Engine problems

[the old maxx50]

Yes I know this is not the auto repair board .. i have been browsing those for the last few hours and yesterday too

I have a 2007 F150 with 140K I bought out my lease 5 months ago because i though i did not want to make payments ..

Well it just is costing me money .. some i realize is just general maintenance , but at this milage it needs lot s of replacement .

Spark pugs were a big worry for me but they cam out with out a hitch .they did not break any .

then there was the breaks did all the wheels and trans servicing all ok .

Then i started getting this ticking noise in the motor on the passenger side and it has got loader over the past 3 weeks . So I toke it in for servicing and check what the noise is .. Well they tell me what it is not but don't know what it is .. They need to take the rocker panels off and look at the cam and lifters to start with a $350 bill just to look ..

So i have checked on line about noises in the 5.4 L ford V8 , Not good news .. I could be any number of expensive fixes . Some say stuck valve lifter and that is what most of the people i have had listen think .. Others have had a loss spark plug and bad coil do the same think . Then there are Cam Phasers ( they don't think it is ) .. timing chain or adjuster... and then it get in to all sorts of . things like cams , pistons and blameing improper oil changes or not approved oil filters

All of which lead to them saying oh you need to replace the engine $5000 bill or more which means they don't know how to fix it which is what has happened to many people But the Ford buyer never hears about this until after the fact ..

So has any one else run in to this with a 2007 or so f150 with the 5.4

If it come's down to it i may just have to get a book and learn how to fix this shit .. Play with my old for 6 many a time Hated it .

There was a reason i was leasing a new truck ever 3 to 4 years .. I did not have to deal with this s crap . They just do not make them to last . They don't take responsibility for any defects in manufacturing or design Just put it out there and play the odds And even under warranty they will find some excuse to not do the work or denie the claim

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

But the Ford buyer never hears about this until after the fact ..

And even under warranty they will find some excuse to not do the work or denie the claim

First mistake bro, you bought a Phord.

Get into something reliable. This will fix the problem.
Sorryto say.

Rebuilt my 383 in my cuda back in '98. Still running it at the drag strip till this day.
Running mid twelve's and drive it on the street.

When you spend the time I have at the track you get to know what has longevity
built in and what doesn't.

Hope you can fix your problem there bud. Nothing more annoying than car errr,
excuse me. Phord troubles.:nod:





......................QM'r

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Found On Road Dead...

i had a ford p/u once, the same sound turned out to be noisy hydraulic valve lifters. it was an old ford so they could be replaced easily with a couple of tools. i expect it's big dollars nowadays

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

Do a complete engine flush, put some high end synthetic oil and list it on CL then go buy one under warranty from the US for just a few bucks more than you got for your POS Ford. Repeat in 2 years and the price difference should cover most of your depreciation. I've found cargurus.com useful in the past.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

I have a Frantz Oil Filter - the one that uses rolls of toilet paper. Every 2,000 miles a new roll goes in along with a liter of Oil and a liter of high quality Oil Treatment.

i heard you can use real shitty oil with those filters... ound:

 

[the old maxx50]

Honestly i had no big problem with any of my trucks since 2000 .. I have been buying or leasing them new .. I make sure i change the oil every 5000k and it never is even dirty .. I don't over work them .. The mostly i had it do was take a few loads up to Mackenzie a 1000 K trip and it had no problem doing it.. Now i guess I put about 20000Kin the last year doing those 1000k trip But mostly it was just me and no load..

Admittedly I only kept my 2000 chev 1500 till 110 k and traded it for a 2004 ford 150 and only had 82K on that after 3 yrs when i leased this last one for 4 yrs and just bought it out because i was at 130 k It was running fine with no noise all that time .. Now 10k later it pulls this ..
They wanted to sell me a extend warranty for that would go for another 20K only or 2 yrs and that would of been $1500 or more .. and probably would not cover this.

I know reading on line you hear all about those that are unsatisfied ,, seldom here from those that have not problems ..

