doesn't it all depend on what kind of a relationship you have or want from your sp

[sevenofnine]

Doesn't it really matter what kind of relationship you have with your sp.
I mean a lot has been written about porn star, cim mouth does she swallow, and supper dates aren't you just a sucker, for paying for a women, to eat supper with you.

I don't know but I have been lucky in this, the first sp I ever saw, it was a lot of fun, it was magical. But why I went back to see her, it wasn't only the sex. We laughed we talked we cried we got drunk, sure we had sex, and she was a ps girl, but I went to see her, and we just had a ball, were still friends.
I met another women, and she is conservative gfe, but it kind of went the same way, we or I, I don't want to speak for her or any one, but we just have a lot of fun together, yeah we have sex, but its silly to say, but I don't see her for the sex,
I see her because it’s a nice night out. I enjoy her laughter, her smile the twinkle in her eye, its just fun really enjoyable. The focus isn't sex, but I'm a guy she is a women, it happens, but its like a by product of who we are, a man a women enjoy each other, so at some point one of us gets horny and that’s it.
Both women that I have seen a lot that is kind of the way we approached our sessions,

I pay for her time that is what this is after all, but the sex was almost secondary a by product,
I'm a guy it isn't all that hard to get me horny or wound up. Put me together with any women and at some point my mind is going to wonder to well you know,
Escorts I assume like sex,
Any escort will give you fs, or a bj, pretty much take care of you,
I have met some escorts the chemistry wasn't there, I would never have a supper date with them, one escort I tried to set up like a half an hour session on my way home from work, I enjoyed what she did in a physical sense, but other then that, I didn't need or feel compelled to spend any great length of time with her. But she was very unreliable.
I don't know, I guess you can look at a women as just a body part or two for you to use,
And I guess that is how or why I started in this, I just wanted sex.
But your always making choices should I see her or her, do I want greek or bbbj, one hour, two hours supper dated. Porn star or gfe.
I don't know I have been lucky like i said, I have had a hell of a lot of fun still am, because I have always found sps, that I or we enjoy each others company, the sex comes, but its more a by product of two healthy adult individuals agreeing to meet get together, relaxed and enjoying being alive, and just wanting to have some fun.
Instead of well you have this body part that I want, or there is thing I want you to do.

for sure as hell i get horny and thats all i can think of is pussy and stuff, im a guy.

but when i look into a women's eyes,
she is alot more then just a body part or two for me to use.
a hell of alot more

 

[susi]

this is awesome 7o9....

could i copy and save it to share with others....?

love susieXXXO

 

[CJ Tylers]

I think that for every guy who's just looking to score some tail, there's another fella that's looking more for some sort of connection... something that brings a bit of emotional fulfillment to the encounter. It's a bigger piece of the puzzle than most men are willing to admit to.

 

[Monet]

Yes, we are humans, we have emotions, sex can be secondary, I agree.

Doesn't it really matter what kind of relationship you have with your sp.
I mean a lot has been written about porn star, cim mouth does she swallow, and supper dates aren't you just a sucker, for paying for a women, to eat supper with you.

I don't know but I have been lucky in this, the first sp I ever saw, it was a lot of fun, it was magical. But why I went back to see her, it wasn't only the sex. We laughed we talked we cried we got drunk, sure we had sex, and she was a ps girl, but I went to see her, and we just had a ball, were still friends.
I met another women, and she is conservative gfe, but it kind of went the same way, we or I, I don't want to speak for her or any one, but we just have a lot of fun together, yeah we have sex, but its silly to say, but I don't see her for the sex,
I see her because it’s a nice night out. I enjoy her laughter, her smile the twinkle in her eye, its just fun really enjoyable. The focus isn't sex, but I'm a guy she is a women, it happens, but its like a by product of who we are, a man a women enjoy each other, so at some point one of us gets horny and that’s it.
Both women that I have seen a lot that is kind of the way we approached our sessions,

