Do you like women/men to be forward?

[letitrock]

You're describing the alpha studs. A regular guy, on the other hand, would be happy to have just about any girl, controlling or not. And once he gets her, he knows he can't afford to lose her, because if he does it could be a long time before another girl will have him.

I'd act like a doormat too if I ever got a girlfriend. I'd probably even let her fuck other guys. All just so I could get mediocre sex maybe once every couple weeks. It's pathetic, I know, but it's better than celibacy.

Wow man, your sad outlook on your own life is making me feel depressed for you..
You gotta play the hand you were dealt.

Seriously, get off your ass and do something about it. If you're not the best looking guy, build on your strengths. You seem way too desperate. C'mon, letting your gf fuck other guys?

I wouldnt have any of that bs

 

[godfather_77]

I'd act like a doormat too if I ever got a girlfriend. I'd probably even let her fuck other guys. All just so I could get mediocre sex maybe once every couple weeks. It's pathetic, I know, but it's better than celibacy.[/QUOTE]


Is it really? It sounds to me like you have bought in to your "I am not worthwhile" mindset and found, unfortunately many examples to back up this mindset. This is an ingrained pattern, form what you write. If you want some unsolicited advice, seek some professional help. You will be surprised at what can be accomplished. BTW I am talking from a professional stand point, so connect the dots as to what I do

 

[Rotcod]

No, you'd disqualify me as a potential mate as soon as you saw my ugly mug. And even if I were handsome, you'd disqualify me as soon as you realized I'm not the badboy, life-of-the-party type. I just got done with university, and that's all the girls ever went for. There's no grey area. You're either a good looking beer-swilling badboy who's swimming in pussy, or you're a regular guy who either a) gets absolutely nothing the whole four years (at least 25% of guys where I went to school) or b) gets "lucky" and lands one plain jane girlfriend who pussywhips you like crazy, treats sex like a chore, and is probably banging alphas on the side. And that's after having to endure hundreds of painful rejections.

This is the type of attitude that I have had for quite a while, and am just now getting over it.

Women don't want a guy who is bitter and complains a lot. They don't want a guy who will shrivel up and run when life gives them a bucket of lemons. They want a guy with integrity and moral values, who will not compromise them when pressured. They want a guy who can laugh at the face of their adversities and constantly strive to overcome them. Finally, they want a guy who is positive and fun to be around, and is grateful for what they do have, rather than what they do not.

Looks mean nothing to me, not even initial attraction. Because in the end, looks don't equate to someone who is nice to sit around and watch movies with or come to with problems. What good are you if you're nice to look at until you open your mouth? What someone says can make them the ugliest person youve ever seen. And life of the party types never want to grow up. I want an equal, not a child to manage. I am childfree for a reason. I'm personally attracted to a good personality and self confidence. I dated a guy who was 350lbs once, wonderful man too.

My last girlfriend was at least 180 lbs. When I met her, the last thought I had was dating her, even after we became friends. One night she invited me to her place to watch a movie, and it was then she said she liked me, (you can't get more forward than that). It wasn't until we slept together a couple of times that I really started to dig her as relationship material.

 

[WHOA]

I feel the same way about myself as keith, but I'm still out there trying. Even if all I get is a smile and a polite "no thanks"... I got a smile.

 

[moi]

I don't like the stereotypical alpha male.

I like to be the one to approach someone. i like the guy who is shy, doesnt stick out in the crowd, is very intelligent and can hold a conversation. The guys that I love are the ones that can talk hours about the technicalities of computers or other things I don't know much about. The ones that are awkward around girls.

If you feel you are nothing worthy for a girl to be with, maybe you should look on improving yourself. Are you a healthy "socially acceptable" weight? Is your hygeine in order? Educate yourself on different topics of which you can talk about! It's not that hard, anyone can be attractive, even the one-armed man from India. If you don't KNOW what you need to do to improve yourself, ask a lady friend who you trust.

 

[mistressfreyja]

I agree, Moi.

I agree with your sentiments via the quiet, smart, intelligent guy. I've always leaned in that direction. But I found I was stereo-typing. I feel like I lost sight of ALL of the 'other' really good dudes.

I feel like it is detrimental to comment on someone else improving themselves. No one can propogate that change in others. We accept the things we cannot change. And other people fall in the category of "we cannot change.".

I think all one can do is LOVE YOURSELF. Every single day. No matter.

Don't try to make changes for anyone else...b/c those are instable half-assed attempts.Make changes for self. The rest follows suit.

I don't like the stereotypical alpha male.

I like to be the one to approach someone. i like the guy who is shy, doesnt stick out in the crowd, is very intelligent and can hold a conversation. The guys that I love are the ones that can talk hours about the technicalities of computers or other things I don't know much about. The ones that are awkward around girls.

If you feel you are nothing worthy for a girl to be with, maybe you should look on improving yourself. Are you a healthy "socially acceptable" weight? Is your hygeine in order? Educate yourself on different topics of which you can talk about! It's not that hard, anyone can be attractive, even the one-armed man from India. If you don't KNOW what you need to do to improve yourself, ask a lady friend who you trust.

 

[mimi]

great topic

I was thinking about this subject the other day when I, (once again), confirmed that I am hopelessly inept at picking up men. I seem to fall into the 'mild Aspergers' syndrome (not to be confused with hunsperger's sydrome) as I fail to pick up cues, even BIG ones.

