Eat-more but she demands too much foreplay and my jaw gets tired from all that oral activity.

For me SKOR and Snickers are my all time favorite girls. Now a few of the other guys here at perb I suspect are into Mr. BIG and O'Henry. I am talking about the Trump Supporters.

So my advice is for you to stick with your regular and not choose so many sides.
 
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