Escorting without the sex?

[Holly Taylor]

A friend of mine expressed that she is interested in the idea of escorting, but isn't comfortable with the idea of sex for money.

I gather that she would be interested in all of the social aspects, and would enjoy giving and receiving massages (while wearing underwear).

It sounds like she would be up for going on dinner dates, watching movies, going to plays/concerts, hanging out, massages/cuddling, and other activities like that.

It would be all the companionship and emotional intimacy of having a girlfriend, but without the sex. (No happy endings, no complete nudity, no sex, nothing sexual.)

Is there a market for this sort of thing?

I could see this service as a marketable one, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

If she opted to do something like this, would there be any point in her advertising on PERB? I'm trying to figure out where she could advertise this social escorting service...

 

[james1944]

Hmmm... that would interest me, but not sure how many guys out there feel the same way (doubt very many). If your friend were to do this, not sure how much she can really charge either. Like maybe 25% to 50% tops of what FS SPs charge. Not sure if it's really worth it all things considered.

 

[*emmanuelle]

I read an interview with a young Canadian lady who apparently makes huge amounts of money accompanying men to events, dinners and on vacations. She said that she gets all her clients through "word of mouth" rather than the internet. She didn't really elaborate, but did say that the internet was a bad place to advertise and most of the guys online are looking for sex, not companionship. Sorry - that doesn't really help much. Maybe she could hang out at the international terminal and chat up well-dressed men? Ha ha, I dunno.

I think if your friend could make a living doing this, she'd have it made. However, I also imagine that any girls doing this would have to be absolute STUNNERS (like, as in a "real life" 10) and also be extremely well-bred, polite, social, educated, etc etc - in other words, a total package. There would be a LOT of pressure to always look perfect and always be in a great mood.

 

[LADY-VIA]

id day go for it... I do offer offer social dates.. at a rate of 100 an hour.. which is discounted to 50 an hour for longer periods of time.. and i have booked a few just social dates

 

[Gentle-man]

My guess is there is a market, my guess is it is a small one...
If you sample how many of your clients are in a position where they can risk a public outing, I imagine that a good percentage are out.
Of the remaining how many are looking for only physical intimacy over an encounter (see current SP talk thread), you are left with a smaller percentage.
Of the remaining how many would enjoy a dinner or theatre or hockey date, but still want the chance of bedroom activities that night or another time... take them off the list... they will book with an SP that offers social time

With the small client base that remains, you probably get down to $50, maybe $75 or $100/hr with great reputation built for social only. Just guesses on my part though, I was neither a business nor economics major.

 

[jesuschrist]

A friend of mine expressed that she is interested in the idea of escorting, but isn't comfortable with the idea of sex for money.

I gather that she would be interested in all of the social aspects, and would enjoy giving and receiving massages (while wearing underwear).

It sounds like she would be up for going on dinner dates, watching movies, going to plays/concerts, hanging out, massages/cuddling, and other activities like that.

It would be all the companionship and emotional intimacy of having a girlfriend, but without the sex. (No happy endings, no complete nudity, no sex, nothing sexual.)

Is there a market for this sort of thing?

I could see this service as a marketable one, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

If she opted to do something like this, would there be any point in her advertising on PERB? I'm trying to figure out where she could advertise this social escorting service...

If she is not offering sex, she is then offering other forms of companionship - and that would be basically her personality then. For a man to want to pay a woman for the benefit of her personality? Let me put it this way, if you are even a slightly interesting man, then you would have no problems finding slightly interesting women to talk to - for free. So your friend would likely only be paid by excruciatingly boring or desperate men or very annoying men who no woman would want to talk to.

Just as a lot of men are pretty cynical about women - that is, that all women want from them is money, there is some truth in it. A woman can usually get laid pretty easy, especially if she is not picky. So the offer of sex from a man is no big deal to her, as there are usually a ton of men who just would. Nor are offers of companionship of personality - many men would easily offer their time to just talk to a girl. What else is there that she could possibly want that is hard to get from the opposite sex? Money. Beyond that, they want loyalty - that is, if they value the guy first.

What do men want from women? It isn't money, they have none. It isn't personality, unless its the right kind (ie: compliancy). It's sex, and that's because its hard to get for most men. So what would they be willing to pay for personality then?

I think your friend needs a dose of reality, and maybe a good steady paying straight job.

 

[threepeat]

A friend of mine expressed that she is interested in the idea of escorting, but isn't comfortable with the idea of sex for money.

I gather that she would be interested in all of the social aspects, and would enjoy giving and receiving massages (while wearing underwear).

It sounds like she would be up for going on dinner dates, watching movies, going to plays/concerts, hanging out, massages/cuddling, and other activities like that.

It would be all the companionship and emotional intimacy of having a girlfriend, but without the sex. (No happy endings, no complete nudity, no sex, nothing sexual.)

