Escort Agencies and MPs
- Thread starter shak
- Start date
Interesting question bringing up a lot of points.
When I lived in Auz, the industry has good government support. ie. public paid healthcare for SP STD testing. Friends I have from Vancouver say that the health nurse's there are also very good at giving out info/condoms and the like. When you walk into a 'parlour' in Auz, you select who you like to see and even before business is discussed, the first thing that happens is that the SP asks you to display your little man and does a clinical inspection for visual STD signs- this happened everywhere regardless of in or outcall service and girls from the track- there is good education being put out. Then they ask if you have had a wash and if not to do so- they'll wait and sometimes join in if the dollars are taken care of.
As for strict regulations on how and what your girls do- this is playing with fire for business owners. One, if you tell a girl for "X-dollars" you have to provide "this" level of service you are setting yourself up to be charged for pandering and living off the avails. I just had an indepth conversation with a girl from anouther company who was asking me what level of service she should be providing in our local market- I can tell her this as I am not collecting from her without fear of vice coming after me (good idea for business owners to get a third party to explain services so you do not get in trouble- it does not take a rocket scientist to work out what is what, but some girls are not as smart as others- no offence ladies). For the record, the other business owner did not ask me to explain to this girl what service was expected, I did it as her friend to make her job easier.
Anouther way for business owners to clarify is to send a 'new/inexperienced' girl with one of your senior/experienced ladies to show them what is what- and to provide details on how to be safe. I swear there is so little health information available in Alberta on safer-sexual activities- why are we single-mama capital of Canada? Some of the girls that come to us I shake my head and wish my mama was here (she was a very open minded nurse).
Generally, a good working girl is hard to find for business girls- the kind of lady who knows how to handle her game properly. We find out pretty quick from customer complaints if a girl is not cut out for this business and we let them go. As a driver, I can also tell pretty damn quick if someone is getting out of hand in regards to mind altering substances- we won't put up with that at all.
Hope this has provided some insight. There needs to be more done in Canada in regards to SP health safety and general safety in this industry. I am all for government input as long as it is useful.
When I lived in Auz, the industry has good government support. ie. public paid healthcare for SP STD testing. Friends I have from Vancouver say that the health nurse's there are also very good at giving out info/condoms and the like. When you walk into a 'parlour' in Auz, you select who you like to see and even before business is discussed, the first thing that happens is that the SP asks you to display your little man and does a clinical inspection for visual STD signs- this happened everywhere regardless of in or outcall service and girls from the track- there is good education being put out. Then they ask if you have had a wash and if not to do so- they'll wait and sometimes join in if the dollars are taken care of.
As for strict regulations on how and what your girls do- this is playing with fire for business owners. One, if you tell a girl for "X-dollars" you have to provide "this" level of service you are setting yourself up to be charged for pandering and living off the avails. I just had an indepth conversation with a girl from anouther company who was asking me what level of service she should be providing in our local market- I can tell her this as I am not collecting from her without fear of vice coming after me (good idea for business owners to get a third party to explain services so you do not get in trouble- it does not take a rocket scientist to work out what is what, but some girls are not as smart as others- no offence ladies). For the record, the other business owner did not ask me to explain to this girl what service was expected, I did it as her friend to make her job easier.
Anouther way for business owners to clarify is to send a 'new/inexperienced' girl with one of your senior/experienced ladies to show them what is what- and to provide details on how to be safe. I swear there is so little health information available in Alberta on safer-sexual activities- why are we single-mama capital of Canada? Some of the girls that come to us I shake my head and wish my mama was here (she was a very open minded nurse).
Generally, a good working girl is hard to find for business girls- the kind of lady who knows how to handle her game properly. We find out pretty quick from customer complaints if a girl is not cut out for this business and we let them go. As a driver, I can also tell pretty damn quick if someone is getting out of hand in regards to mind altering substances- we won't put up with that at all.
Hope this has provided some insight. There needs to be more done in Canada in regards to SP health safety and general safety in this industry. I am all for government input as long as it is useful.
Oxymoron Alert!
Personal health is a personal issue in Canada. Government intervention in this sport would raise the ire of the interested parties, and would drive more business underground, where health issues are frequently ignored, and abuse of women is commonplace.captnsavaho said:
I do not agree with you Maury and my case in point is Australia- the business's are out in the wide open and regulated- and not taxed retarded like here ie. variation in licensing.
I completely disagree with you that your personal health is your personal matter when you start to engage in higher risk health behaviour that could possibly affect others. As for driving business underground, if you have not paid attention in the last 10 years, Western Canada's sex industry has become extremely seedy (yes there are a few bad seeds ruining it for the biz- but it does not have to be this way and I have seen the light) having business driven underground and exploiting women in Canada (please do not get into an arguement with me regarding licence businesses exploiting woman because that is a whole other issue I am more then happy to opnely discuss at a later point).