I pay for her time that is what this is after all, but the sex was almost secondary a by product,
I'm a guy it isn't all that hard to get me horny or wound up. Put me together with any women and at some point my mind is going to wonder to well you know,
Escorts I assume like sex,
Any escort will give you fs, or a bj, pretty much take care of you,
I have met some escorts the chemistry wasn't there, I would never have a supper date with them, one escort I tried to set up like a half an hour session on my way home from work, I enjoyed what she did in a physical sense, but other then that, I didn't need or feel compelled to spend any great length of time with her. But she was very unreliable.
I don't know, I guess you can look at a women as just a body part or two for you to use,
And I guess that is how or why I started in this, I just wanted sex.
But your always making choices should I see her or her, do I want greek or bbbj, one hour, two hours supper dated. Porn star or gfe.
I don't know I have been lucky like i said, I have had a hell of a lot of fun still am, because I have always found sps, that I or we enjoy each others company, the sex comes, but its more a by product of two healthy adult individuals agreeing to meet get together, relaxed and enjoying being alive, and just wanting to have some fun.
Instead of well you have this body part that I want, or there is thing I want you to do.

for sure as hell i get horny and thats all i can think of is pussy and stuff, im a guy.

but when i look into a women's eyes,
she is alot more then just a body part or two for me to use.
a hell of alot more

 

[SexyBoy]

If it isn't so much about the body, and the sex it is time to start a casual relationship with just a regular girl. Anyone should be able to achive this unless you have some real issues?

If you have a lot of extra money donate it to charity.

 

[sevenofnine]

anything you want susi


to be perfectly honest, this post comes from a by product of a conversation with my sp.
a former client is giving her some issues
stalking and stuff, im not going into details nor do i know them all.

every one has a relationship with there sp, whether they admit it or not.
whether they pay for fifteen mins of her time, and just drop there pants or pay for supper dates.
and i just wanted to think about what is a healthy relationship with a client sp.

and of course, i see my sp for sex, no sex and i wouldn't see her. or pay her.
but i have seen her so long,
and i pick girls to see who's company i enjoy,

im just trying to generate some thought that is all


and i don't believe this is only about sex.
an sp told me once every guy has there reason for being here, and it isn't sex.

lonliness, sex with a girl takes that or gives you that illussion, your not so lonly.
insecurity, banging away at an sp makes you feel like a big powerful man.

im reading tom clancy and there is paragraph in there,
where the brits secret service have analized how a spy screws the escorts he sees,
you can tell alot about a person by the way he has sex.

my personal opinion about life, nothing is as simple as it seems

 

[sevenofnine]

just a thought or two
this is only about sex,

i remember a discussion from a bunch of women, on oral sex.
there general comment on oral sex, was it was about power or ego for the man, the control they have the power when a women puts his penis in her mouth.

i have never had greek or riming or anything remote.
my general thought is well shit comes out of there, how is this even remotely sexual.

but its more then that isn't it, its about taboos boundaires, its about power of sticking things up a womens rectum

i remember when i first started this hobby, bbbj was almost unheard of it,
it was only whispered in hush hush terms.
now the discussion is well does she swallow or spit.
greek was out there but no alot of girls offer greek,
now there was a thread of fs bareback,

for sure its sex, but why do you need bbbj as opposed to covered and swallowing. or greek, part of it is the power, the ego, of breaking boundiars and crossing tabboos.

the first time i ever walked into a strip bar, it was like wow,
nice girls don't do that, and i was hooked, that was almost forty years ago.

the only complaint i have againest my sp, would be, i have seen her so long, and so many times, it feels like honey im home.
i miss that feeling of just being bad.

 

[AA_Train]

I agree with the the OP in that everybody has a unique relationship with their SP(s), especially if they are regulars. Over time, even in business, you get to know people, learn about their family,friends,hobbies etc. This can create a more personal connection and more caring towards the other person and there's nothing wrong with that. I think that it behooves the SP to try to create the most personal experience possible and not all of that is going to be of a sexual nature. Some may scoff at that, but I guess it comes down to whether one just wants their knob polished or whether they want a little bit more.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

i remember a discussion from a bunch of women, on oral sex.
there general comment on oral sex, was it was about power or ego for the man, the control they have the power when a women puts his penis in her mouth.

I dunno. I think it's all about perception. Because you see, I can feel quite the opposite of that and instead feel like I have the power, I'm in control and the reaction I can get is an ego thing. That's a huge part of what I find hot about it, about giving as opposed to receiving. Sure, sometimes the chemistry is totally different with someone and I can assume a more submissive role - and that's hot too. I just don't see it as one or the other.

Some time ago, I was discussing what I enjoyed about this work and other impressions and when I told him that one of the things I really enjoyed about it was the feeling of being in control of the situation, he looked both surprised and amused and just commented that's also how he felt and what he enjoyed about it. I found it really interesting and I think it gave us both something to think about.

