Do you like to try your luck in a casino?

[rhydogg]

This is why i only play poker, at least i can somewhat control my game and often leave a couple hundred $$$ up.. Not often do i lose and what i do i always make back next time..

Feb earnings were $1500 from poker alone, but pails in comparison to hitting my "bad beat" which i'll keep to myself!

 

[way.tomuch]

I only play blackjack.. if u have players at the table that know how to play, and dont mind losing a shoe or 2 ,, u can make money,, last trip to Vegas my SO said i made just over 16,000... that includes everything drinks etc etc taken off the top... oh and never spend your lunch money... good luck.. last year ( 2012 ) i made ( yes profit ) 26,000. play lots and play hard good luck

 

[storm rider]

I played a fair amount of Blackjack. I was thinking about playing Texas Hold'em but sitting at the table for 3 hours and keeping your focus for that long of time can be difficult. How good are the players at the poker table???

I myself have run into some very good poker players and many more bad ones.I have gotten the feel
of quite a few players locally who try to "purchase" and I have burned them...hell one time when I was out
of the hand I saw the gal trying to purchase the pot and I told the guy who was under the gun...he
folded as he believed her bluff....then she kicked him in the balls and showed garbage when she
raked in the pot.

The one thing that pisses me off at the poker table is the "chip stack bully"...the type of douchebag
that will raise a pot that has 6-8 callers on a straddle bet of $5 just to steal the blinds and then
when he/she gets 1 or 2 callers on that $80 overbuy goes and puts them all in.

There is nothing worse than a sore loser though and I have no sympathy for them.

I love playing 1-2 no limit poker...so much so that I rarely even hit the craps table anymore.

SR

 

[Sonny]

Locally I go once a while and play baccarrat. I always leave after I win $200. Usually I make it in about 15 -20 minutes. I have a loss limit when I will also leave, but I have hit it only once in the past year. I never make gambling a habit by going to the casino too often. It's easier to stay clear-headed that way.

If I am abroad, the amounts change and obviously I play every day, but the methodology remains the same. I go for fun and girls. I leave even or up... I don't care how much I win, only no lose.

And, no, no discussion on the play....

 

[blazejowski]

Feb earnings were $1500 from poker alone, but pails in comparison to hitting my "bad beat" which i'll keep to myself!

Spoken like a true gambler... lol

 

[rhydogg]

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Originally Posted by rhydogg

Feb earnings were $1500 from poker alone, but pails in comparison to hitting my "bad beat" which i'll keep to myself!

Spoken like a true gambler... lol


Amazing what a little experience and and a set of balls can do for you... Lol call it luck my friend haha!

 

[huggzy]

I find it incredibly amusing how many people who play the casino table games and slots (that's all casino games with the exception of poker) have little to no understanding at all about how probability and statistics work, how these games are set up so that the odds are always in favour of the house and against the player (yes, that means that over a lengthy enough sample size, players on average will lose more money than they win over time), and how few of these people actually understand that they do not have enough control over anything in their game to make the odds in their favour (all a great table game player can do is mitigate the odds so that they can keep the odds the house enjoys to a minimum).

Do most of you realize that you have no control over the outcome of most of your games. If you happen to win its just because of dumb luck - not because of some special system you did or formula you run. Its not because "the previous XX number of spins hit black so now the odds must be in favour hitting red" (because odds don't work that way), its not because the patterns on the baccarat board favour any specific outcome more than any other etc. etc. etc. Most people do not understand that you might be the best blackjack player who ever lived, and, unless you're able to count cards, you are more likely to lose than win because of how the house odds are stacked against you.

Now if you play poker, you have far more control over the outcome and your earning potential because you're not playing against the house - you're playing against other players and because it is a game of skill (with an element of luck to consider) rather than being a complete game of chance like all the other table games. That said, most players still don't win over the long run...its estimated that about 10% of all players (the very, very good players) will consistently win money over the long haul - the rest lose. Of the rest there are a large number of good players (maybe 50% in a poker room who regularly play) where over the long run they ultimately end up passing money back and forth against other good regular players but end up on the negative side of the ledger because of the rake (casino commission). Of course the bad players get feasted upon and stand no chance when they come in. They have to take their lumps until they figure out the game.

