Ethinc Groups linked to Crime in Canada

[Devils_Advocate]

There was a recent poll done regarding which ethnic groups are most linked to crime by region in Canada. Personally I thought one major group was missing, although I'm assuming they weren't even considered a minority.

So I thought, we the enlighted members of PERB could have an inform poll amongst ourselves.

Personally I think Caucasians (and yes you are a minority) are the group most responsible for crime in Canada.

I do not want this post to in anyway to offend anyone, and if the Mod's feel just, please remove the post.

I'd also like this poll to be an open forum for any comments you have about the poll, or racism in Canada in general.

 

[felix29]

In Calgary on a per capita basis, South East Asians have the highest murder rate.

But for crimes in general I would expect caucasians to lead the pack, from drug crimes to property theft

 

[Rain Man]

Crime is not related to race

There are too many factors involved to relate or link crime to specific ethnic groups.

I also don't see how you can state that caucasions are a minority in this country. Maybe in the 3 big cities but pretty sure that is about it. A quick check at http://www12.statcan.ca/ clearly shows this to be the case.

It is also funny that you state under Asians there are many different cultures and indicate that Arab/Persian are 2 cultures but according to you Brits, French, German, Irish, Scots, half of Russia, Poles, etc are all one "ethnic" category.

 

[totalnewbie]

Flamebait alert!

Someone is trying to let the worms out of the can.

 

[Jodie]

There was a recent poll done regarding which ethnic groups are most linked to crime by region in Canada. Personally I thought one major group was missing, although I'm assuming they weren't even considered a minority.

I think you might be referring to the article that was in the paper about two weeks ago, where Canadians in major cities were polled about which ethnic groups they *thought* were responsible for the majority of crimes committed. Caucasians were included in the poll, but on average, they were thought to be responsible for only about 3% of crime. The results in each city tended to depend on which ethnic minorities were most prevalent. For example, in Vancouver, people polled thought that South Asians, followed by Asians were responsible for the majority of crime. Torontonians felt that blacks were responsible for most of the crime in their city. Oddly enough, in all cities, Caucasians were indeed the ones responsible for the majority of criminal activity.

 

[BigBlue]

In Vancouver and the west coast....

organized, violent, or high profile crime (ie. drive by shootings, home invasions and the drug trade) is most often linked to visible groups like the Hell's Angels (a white guys' club, from an outsider's view), the "Vietnamese gangs" and the "Indo-Canadian gangs." I would agree that, yes, probably most crime is perpetuated by Caucasians, but it is hard not to ignore a media profile of a case involving a gang shooting in a Vietnamese cafe or the murder of an Indo-Canadian known to police outside a club. I think we are talking about at least two different things here: perception and reality.....it would be interesting to see an actual breakdown of offenders by ethnicity (also by percentage of the pop....ie. what % of caucasians are offenders, etc.).....
I agree, this is an often taboo subject, as it treads at the door of discrimination and invites calls of "racism"....if nothing else it is interesting and debatable....
A link to the article that Jodie cites above would be nice.....

 

[Damaged]

It would also be interesting to see ICBC crash statistics for the different races.

 

[gravitas]

I could give a flying fuck what race or religion a criminal is, what I do care about is that our justice system (mainly the courts) have a chronic problem of not dealing with the issue of gangs. In Calgary there has been a marked increase in Vietnamese gang activity over the past 4 years and its resulted in ~10 known gang members being murdered. To combat this problem much like many other jurisdictions the CPS has created a specialized gang task force. While they've been effective in curtailing some of the gang's illegal activity the courts don't seem to want to come onside. Case in point on March 13th two people with ties to Vietnamese gangs were arrested and found in possession of a loaded hang gun and body armor. They were released on bail within 24 hours. HOW IN THE FUCK does that make any sense whatsoever?

 

[bartendr]

This is very interesting to see what other people think is happening out there.

 

[kafka555]

F'ing inbred canine-fornicating white trash.

 

[wolverine]

Here on the other side of the Rockies, the perception is that it is the aboriginals who cause most of the crime.

 

[westwoody]

As far as unprovoked mugging-type attacks, I've been attacked three times by natives and once by a cracker. I haven't attacked anybody yet.

 

[BigBlue]

two people with ties to Vietnamese gangs were arrested and found in possession of a loaded hang gun and body armor. They were released on bail within 24 hours. HOW IN THE FUCK does that make any sense whatsoever?

Yup...I hear ya. And too often an innocent gets caught in the crossfire!