All lot of it is really about perception and the way you choose the experience and interpret situations and people.

the only complaint i have againest my sp, would be, i have seen her so long, and so many times, it feels like honey im home.
i miss that feeling of just being bad.

It seems that would defeat the purpose of seeing an sp, no? Maybe that's an indication that you might need to change things up a bit. Just a thought..

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Some may scoff at that, but I guess it comes down to whether one just wants their knob polished or whether they want a little bit more.

Totally. The thing is though, that those who are only interested in getting their knob polished have no understanding of why anyone would be interested in anything other than that. That's why they always make the kinds of comments they make. They genuinely assume that because that is all they're interested in, that's also what all other guys are looking for. The thought that they might be totally wrong about that never even occurs to them. If they realized it, they'd feel silly about assuming every man out there, or most of them even, are just like them. They're really not.


And everyone's entitled to want whatever works for them but the scoffing and mocking really seems to me like; why would you be under the impression that being kind of shallow and somewhat one dimensional is somehow better than approaching it one more than one level and being able to gain more out of any interaction (and ultimately not just with sp's) as well as having more to offer. I don't know, I just don't get it I guess. To me, it's a mentality that sort of misses the point and definitely misses opportunities. Anyway, no point trying to explain it to there people - but I do think the attitude isn't anything to boast about. I guess it's not as surprising for the younger guys but seems to me like something you'd kind of grow out of after you've hit 25-30 or something. But that's not really the case, so who knows. It's kind of a limiting way to go through life if you ask me. Oh well.

.. Maybe its time to develop an acutal relationship with your wife instead of forging connections with women who are completley unnattainable to you?

wow Alexis, what super advice on an escort review board.

Certainly is a first. LOL

 

[Unpossible]

Totally. The thing is though, that those who are only interested in getting their knob polished have no understanding of why anyone would be interested in anything other than that. That's why they always make the kinds of comments they make. They genuinely assume that because that is all they're interested in, that's also what all other guys are looking for. The thought that they might be totally wrong about that never even occurs to them. If they realized it, they'd feel silly about assuming every man out there, or most of them even, are just like them. They're really not.


And everyone's entitled to want whatever works for them but the scoffing and mocking really seems to me like; why would you be under the impression that being kind of shallow and somewhat one dimensional is somehow better than approaching it one more than one level and being able to gain more out of any interaction (and ultimately not just with sp's) as well as having more to offer. I don't know, I just don't get it I guess. To me, it's a mentality that sort of misses the point and definitely misses opportunities. Anyway, no point trying to explain it to there people - but I do think the attitude isn't anything to boast about. I guess it's not as surprising for the younger guys but seems to me like something you'd kind of grow out of after you've hit 25-30 or something. But that's not really the case, so who knows. It's kind of a limiting way to go through life if you ask me. Oh well.

It is about getting your knob polished though. How many people pay for escorts and never have sex with them?

To me it sounds like the op is trying to justify paying for sex by saying that he also (gasp!) likes their company.

wow Alexis, what super advice on an escort review board.

Certainly is a first. LOL

But it's the most intelligent post in the thread. If you're just paying to have a pleasant discussion with a woman than you have serious problems in your marriage.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

It is about getting your knob polished though. How many people pay for escorts and never have sex with them?

To me it sounds like the op is trying to justify paying for sex by saying that he also (gasp!) likes their company.

Where did I say it wasn't about sex or that sex had nothing to do with it? I didn't.
It may very well be primarily about sex, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that for many people, it's not *only* about sex. There's more involved in an experience that will be worth it to them. And just getting their knob polished isn't 100% of why they are spending money. It's fine if you don't get it and 100% of why you spend money to see an sp is about getting your knob polished and nothing else, that's your deal. But why would it even matter to you that others have different preferences?


I really don't understand why some of you guys get so indignant about it. People can do whatever they want. Is it any worse to pay for company than to pay to have an sp piss on you, kick you in the balls or change your diaper? The reason people pay is because they can get exactly what they're looking for and have someone focus all their attention on them for the time they're together. So you only want your knob polished? Great, you get what you pay for. Someone want to spend some time pleasing a woman. Great, they get what they pay for too! Want to be humiliated? No problem, there's someone out there where you'll get what you pay for... and so on. That's what the whole appeal about seeing an sp. So why so much bitterness because others don't pay for the same exact reason you do? What difference does it make to you?