In poker, a great player can anticipate and assume his skill will earn him good money. The same cannot be said about any of the table games or slots.

 

[abooteh]

I find it incredibly amusing how many people who play the casino table games and slots (that's all casino games with the exception of poker) have little to no understanding at all about how probability and statistics work, how these games are set up so that the odds are always in favour of the house and against the player (yes, that means that over a lengthy enough sample size, players on average will lose more money than they win over time), and how few of these people actually understand that they do not have enough control over anything in their game to make the odds in their favour (all a great table game player can do is mitigate the odds so that they can keep the odds the house enjoys to a minimum).

A million times this.

The exception being something like card counting which can skew the odds back into the player's favor. However, this is hugely frowned upon in all casinos so don't expect to be doing it long.

Every game has a built in house edge. For the OP who was playing black/red, you should have been playing Baccarat. It has slightly better odds, even though both cases were "pick A or B"

 

[PlayfulAlex]

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Originally Posted by rhydogg

Feb earnings were $1500 from poker alone, but pails in comparison to hitting my "bad beat" which i'll keep to myself!

Spoken like a true gambler... lol


Amazing what a little experience and and a set of balls can do for you... Lol call it luck my friend haha!

Luck...and timing! Some people can play for years and never hit the bad beat...congrats!

 

[rhydogg]

Luck...and timing! Some people can play for years and never hit the bad beat...congrats!

Appreciate that, quad Q over quad 3!!! Ya i know guys been playing 20 years and never even sat at a table that's hit the bad beat.

 

[bcneil]

There is NO POSSIBLE WAY TO BEAT BLACKJACK.
Even people who think they can card count. Most people don't actually do it right to begin with.
But, the slim advantage it once had is gone, since they use 8 decks and shuffle once they use up about 2/3rds the stack.
Sure you can win some nights, but long term impossible. Thats why most of us can rattle off 10-20 famous poker players.....can you name a famous blackjack player?

Now poker....it is profitable, but you have to be a good player. Vegas is the best place to play. I think partially because online poker is banned.
People from Europe and Canada, can practise online, then simply destroy most vegas tourists. Obviously there are lots of locals and pros in Vegas too, gotta recognize them.
But once you get use to online cash games, and how the game is played. You see all the horrible play in Vegas live games. 3-4 limpers in every pot. You raise them, and they all call....just using the basics you can make money. Raise or fold, rarely call preflop and your golden. Don't get involved in these limpy games. Raise, then continuation bet. But thats my take........most people call way too much.

 

[storm rider]

There is NO POSSIBLE WAY TO BEAT BLACKJACK.
Even people who think they can card count. Most people don't actually do it right to begin with.
But, the slim advantage it once had is gone, since they use 8 decks and shuffle once they use up about 2/3rds the stack.
Sure you can win some nights, but long term impossible. Thats why most of us can rattle off 10-20 famous poker players.....can you name a famous blackjack player?

Now poker....it is profitable, but you have to be a good player. Vegas is the best place to play. I think partially because online poker is banned.
People from Europe and Canada, can practise online, then simply destroy most vegas tourists. Obviously there are lots of locals and pros in Vegas too, gotta recognize them.
But once you get use to online cash games, and how the game is played. You see all the horrible play in Vegas live games. 3-4 limpers in every pot. You raise them, and they all call....just using the basics you can make money. Raise or fold, rarely call preflop and your golden. Don't get involved in these limpy games. Raise, then continuation bet. But thats my take........most people call way too much.

Best hand I ever won was not in Vegas but locally...got dealt a pocket pair and juiced the pot
pre-flop and I hit quads....I then set the bear trap and checked...on the turn an ace hit and I checked
and just hoping somebody had an ace and somebody else had poacket aces...the next guy after my
made a decent bet and got 3 callers plus me...I checked the river which was a nothing card and
the same guy makes the bet..2 of the 3 fold and the guy who had the button raised.....so I raised
his raise(check raising is fun :thumb and the other guy called...the raiser showed ace queen and the
bettor who called felt like gloating and loudly said A-K....I rolled over my quads and bitched
about neither one of them going all in LOL....it was about a $600 pot and the quad bonus was
good for an additional $220.