It may not matter What vehicle you buy if it going to fuck up then it will no matter who owns it .. The trick is just be able to keep playing and buy new every 4 yrs and have enough warranty to cover that .. The 2004 I had 160 K warranty and this one i only toke there standard factory to 100K for power train.

I put Sea foam in It say i can run it with .. just check the oil see how dirty it is getting and then change . I will see if that helps .. maybe have top get it opened up to see if it is the lifter and what else is worn now .. And then I will trade it back to FORD...

This time just go back to leasing or buy but get enough warranty to cover the Km..and time i want to keep it .. Why another FORD because i have good credit with them . If i can get approved by another dealer i will consider them ..

I think I will go look up what problems the other truck s have ..

 

[storm rider]

I am guessing that the F-150 V8's are crap as I have driven a few Ford Rangers that had an inline 4 and 5 on the floor to death.....death as in the suspension was toast....never had an engine problem once....never had to replace the serpentine belt/timing belt..never had any internal engine problems of any kind...I did have 1 alternator die on me as well as a starter...I did have to replace the differential on 1 truck but that was my own fault as I seriously abused that truck.....I have had to replace 2 clutch slave cylinders and 2 clutches.....I got 256 K from one stock clutch and 310 K from my last one though it was still driving fine when I got my new vehicle last summer.

Personally I think the F-150 is a POS and the Ranger is a far better and tougher workhorse of a truck...though it is smaller....and Ford decided to cease production of the Ranger for the 2011 model year with Mazda doing the same for the B series in 2010(they are the same truck)

So it is a total pile of BS that Ford trucks are Found On Road Dead......I have put 3 of them to the limit....beat the living shit out of them clocking 60,000 KM's per year and only had to pay for the normal repairs......I change my sparkplugs myself and would do the oil changes but I dont have a hoist nor a garage.

On the flip side the shittiest vehicle I have ever heard of is the Dodge Grand Caravan....total POS.

SR

 

[poorboyv6]

Lots of bad advice and biased opinions about who makes a good engine in here.

You need to isolate the problem. Go find a Ford F150 forum and ask these questions.

 

[jesuschrist]

I've got a lifter tick in my volvo too. Was told by a couple mechanics its nothing to worry about... but I don't know about that. It does go up with RPM's. Sometimes it is not there. One mechanic told me that some volvos do tend to tick for a long time without any problems.

I don't know about this really, I searched the forums but found nothing concrete about whether this is something to be worried about. What do you all think?

 

[InnocentBoy]

Put some viagra in the tank.

























Anyone who buys a non diesel truck deserves what they get, that is unless you get a real truck like a raptor

 

[InnocentBoy]

Thats because mazda designed the engine smart guy.

I am guessing that the F-150 V8's are crap as I have driven a few Ford Rangers that had an inline 4 and 5 on the floor to death.....death as in the suspension was toast....never had an engine problem once....never had to replace the serpentine belt/timing belt..never had any internal engine problems of any kind...I did have 1 alternator die on me as well as a starter...I did have to replace the differential on 1 truck but that was my own fault as I seriously abused that truck.....I have had to replace 2 clutch slave cylinders and 2 clutches.....I got 256 K from one stock clutch and 310 K from my last one though it was still driving fine when I got my new vehicle last summer.

Personally I think the F-150 is a POS and the Ranger is a far better and tougher workhorse of a truck...though it is smaller....and Ford decided to cease production of the Ranger for the 2011 model year with Mazda doing the same for the B series in 2010(they are the same truck)

So it is a total pile of BS that Ford trucks are Found On Road Dead......I have put 3 of them to the limit....beat the living shit out of them clocking 60,000 KM's per year and only had to pay for the normal repairs......I change my sparkplugs myself and would do the oil changes but I dont have a hoist nor a garage.

On the flip side the shittiest vehicle I have ever heard of is the Dodge Grand Caravan....total POS.