Bleh. Sorry but some of you guys are seriously grumpy.

But it's the most intelligent post in the thread. If you're just paying to have a pleasant discussion with a woman than you have serious problems in your marriage.

If you say so. But I'd venture to say that the men who are actually married don't come on perb to have a chick who's "not an escort" nag them about their wife. Just an assumption but hey, I could be wrong. I've just never had anyone make a request so I assumed that's not what men came here for.


Maybe he has tried to connect with his wife and maybe she hasn't reciprocated. We don't know and guess what? It's none of our business either. In this context, it's inappropriate to make these kinds of judgmental comments. If anyone has some issues with the fact that yes, many of the men here are married, they're entitled to having issues with it. But maybe this isn't the best place for them to be then if they have that much of an issue with it and can't help making presumptuous, below-the-belt comments like that. Sorry but it's just simply not the place for it.

 

[sevenofnine]

thankyou for your thoughts and commments, by the way,
i agree with all of them to some extent

and i have allready have concluded its time to pull the plug on this, or scale way back,
it really is only a question of when, this week or next month, or whenever,


not really interested in seeing another sp. the way i poon
my relationships with sps
tend to be more then the standard relationship,
no complaints from the sps i have seen they like like it alot actually.
but i will just leave it there, out of respect for there privacy,
and i don't want to put words in there mouth to,


but for me it just seems way to personal and intimate i just don't want to go there again,

i saw some one different i met on arrangement seekers for awhile. young mid twenties,
she got right in my face asked me alot of personal questions very intimate personal questions, none of which i avoided, had a view nice times, etc,
but i could see the way this was going,
just not in the mood for getting close and intimate with some one, and paying alot of money for it.

i do get it, at some point your enjoying your self with an sp, and she is enjoying it to,
and it all seems so real, it is in fact not an illussion, your both like each other and getting along and look forward to seeing each other, but im the one paying for it,
its my dime, well a hell of alot more then a dime,
but i get it,
sad really,
i have always found this hobby sad the buying selling of sex,
and nothing really something to feel proud about or brag, that you bought some girl.
yet it fills a need, has its place

maybe no one will understand but me
but i needed this,
my father was a rapist, he abused my mother, jail the whole nine yards,

i felt very confused in secure about sex sexuality women,
i used sps as therapy
one in particular, she let me talk, i told her things that i never told any one ever period.
it was a great release for me,
in some ways despite fathering two kids, two sps, actually showed me the joys of sex,

one wild and raunching, the other very classy

no ones journey in life is perfect,
least of all mine,
no one will ever really understand
but i needed to do what i did,

just don't know what to do next, but
i will fiqure it out

i always have,
one thing i owe to my father for being the evil man he was,

he taught me how to survive

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Most men are not looking just for sex from an escort??!?!? It makes sense to me that most women in the sex industry cater to the needs of most men.

ok seriously, where did I say that? I didn't.

I'm not getting into it. It's very possible I'm not explaining it in the best way, I'm finding it tough. But the bottom line is you can't assume everyone sees an sp for exactly the same reasons you do. Just because you're a guy, you can't assume every guy on this planet has the exact same motivations as you do. And why should they? And why does it even matter? It just doesn't.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

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I see escorts on occasion for sex and that's it. Is that one dimensional? I suppose, but definitely not shallow. I understand that some escorts offer more than just sex. I am also aware that some men seek more than just sex from escorts. But men seek what they need, not just what women offer. I don't think that those of us who do not need more than just sex from an escort are shallow.

I totally agree with that and I'm not saying any different, I can certainly enjoy just sex too! What is shallow is someone who cannot possible understand or respect the fact that another man might actually seek and enjoy a different kind of encounter. I'm just really sick of such people having to bash others. That is what I'm ranting about.

 

[vancouver1992]

Well to weigh in to this conversation... i fell in love, as it turns out very one sidely, with a Dominatrix. i saw Her exclusibely for over 5 years. i was in her website pics and videos. We even meet when she retired... And then without warning she did not return my calls or emails. She in the past would go for a couple of weeks with out contacting me so i thought nothing of it.
But when it months without contact... well i slowly got the picture... LOL i am trying to get over it. .. "Back in the sattle..." sort of...

Thanks for reading!
van '92