Example: A bank security guard, younger and kinda innocent looking, commented on my figure and we fell into a technical discussion on today's standards of beauty. The conversation was spiced with some pretty sweet comments on various body parts, and his security guard buddy joined in....so this lasted about 20 minutes and I left...without asking for a phone number....about a mile down the road I realized he was hitting on me.

Then, when I was feeling rather curious about certain sexual experiences I had read about and thought, "not getting younger...better press on here"....so a fellow I know to be single called for a chat and I simply asked..."hey, wanna have sex some time....?" and I have not heard from him since.

If I didn't escort I would never get laid....I can relate to what Keithks is saying...the West Coast is a tuff place to date...Mr. Peter North has laid it out very well...but...

There is a certain charm in the professor type, and what is ugly? Really? Beauty is strongly related to hygiene...compatibility is more about having things to do together that both partners enjoy.....besides tv....

I once dated a guy with a similar outlook as what Keithks has expressed. Nothing I did could convince him I loved him...I gave up trying..."why would you want to be with someone like me?", was his constant refrain..he just kept assuming I was after him for his money (even though I spent none of it) and in the end I left...

I prefer men to be forward, and, understanding of a woman's need to think on it a bit...and ask a second time. I would still probably misunderstand...

 

[Krustee]

I prefer men to be forward, and, understanding of a woman's need to think on it a bit...and ask a second time. I would still probably misunderstand...

Hey!

You wanna watch TV sometime?



Uh... I mean ...
Would you care to join me in the perusal of a quality educational program on KCTS while enjoying a nice bottle of Perrier?

 

[mimi]

As long as it was about coitis and various large African mammals!

 

[Krustee]

As long as it was about coitis and various large African mammals!

You mean coitus right?
- like this?

 

[Purrr VertIcal]

Yes!

Forward.
Be Real. Be honest.

Forward with connections, desires, can be verrry sexy from Women.
Has to be done well...clever and alluring, even better!

I've heard stories of guys simply saying to a Woman they just met,
when the chemistry is starting to sizzle, or just on a bold hunch,
"Wanna Fuck?"

I wonder how this flies...? I should an experiment, do a scientific study.
...take a (stripper) pole (poll).

 

[mimi]

COIT IS COIT US...........SLIP OF THE NAUGHTY FINGER

BUT, I instinctively understand that you are my superior in thought and word, and most likely, deed....

M

 

[bobby]

i dont particularly like forward women and i rarely get them, i'm too good looking they're scared of me

when i want to date i always look for girls on the street and i always lay it on the line, you get a lot of rejection but most girls are flattered and nice if you do it right.

you dont mension sex though.

if you see a girl you find atractive. go up to her, dont be meek but dont be threating.

say excuse me can you help me out for a second say it with a smile, she will say yes most times.

then look at her smiling and say 'wow you're really cute i was going to ask you where holt renfrew is but instead how bout we grab a quick coffee. make sure you're smiling

the answer is usualy they can't once in a while they do. if they cant ,say cool, how bought your number and we can do it another time.

you'll get lots of i'd love to but i'm seeing someone, when that happens, just say cool enjoy the rest of your day.

 

[Krustee]

COIT IS COIT US...........SLIP OF THE NAUGHTY FINGER

BUT, I instinctively understand that you are my superior in thought and word, and most likely, deed....

M

Very good girl!

Wanna do the "wild thang"?


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[bobby]

I was thinking about this subject the other day when I, (once again), confirmed that I am hopelessly inept at picking up men. I seem to fall into the 'mild Aspergers' syndrome (not to be confused with hunsperger's sydrome) as I fail to pick up cues, even BIG ones.

Example: A bank security guard, younger and kinda innocent looking, commented on my figure and we fell into a technical discussion on today's standards of beauty. The conversation was spiced with some pretty sweet comments on various body parts, and his security guard buddy joined in....so this lasted about 20 minutes and I left...without asking for a phone number....about a mile down the road I realized he was hitting on me.

Then, when I was feeling rather curious about certain sexual experiences I had read about and thought, "not getting younger...better press on here"....so a fellow I know to be single called for a chat and I simply asked..."hey, wanna have sex some time....?" and I have not heard from him since.

If I didn't escort I would never get laid....I can relate to what Keithks is saying...the West Coast is a tuff place to date...Mr. Peter North has laid it out very well...but...

There is a certain charm in the professor type, and what is ugly? Really? Beauty is strongly related to hygiene...compatibility is more about having things to do together that both partners enjoy.....besides tv....

I once dated a guy with a similar outlook as what Keithks has expressed. Nothing I did could convince him I loved him...I gave up trying..."why would you want to be with someone like me?", was his constant refrain..he just kept assuming I was after him for his money (even though I spent none of it) and in the end I left...

I prefer men to be forward, and, understanding of a woman's need to think on it a bit...and ask a second time. I would still probably misunderstand...

the guard should have asked you for your number. i have friends who complain about women in vancouver. then i say ya? how many have you asked out in the last two months?

none is usualy the answer. if i enjoyed are chat, i'd have said before you left, thanks for the chat i really enjoyed it and would like to chat more, give me your number so i can call you.