Is there a market for this sort of thing?

I could see this service as a marketable one, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

If she opted to do something like this, would there be any point in her advertising on PERB? I'm trying to figure out where she could advertise this social escorting service...

I saw the movie "Memoirs of a Geisha" recently and it made me curious enough to do some research on it. Apparently the original geishas were not prostitutes at all, but companions more than anything else -- the idea was that if they gave in to sex it took their mystery away. It was mainly the U.S. occupation after World War II that caused some prostitutes to dress up as "geisha girls" that muddied the perception to what it is today. Modern geishas do exist today, except they are called hostesses, and are hired by clients to be beautiful eye candy to liven up parties and entertain groups. In addition to being gorgeous, they usually can sing and/or play an instrument, have wonderful conversation skills, etc.

I guess this is my long way of saying there could be a market for it. She would obviously need to be the whole looks, personality, education package, etc., and she will be obviously get more than a few questions about the sexual side of things. But there sounds like little risk involved, as long as she is clear from the outset and doesn't lead clients on. Who knows, if she develops a comfort level for the job or with the client, she might be open to changing her boundaries as well and become a part-time SP that only sees a few customers.

 

[luvsdaty]

Might as well just get married if your gonna have a gfe? with no sexound:

 

[bcneil]

Perhaps she could advertise as a non-sexual masseuse/companion who offers social time as one of her services. I think it's pretty unrealistic to offer massage 'in your undies' then expect clients to be happy with no sexual touching at all tho.

I agree. Mutual massage in panties, with no happy ending.....many guys might find that frustrating.
I also imagine she would need to spend lots of money in the start.
She would need outfits for all kinds of events. High end restaurants, weddings, who knows.

I also think many guys looking for this would expect a very bright and attractive girl.

 

[Tugela]

I expect that there would be a market for it, but how and where would she advertise without attracting guys who assumed that whatever she was saying was just code to avoid legal issues? It seems to me that it would be pretty risky and the potential of being in a situation with an irrate client who feels defrauded would be very real.

The other thing of course, is that if sex is involved the expectations revolve around sex, but if it is not, then appearance and personality are going to be supremely important because that is what you are selling to the client. She would have to be stunning both in looks and in personality to pull it off well enough to make any sort of living out of it.

 

[kenchorney]

I expect that there would be a market for it, but how and where would she advertise without attracting guys who assumed that whatever she was saying was just code to avoid legal issues? It seems to me that it would be pretty risky and the potential of being in a situation with an irrate client who feels defrauded would be very real.

That was the first thing I thought of as well. There may be a small market for what she wants to offer but I would say PERB is not the right place for her to advertise. I would think she would end up declining more inquires than she would book.

 

[Holly Taylor]

I expect that there would be a market for it, but how and where would she advertise without attracting guys who assumed that whatever she was saying was just code to avoid legal issues? It seems to me that it would be pretty risky and the potential of being in a situation with an irrate client who feels defrauded would be very real.

This is one of my primary concerns for her. I am nervous that people would interpret her saying "I only offer companionship" as some sort of "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" when in actuality, it would literally just be companionship.

She'd have to find a way to be really clear and explicit about what she offers and what she doesn't if she chooses to pursue this path.

 

[InnocentBoy]

Maybe she could market to really old dudes who have lots of money and can't get it up. Oh wait theres viagra nowadays....
well she should just stick to dating and having guys take her on vacations then.
Sounds like Billionaress's dream job. Does your friend look better than her?

 

[steverino]

If you do the google search a number of non-sexual escort type services are presented. This article is quite interesting http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._always_prostitution_rings_or_are_there_.html

 

[ReluctantPooner]

I would encourage her not to advertise at places like this, and in her promotional materials (ads/website) be VERY clear that there will be no sex or happy endings.

 

[violetblake]

What do men want from women? It isn't money, they have none. It isn't personality, unless its the right kind (ie: compliancy). It's sex, and that's because its hard to get for most men. So what would they be willing to pay for personality then?

Uh, yes women are capable of making money, fyi. And there are plenty of men who go after it and try to mooch off their girlfriends/wives. Ever watched Jerry Springer?

And I'm gonna assume you don't mean that being compliant is the "right kind" of personality for both men and women...but just women? Oh the sexism! lol. I'll never understand a person who wants a submissive and brainless partner that they can control and who listens to everything they say and doesn't have a mind of their own. You essentially want a slave? That's healthy! lol. ( and not the kinky kind of slave ) Sounds like you have quite a lot of issues to work on my friend.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

A friend of mine expressed that she is interested in the idea of escorting, but isn't comfortable with the idea of sex for money.

I gather that she would be interested in all of the social aspects, and would enjoy giving and receiving massages (while wearing underwear).

It sounds like she would be up for going on dinner dates, watching movies, going to plays/concerts, hanging out, massages/cuddling, and other activities like that.