SR

 

[the old maxx50]

Yes I have gone to the ford forums . That is where i am getting all the horror stories and the different causes of a clicking ,ticking noise . Most toke there truck to Ford to get fixed .. and have shown how ford know all about what has be happening , but like with the spark plugs . passes it on to the owner ..

No one has managed to get a class action suit against them started . Those owners that are denied their claims and dispute it in arbitration or court well they come up against some high priced lawyers . Ford standard first line of deniable is .. did you use a ford oil filter and the ford oil (Motorcraft) . If you did not , now they just say you have sludge that blocked the channels and cause damage .. That was the first thing they asked me did I do all your oil changes with them . Once i said no ,i got them at the quick lube places .. then it was that they don't use the right filters ..... Well if that is the case and they want to go into court and prove that .. i will take the Quick lube place to court for my damages .. I wounder how i should proceed with that? Go after Ford first .. and have them prove in court that the it is cause be bad filter and then go after the other guys who will prove in court that their filter are fine . And then i have to go back after Ford..

Now it is not under warranty ,so may may not have any case other then to prove faulty design and ford callus disregard to take responsibility for the repair cost to the customer .. Basically it amounts to fraud in the 100's of millions of dollars..
I think I better go to school and learn law..

I know i am pissed off at this right now and venting .. It just that I payed $19,000 out 5 month ago .. that now .. may not be worth even $10,000 with out a possible expensive repair bill and no guarantee that it will fix it or i won't have some thing else go wrong because of the same faulty design.. . I know that is the reality of buying a vehicle When they are new and under warranty you are the safest I just got 140 k on it now that is just 88,000 miles. That is nothing for a well maintain vehicle . From the stories on the forum some have similar Km ?miles and others have far less Yes there also are a lot more people that have had no problem at all .Or we are not aware of how many there real are with problem . Maybe i should put and add in the paper and ask the question. "Who has had engine problem with their Ford truck?"

The other things I liked my Ford truck !

More to come on this subject.

 

[COLONEL ANGUS]

I have a Frantz Oil Filter - the one that uses rolls of toilet paper. Every 2,000 miles a new roll goes in along with a liter of Oil and a liter of high quality Oil Treatment. http://www.frantzoil.com/home.html

Does this filter use 1 or 2 ply toilet paper?
I could not find the info on the website

 

[the old maxx50]

Ok I will just clarify .. I had the spark plugs changed at 130K .I was prepared for the worst like breaking a few .. But the ford service had no problem getting them out when they use the recommended procedure They also did a injector flush to loosen the carbon . ,well that is what they told me any ways.. They originally did not need replacing for 150k then they said 100k . Ford never sent out any notice to have the spark plugs removed for maintenance and it was never mentioned by any of the service departments .. until i asked about the problem.. I all ready had 100k on the motor.

Now My oil changes all way had Pennzoil 5W-20W that what was on the cap and that is what they said they put in.. The filters I don't know what they used but if they are not good enough . Do i have grounds for a claim. against them if there filters are not up to specs and they put the wrong oil in ,.

My oil have all way been very clean after 5000k .And i just had Ford change in the other day at 4000k

When i think of the time line on the start of the noise . I got my oil changed on Dec 28 at the oil change place and then drove to Mackenzie on the 30 and 31 a !000K .. It was only -10 but warmed up to + 4 for a few days and then dropped ,the last 5 day it dropped to -15 to-25 . The day i left i had trouble starting and ran the battery down, had to get a jump.
I drove back by the Jan 15 and shortly after i noticed a little ticking .. which has got loader through the last 3 weeks .
I drive up a 2.5 K hill every day a few time and have had no issues with power .. Oil pressure up and temp the same as all ways .
Maybe tht last oil change they fucked up on the oil and the filter .. i have no way of telling and did not know that could be a problem until i looked on line ... Ford did not keep the filter they changed out to prove the point .


Thanks every one .. it is all helpful after the fact .

 

[storm rider]

Thats because mazda designed the engine smart guy.