Did you know that there is no clear licensing fees anywhere in Canada which is the only goverment regulation in this industry besides personal 'declared' taxes (and rcmp clearances for licensed girls- besides the likes of Calgary vice that keeps names of working girls for thier own safety/id purposes ie. to identify when they go MIA- I have no idea for Vancouver and clarification would be appreciated).
There seems to be a serious disregard and distrust for the government here- no I am not an impostor but feel that if the industry does not raise the bar- the government needs to- lets get our moneys worth from taxes.
Seriously to all of you 'professionally involved' (not clients please) in the industry- what do you think of my points- and I retarded? I am speaking from experience and the fact that I care for the employees & thier families (and clients for that matter).
I completely disagree with you that your personal health is your personal matter when you start to engage in higher risk health behaviour that could possibly affect others. As for driving business underground, if you have not paid attention in the last 10 years, Western Canada's sex industry has become extremely seedy (yes there are a few bad seeds ruining it for the biz- but it does not have to be this way and I have seen the light) having business driven underground and exploiting women in Canada (please do not get into an arguement with me regarding licence businesses exploiting woman because that is a whole other issue I am more then happy to opnely discuss at a later point).
Did you know that there is no clear licensing fees anywhere in Canada which is the only goverment regulation in this industry besides personal 'declared' taxes (and rcmp clearances for licensed girls- besides the likes of Calgary vice that keeps names of working girls for thier own safety/id purposes ie. to identify when they go MIA- I have no idea for Vancouver and clarification would be appreciated).
There seems to be a serious disregard and distrust for the government here- no I am not an impostor but feel that if the industry does not raise the bar- the government needs to- lets get our moneys worth from taxes.
Seriously to all of you 'professionally involved' (not clients please) in the industry- what do you think of my points- and I retarded? I am speaking from experience and the fact that I care for the employees & thier families (and clients for that matter).
Sure - and let's offer that same argument when some pious granola crunching twit insists that it's only fair that pooners should be required to subject themselves to the same madatory testing and disclosure of health records if they're known to frequent a bawdy house. Afterall, they're engaging in "higher risk health behaviour that could possibly effect others". Long shot, sure - but this is the same government that thinks it's "mean" to require welfare recipients to look for work and came up with the brilliant billion dollar gun registry....it's not unthinkable that there could be moronic behavior in government. In my opinion, it's best to let sleeping dogs lie with this one. If criminals are permitted to keep their health records private, why should a licensed service provider be required to disclose private health information?captnsavaho said:
The laws here seems fair to me. Prostitution is legal. The "seedy" aspects associated with it are not. ie: gonna sell your ass? Fine, do it without standing on a corner wasted on crack and you'll be just fine. gonna see a prostitute? Fine, just do it privately and not in someone's backyard.
No shit.
-
Interesting points man. I don't think I so much meant that staff/or clients should be made to make thier personal records public ie. client "hey, let me see your health log book of certificates of goverment certified good health". I think I meant more along the lines that the government should offer more support to service providers and possibly (I know this one will get me into trouble- but what the hey!) set up some way that staff have to have at least monthly STD tests. That is a wide open sore I am opening but I think it is good to discuss it.
I don't think the laws regarding prostitution are fair here. The business should be legalized and no retribution to clients or providers. A lawyers input would be appreciated here. The case of NIMBY regarding seedy aspects is a whole other ballpark- how on earth would we handle this? Do we turn a blind eye to those who girls who are involved in the street side of the industry- I say no- they are people too who's lives have possibly not gone to plan. I never met on girl ever from track who wanted to be there. Someone has to give them a voice.
I think there should be some kind of government registry for all levels of SP's be it on the street, in parlours, independents etc- this is true to some degree. I am for this not to cause trouble to anyone or disclose anyones information, but to provide a level of security and safety to all involved. I'd almost recommend that the industy organize for themselves, but it almost seems disorganized as our government at all levels throughout Canada. Well, maybe that is one of the aspects of living in such a free society.
Maybe I am living in Utopia- but I am just putting ideas out there to see what comes back- your dialogue is appreciated.
I don't think the laws regarding prostitution are fair here. The business should be legalized and no retribution to clients or providers. A lawyers input would be appreciated here. The case of NIMBY regarding seedy aspects is a whole other ballpark- how on earth would we handle this? Do we turn a blind eye to those who girls who are involved in the street side of the industry- I say no- they are people too who's lives have possibly not gone to plan. I never met on girl ever from track who wanted to be there. Someone has to give them a voice.
I think there should be some kind of government registry for all levels of SP's be it on the street, in parlours, independents etc- this is true to some degree. I am for this not to cause trouble to anyone or disclose anyones information, but to provide a level of security and safety to all involved. I'd almost recommend that the industy organize for themselves, but it almost seems disorganized as our government at all levels throughout Canada. Well, maybe that is one of the aspects of living in such a free society.
Maybe I am living in Utopia- but I am just putting ideas out there to see what comes back- your dialogue is appreciated.