It would be all the companionship and emotional intimacy of having a girlfriend, but without the sex. (No happy endings, no complete nudity, no sex, nothing sexual.)

Is there a market for this sort of thing?

Oh dear...this reminds me of the response that many of us have heard when our girlfriends find out what we do for a living. "OMG really?! How could you?" and then, they think about it a little longer and say, "Hey, here's something I'm sure no one's ever thought of before...how about if I offer just the girlfriend stuff but I don't wanna have sex with any of these guys?" Sheesh, how un-original, really!

Most ladies already offer a reduced hourly rate for social time, ie. one hour of dinner/dancing at 1/2 rate, followed by one or two hours back at her place, for the full rate. And I'm sure the dinner/dancing rate would still be honoured, even if the fellow didn't want to go ahead with the back-at-her-place part, for whatever his reasons.

But, for most situations, the promise of more adventure later is what makes the first hour scintillating! Otherwise, it's just as easy to follow AIB and call your niece or cousin, for a lady at your side, with nothing intimate attached or expected. I don't think it's that hard to find a lady who will let you take her out for dinner...they're all over P*F and other dating sites!!!

Basically, I think the thought is very naive...but fairly typical!

 

[westcoastjoe]

Like you

I read an interview with a young Canadian lady who apparently makes huge amounts of money accompanying men to events, dinners and on vacations. She said that she gets all her clients through "word of mouth" rather than the internet. She didn't really elaborate, but did say that the internet was a bad place to advertise and most of the guys online are looking for sex, not companionship. Sorry - that doesn't really help much. Maybe she could hang out at the international terminal and chat up well-dressed men? Ha ha, I dunno.

I think if your friend could make a living doing this, she'd have it made. However, I also imagine that any girls doing this would have to be absolute STUNNERS (like, as in a "real life" 10) and also be extremely well-bred, polite, social, educated, etc etc - in other words, a total package. There would be a LOT of pressure to always look perfect and always be in a great mood.

 

[SexyBoy]

She would be working as an escort and not a sex provider which most escorts really are. Sure some sex providers do both. Sex providers started to call themselves escorts for legal reasons and because it sounded better then prostitute.

However that being said the market for being just an escort can be very competitive. The kinds of clients that want such a woman have money and don't mind easily parting with it. They don't want an actual relationship but desire companionship. Just being attractive is far from enough. He wants to have fun while he is out with her and she must accommodate that desire. He very well might want to take her to some type of event that requires dancing.

The escort might have to play the gf role with people that client knows.

As for the average working man there is not too many that would want to pay for just companionship. There are way too many ways to get that for free. Maybe there are a few that want to be around an attractive woman with no sex but, not many that is for sure.

Another major reason for a non sex escort is if you are new to that city and want to be shown around town or brought out to places for a good time. Many of these escorts can speak multiple languages as they might get someone who doesn't speak the native language. The way she talks about her knowledge of having a good time and knowing great restaurants etc. helps a great deal.

The prices for such an escort vary greatly. There are no sex escort agencies as well as advertising websites for independent non sex escorts all over the world.

Of course there are also escorts that just doing everything and they are good at it all.

The prices one escort charges varies extremely. One of the most important factors is also confidentiality.

You know you can do web searches on this type of stuff. It should be known that there are not many non sex escorts in Canada. However in other countries that is another story. Places that get a lot of tourists are the best.

 

[Sucre]

Actually there is a good market, from older gentleman. They may be married or live in a certain social class, (church going, have a status etc.) or may be shy, but probably the majority of man actually by upbringing or sense of shame cannot bring themselves to hire an escort. It does not mean they do not enjoy a females company, if packaged right. The best candidate is faithful but lonely. In fact the primary market will be out of town married businessman. Probably be of a minimum age of 40. Fifty is even better as they will be respectful and have ability to keep hands to themselves unless invited.
They cannot get enough of attention by a pretty young woman. Go to any bar in a 5 star hotel, and flirt with a businessman. Its easy, no sex required, pay attention to them and they will invite her to dinner, drinks, to see the sights, etc. they will lavish and feel guilty unless they compensate her. Of course she is not an escort so cannot act as such and take money for companionship or she becomes an escort. She is torn (or so it seems to him) . She finds him a gentleman, and loves his wisdom and would love to spend more time with him, but she cannot take day off from her job, (or variation) if she calls in sick she will be docked pay. He will be insisting to pay, to compensate her for her loss.

Sounds like a romance novel but if there is a legitimate excuse for him to be with her, he will gladly be with her and gladly pay for her time. Forget about massage or touching, just exude class and be vulnerable. He will never take advantage. It will be like old fashioned courting and flirting.
As to amount, well the amount sought needs to less then FS, as it is compensation for lost wages, or acting as a guide (legitimate) not payment for companionship or sex. (immoral just ask any wife).