I am well aware of that....the Ranger and the Mazda B series are the exact same truck but with different badging....Mazda also designed the 1.6L inline 4 that was in the Miata and the same DOHC engine was used in the Ford Escort...one of the best 4 cylinder engines ever made...you can redline it all the time and not damage the engine...it's only weakness was the timing belt which was designed to wear out by 90,000 KM's....the best thing was that it is a non-interferance engine...meaning that if the timing belt snapped no internal damage would happen....the kit to replace the timing belt also comes with a new water pump....a bit of extra work but well worth doing at the same time.

Mazda used to be owned by Ford...same thing for Jaguar/Volvo/Range Rover as well as a few other brands.....but I am sure you KNEW that SMART guy

SR

 

[Walk Softly]

I will also recommend the Sea Foam Maxx. I've run it through every 2nd oil change for years. (just before)

 

[InnocentBoy]

I guess you must have been stupid on purpose than knowing full well mazda designed the engine and saying how the "ford" ranger has been so great to you.

 

[the old maxx50]

A little up date

They say it is Cam Phasers which is at the top of the list of problem ..

My noise hase got loader and it is running rougher .. so it is not going to go much longer .. One problem is that if they do the fix which is $1300 plus taxe and maybe some other stuff .. Then if that does not make the noise go way . iot could be the cam bearing and they say that that is a 30 hr job.. All they want to do then is replace the engine .. for $7000.. ..Only $1300 plus tax in labor to do that ...

Other option is . I have gone pricing a new truck . at Ford 9 because i have good credit with them). Told them the problem and they have offered me $15000 or a little more for my truck , and they pay for the fix .. i trade it in on a new truck and i can get back $10000 in cash ...
I would have some thing reliable again all new and be back on the payment treadmill ether 6 yr at 4.99 % to own or a 4 yr at 6.99% to lease ..There are advantages to leasing ... In my case ownership had its down side .... If I go for the own ,I would get 160 month warranty this time .. other wise on a lease round it up to 100k or 120K . and that would include 25000 km per yr .. i hope i can stay in that .

Good , Bad it is life .. have no idea what twist will be thrown in to life tomorrow .. I deff am not happy a bout having to do this ..

 

[the old maxx50]

What the problem EH

What year is it?.

 

[the old maxx50]

Thanks ali for the video .. I have seen the first one .. The second one . yah if had a shop and the book I could disassemble But I know i have no experience with a jousting the part .. I all so have no place to do it not for me or some one else , i live in a condo

Right now the motor has the right filter and oil from Ford done one week ago .. Things have just got noisier .. I am not believing ever thing they are say .. I thing they have a shitty attitude when it come to fixing there product , but then it turns out they all do .. even BMW.
Making it a 30 hr job to replace cam and bearing .. WTF is that .. the new and improved Ford idea .. but what does it cost to do a GMC , Dodge, NIssan and Toyota .

I am still looking for second opinions from honest mechanics , but unless they actually have worked on the problem they are only guessing too . The days of and experienced mechanic that can fix all brands and all yrs is gone .. you have to specialis on one companies and get up to date with all there changes and TSB..

If this engine needed synthetic then they should of told the customer just like with the spark pugs . I had 5w20 put in just like the spec said .and ezy lube said they area warranty approved to change oil .. Now if they are not using the right approved filter
i think I would og had this problem a lot sooner . i just started hearing it in the lat 4000 k . What are my chances of suing them alin


I payed $17000 pluse tax , so it came to $19200 , to buy out my lease or give them 6000 for my over KM when i had 130K .

This is and fully loaded FX4 .. a nice truck witch i would keep if not for this potential disaster

On car lot i have seen then price 2007 models , up to $25000 with low Km and i have seen lesser models with 140K for $19500

Yes I thought I had some value in my truck . But if the end result is needing a new engine .. at $7000 plus .. what value do i have .

I will try a few other things up to getting the Cam phrases done It still is in my ball park be for i actually trade it and buy again.
Thank every one .