Damn I love playing poker.

SR

 

[agentman]

I stopped playing Black Jack just recently cuz of the continous card shuffling machines; if your on a hot streak you can't take a break or use the restroom. For me i thought about playing poker online, i have never played poker at the Casino. Atleast online i can test the waters at my own pace as a newbie, i thought about using playbc.com . Anyone tried them before??? or any other decent sites?

 

[Sonny]

I stopped playing Black Jack just recently cuz of the continous card shuffling machines

Those machines just absolutely kill the game.

In Macau at the Venetian Resort casino some tables are also using continuous car shuffling machines for Baccarrat.

 

[Jaybll]

Recently, they've been taking the shuffle machines out for blackjack games for a new double-deck(only 60% of the cards gets played though) and there's a 6-deck shoe(kinda like the baccarat shoe, around 5 decks or so gets played).

 

[bcneil]

I stopped playing Black Jack just recently cuz of the continous card shuffling machines; if your on a hot streak you can't take a break or use the restroom. For me i thought about playing poker online, i have never played poker at the Casino. Atleast online i can test the waters at my own pace as a newbie, i thought about using playbc.com . Anyone tried them before??? or any other decent sites?

I use pokerstars it has pretty much any kind of game possible.

Just because poker is beatable, doesn't mean its easy.

I found the Harrington books helpful. To play online you really need to download a good HUD as well.
Poker is like blackjack in a sense, anyone can have a lucky night. But to be profitable long term, you have to really be a student of the game.
The best part is you never stop learning.

 

[trackstar]

I live at the casino and only play blackjack. I average around $1500/week and have only lost $100 once in the last year. I make more there than at work. Get comped for most of the concerts too!

 

[westcoast555]

Can you elaborate on this? How do house odds change over time. Please define a run from a statistical perspective as a function of house odds on the very next hand played? Also, when does one know they are on a run? If I have two coins and toss them simultaneously, what are the odds they both come up heads, heads and tails and tails? How does the previous occurrence of an event influence the statistical probability of the next event, all things being equal over time?

I believe that's called the gambler's fallacy. The odds are always 50/50. But as you increase the samples size, the odds form more of a 'normal distribution'. Basically you can flip a coin ten times and get 6 heads and 4 tails... but if you flip a coin 10,000 times you won't get 6000 heads and 4000 tails. Over time the odds will converge towards a 'normal distribution'. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but this is how I understand the probabilities of gambling. And guess what... over time as you increase the amount of 'throws', 'plays' or 'tries'... the odds ALWAYS favour the house. That's how they make money.

 

[trackstar]

Late at nite when it's slow in there is my favorite time to go...

That's the only time to go if you want to make money. The daytime rookies fuck the table so bad!

 

[Larry Storch]

I used to play BJ at Nanaimo, but haven't in years. Ever since they brought in the machines. I won't even call them shufflers, they just keep a continuous stream of cards coming. I've seen the house advantage increase over the years. A 6 for a dealer isn't even a break card anymore. I remember you could go in with $50 and play BJ for hours and walk out with a little left. Now you can sit down with $100 and it can be gone in 20 min. It's really rare to see anyone winning big at BJ these days. What really capped it off for me was when I saw a dealer at the Texas Hold 'Em table pull a deck out of one that was already sorted. When they close a table they have to arrange the cards by suit and from ace to king. These machines can do that. I asked the dealer if the machine could tell the difference between a J of hearts and a J of diamonds and he said yes. Not saying they are cheating, but anytime you have a machine that can do that and it has a chip in it, you can program it.

Basically all I play is Pai-Gow and a few select slots. I've actually done better on some penny slots at $2 a spin than at the tables.

Maybe I need to go to View Royale?