Oh the rich get richer and the poor get children, in the meantime, in between time, ain't we got fun.
In my case, at my age.... SPs only.
Do you guys have sex exclusively with SPs or mix SPs with "normal" hookups from Tinder / bars / etc.?
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In my case, at my age.... SPs only.
When I was a broke student with no job it was fun to spend the time pursuing and chasing women and getting laid after the "hunt".
Now, I have a high income and excess cash but no free time. Don't give two shits about the chase or playing games. I just want a discreet hottie who knows how to screw for 30 mins, or an hour, and then I'm out. If I feel like pumping a 25 year old redhead with a tiny rack, or a chubby 45 year old blonde with a big fat butt and DD's, I can find them and book them within minutes.
There's a reason you see super wealthy businessmen, athletes, entertainers, politicians, etc., see sex workers, it's because they value their time and discretion, and the cost is what it is because the money runs plentiful.
Now, I have a high income and excess cash but no free time. Don't give two shits about the chase or playing games. I just want a discreet hottie who knows how to screw for 30 mins, or an hour, and then I'm out. If I feel like pumping a 25 year old redhead with a tiny rack, or a chubby 45 year old blonde with a big fat butt and DD's, I can find them and book them within minutes.
There's a reason you see super wealthy businessmen, athletes, entertainers, politicians, etc., see sex workers, it's because they value their time and discretion, and the cost is what it is because the money runs plentiful.
Your post made me realize this forum auto-links Ashley Madison when we type SB
Kind of wild after their previous data leak scandals, no?
Seeking and SugerDaddyMeet are two that have been around for almost 20 years now. Secrete Benefits seems popular too - heck if LeoList is pushing it, it must be good!
I might sound like a moron but for me having casual sex would feel like cheating on my wife... So just SP's... and my wife of course
Hmm I find for a lot of men it would do the opposite. Seeing SP's can be bad for your confidence and self esteem as they are paid to be nice to you and talk to you. Kind of like how guys think the waitress is flirting with them when all she wants is a tip. Everyone starts somewhere but I think it's best to enter into this world with a good sense of self first.
Society will tell you that by seeing SP's you are likely an ugly loser who has no success with women and who puts women on a pedestal; that you would not get laid without having to pay for it. There's a certain stigma and shame that comes with the territory that a guy would feel when he gets the royal treatment from quality SP's but then goes home alone where he keeps swiping on Tinder only to get turned down by even the grossest women. This eats away at you until you believe you are a worthless loser.
I would say the best thing a man can do in this position is to be the best version of himself day after day and get out there and build his confidence with women, in his career or business, at the gym, whatever it takes. There will be a lot of losses and some wins but that's what it takes to build, it's not easy but nothing worthwhile is easy. When that confidence translates into life successes, you realize attractive women are a dime a dozen and a confident successful man is far more rare. A woman's opinion of you won't shake you and you stop putting them on a pedestal because you know your worth.
Women from a young age know how to use their charm to manipulate men and they can see a sucker from a mile away. Once you rely on women for validation you're setting yourself up for failure. These girls will say anything to make you feel like king of the castle but then inside can't wait for the session to be over so they can get back to going on their phone, talking to guys they actually want to date, or planning for their next client.
Today, is there an alternative to CL or has that been taken over by dating apps?
I joined AM when I was in my late twenties (I'm in my 40s now). This was 2010. I never got anywhere with it back then. It felt like I put in more time pursuing the soon to be divorcees than I could have just paid to see a sex worker with less time and money. The general behavior of users back then was that they were either cheating or soon to be divorced, though a lot of swinger couples were on there too. It seemed more strings attached such as almost committing to these people rather than hooking up and going from there.
I don't see how seeing an SP would make you more confident. Unless you are lying to yourself and telling yourself these women you are paying are really into you. I can see how the sex with them can make you less needy for sex, which would then be more attractive to women, but that isn't the same thing as confidence.
EDIT: It looks like this guy had a pretty mixed up/confused idea of what confidence actually is. Seeing as his response to people replying to him, is to delete his original comments.