 

[westwoody]

Cops beat up Asian gangster or Native street gangbanger=lawsuit,public apology,field day for CBC.
Cops beat up white Hells Angel=nothing.

 

[missing link]

on a side note..in construction a caucasian can't even buy a job from an East Indian. They only deal with other East Indians. I must say, Asian's are different, they deal purely based business..not "I want to give this job to my buddy" mentality. Anyway, I notice now that more "caucasian only" companies are sprouting up. Builders are only dealing with caucasian sub trades. I can go months without even a whif of samosa. I think its about time caucasians took a stand against this reverse racism bullshit.

 

[Big_Al500]

Garbage

First off race and crime are disproportionally covered in the media.

It is the discourse of racism that further brainwashes us all with images and ideas of how certain groups are more apt to create social decay when in fact the stats show otherwise.

Second the argument of reverse discrimination is not solid. Section 15 of the Charter covers the rights and they include everyone. However the optics of ammelioration do indeed present that argument. I would argue that it is not reverse discrimination rather it is flawed legislation that has orwellian equality at its root. Legeslated inequality a least looks like we are trying, but when combined with human rigths act or employnment equity act the results are devistating to the white male. Go further and include hate speech and the simple act of speaking out will get you charged for hate speech because you have used race in your argument. We my friends are on the road to disaster.
we can all thank Truedau for his wonderous vision

Next time you watch the news notice the amout of positive vs negative stories about different racial groups and you will see that around 3-5% cover visible minority positive and the rest negative. Visa versa for white majoriy.

And on that note no we are not minorities. It may seem that way when you visit specific communities but WASP is still the dominant race in Canada.

 

[wilde]

I think its about time caucasians took a stand against this reverse racism bullshit.

So what's the grand plan for your "counter reverse racism bullshit" bullshit, dealing with caucasians only? I believe this stand that you are referring to already exist in many forms, one of which is called the KKK.

Alternatively, try removing all items in your household with a made in China/Japan/Indonesia/Taiwan/India/you get the drift label. Second step, count what you have left and realize you will be living in the stone age with all of the items removed in step 1. Good luck with that.

 

[missing link]

yep..right away another caucasian is labelled a racist for standing up for himself. OK wilde..grab a hammer and learn how to do roofing lets say. Now, head out to Surrey and try to bid on a job in one of those new subdivisions being built. Good luck with that. You'll be wasting your time unless your name ends in "deep" or "inder".

and for the record..Asians don't invent things..they copy. They don't have that european ability of vision..but they are great at adapting an existing idea. They did invent gun powder though I think..but only used it for fireworks until the europeans used it for weapons against them. Kind of like someone punching you in the face with your own fist.

 

[smackyo]

yep..right away another caucasian is labelled a racist for standing up for himself. OK wilde..grab a hammer and learn how to do roofing lets say. Now, head out to Surrey and try to bid on a job in one of those new subdivisions being built. Good luck with that. You'll be wasting your time unless your name ends in "deep" or "inder".

and for the record..Asians don't invent things..they copy. They don't have that european ability of vision..but they are great at adapting an existing idea. They did invent gun powder though I think..but only used it for fireworks until the europeans used it for weapons against them. Kind of like someone punching you in the face with your own fist.

while i agree with the white man getting the shaft in the construction biz and other area's of employment, i will say that you should educate yourself a bit more on the innovations of asia. mostly china but still there is a lot that they have done invention wise. also yes gunpowder was invented by the chinese.

 

[JMBrowning]

yep..right away another caucasian is labelled a racist for standing up for himself. OK wilde..grab a hammer and learn how to do roofing lets say. Now, head out to Surrey and try to bid on a job in one of those new subdivisions being built. Good luck with that. You'll be wasting your time unless your name ends in "deep" or "inder".

So it wasn't racist when the Chinese had to pay a head tax at the end of 19th century?

and for the record..Asians don't invent things..they copy. They don't have that european ability of vision..but they are great at adapting an existing idea.

For the record, Asian countries like China and India are kicking Europeans' asses when it comes to economies and businesses. Please give me comparisons in economics between European nations vs these Asian nations and show me if both China and India are not doing better than the Europeans.

Also, for the record, Asians are not only great at adapting an existing idea, they improve it (cars and electronics, for instances).

They did invent gun powder though I think..but only used it for fireworks until the europeans used it for weapons against them. Kind of like someone punching you in the face with your own fist.

oooooh... I like to see the Europeans try that today to the Chinese. I bet they won't.