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Seeing sex workers can definitely make you more confident in your normie life. Every single human being needs touch and intimacy. It’s a human want and need. We absolutely can make you feel good about yourself in a paid for time slot. Which bleeds out into every day life. I’ve seen it happen with my own clients over and over again. I think there’s a few negative Nancie’s here. A little less judging and a bit more snogging is what’s needed here, I think 🤔 😘
At the moment, a mix of FWB and my regulars. It doesn't fit my schedule to go out to meet people often. I do go on "normal" hookups but my but my tolerance for flakey and or flippant behaviour is much lower than when I was younger. It also doesn't seem as fun compared to catching up and having fun with people you already know.
I do a mix , lately I been rotating through SB and FWB
In the past when I was busy with full time work and family life , booking a SP was quick and simple and fit my lifestyle
Currently there is less burden with work and family life , I have time to vet and chase
In the past when I was busy with full time work and family life , booking a SP was quick and simple and fit my lifestyle
Currently there is less burden with work and family life , I have time to vet and chase
I like to keep things simple and stick with providers. It's quick, simple, direct, discreet....and really there is a more clear understanding of the relationship (albeit brief as it is) that there are limits once the deed is done.
.... being 50+ myself, and picking up women of similar age at a bar is a different experience than when you do it as a young person. Granted there are women at my age who still value their independence and look for hook ups on the side, but I haven't met them... instead most of my cases I've seen, have women pretend long enough to want the one-night stand, but sometime during the experience the upselling to a full on relationship becomes clear eventually. Without going into a full blown story, there's usually an angle that involves opening up our lives because she wants to quickly establish and lockdown a relationship... "ready to settle.... right NOW" types....
It was easier in my twenties and thirties, but it's not like I can get with that age group alone in my 50s; and I'm not "the most interesting person in the world" type to pull that off anymore.
.... being 50+ myself, and picking up women of similar age at a bar is a different experience than when you do it as a young person. Granted there are women at my age who still value their independence and look for hook ups on the side, but I haven't met them... instead most of my cases I've seen, have women pretend long enough to want the one-night stand, but sometime during the experience the upselling to a full on relationship becomes clear eventually. Without going into a full blown story, there's usually an angle that involves opening up our lives because she wants to quickly establish and lockdown a relationship... "ready to settle.... right NOW" types....
It was easier in my twenties and thirties, but it's not like I can get with that age group alone in my 50s; and I'm not "the most interesting person in the world" type to pull that off anymore.
" Society"..
Thank pretty much sums it up. Society is the problem here! do not comply and resist at all costs
You can make more money to compensate for any unsatisfying sessions with escorts.
You can never recoup time wasted on women who play games and lead you on but never put out.
Wasting night after night on dinners or whatever vs a 5 minute phone call to an beautiful woman who is happy to accommodate me...
Well, I'm sure it won't happen again
But if you are looking for SB girls, PM me, I have a 2-3 leads if you want. My trip to Vancouver next week fell through so... I am at the point in my life where I DO NOT have time or patience to play tinder game or go to bar to find a hook up.
I would rater pay someone to have a play date.
Discreet, fast, get in & get out.
I would rater pay someone to have a play date.
Discreet, fast, get in & get out.
I haven't seen an SP in over a year. I've been trying to make it in the world with dating apps.
Dating sucks. I have to pay a $60/month subscription just to get matches, and when I do get matches, some of them unmatch immediately (they swiped by mistake), some just never reply to my message, the rest have to endure the "getting to know you" conversational hellscape, and then on the rare times I do hit it off with someone enough to actually get a date, the date has almost always sucked.
To get laid once I might have to invest weeks or even months of time into the app, and none of the hookups I've had have ever come anywhere close to the experiences I've had with SPs anyways. Thinking of how girls like Mia Kane and Misha Milenkovic have left me daydreaming of them years later, while none of my "civilian" hookups have been worth remembering at all, except for a string of absolutely horrible experiences. 🤷♂️
Dating sucks. I have to pay a $60/month subscription just to get matches, and when I do get matches, some of them unmatch immediately (they swiped by mistake), some just never reply to my message, the rest have to endure the "getting to know you" conversational hellscape, and then on the rare times I do hit it off with someone enough to actually get a date, the date has almost always sucked.
To get laid once I might have to invest weeks or even months of time into the app, and none of the hookups I've had have ever come anywhere close to the experiences I've had with SPs anyways. Thinking of how girls like Mia Kane and Misha Milenkovic have left me daydreaming of them years later, while none of my "civilian" hookups have been worth remembering at all, except for a string of absolutely horrible experiences. 🤷♂️
