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If someone is advertising services, asking to be on a DNR list (or to just not be reviewed, regardless of the list) is asking for something that is unrealistic. I would never speak about an experience I've had with a civilian through friends or at a coffee shop and started dating but that's because she didn't put herself into a public domain of commerce. Providers do. If they were low key, under the radar and not advertising on this or any forum, or not advertising period, then I can agree with the idea of DNR, but for anyone that is openly advertising AND making marketing claims about how wonderful they are to be with, you're fair game as long as the reviews are tasteful. I find the idea of advertisers to request DNR to be selfish and incredibly self serving.
Ok how about this; you can review me if I can review you?
 

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The talk of DNR list is pretty pointless; it's a controlled concept strictly within the confines of Perb. It's rather difficult to police the rest of the Internet. You could theoretically find reviews in all corners of the Internet and the sad matter of fact is, SW cannot control that, even if reviews are exaggerated, fake, whatever.

Oh yeah also “the cost of doing business” doesn’t really apply to a profession that is already super stigmatised. A bad review could literally mean the difference between eating or not eating for some of us. If this was all above board there would be no need for a specialty review site just for sex workers; we’d all be on Yelp right now 😂 write to your MP and fight for decrim!
Agree with why reviews a lot of reviews suck (whole lot that can be said), but have to disagree with this. Just because it (a bad review, regardless of legitimacy) sucks, doesn't change the fact that it can't be policed outside of Perb. The same concept applies to other 'normal' review websites like the other poster said. Perb has an incentive to maintain good standing (e.g. weed out shills, keeping reviews 'within bounds', etc.), but not necessarily everywhere else. I'd be interested to know if there are non-paying advertisers that are on the Perb DNR list.

And by all means, review pooners (maybe not allowed on Perb but IDK), but obviously it's not a good look for the SW. There are some things that customers pay for implicitly (or it could be explicit if they want); it's safe to presume privacy is one of those things.
 

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If that's what you and others think is selfish and self serving, then I'll be that. Y'all want the respect to have discretion and not want folks or your S.O's knowing your paying for our time, it is absolutely
my want and right for discretion as well, for my own reasons. Point, blank, simple. If you have itchy review fingers, don't bother booking with me, as it clearly states in my advertisements.
 

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We've already been down that road, @CharleeBeckett :) and you thanked me for it but we both know that's beside the point. The tone of your question however denotes that you believe this is a two way street, which I don't believe it to be. Sure, you could review me or any of your other clients, but then you're shooting yourself in the foot if it's negative as that would potentially alienate future "friends". As a provider, that is publicly advertising your services, you're also advertising trust, in that our identities will be kept confidential. Your clients are breaking the law, after all, among other potential confidentiality risks. You are not. I'm not aiming to devalue your point as I see the human side of this but I think I see this as more of a black & white issue than you do.

BTW, I just noticed your new profile image. Much more befitting of your beauty;)
 

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A touring SP once told me that one reviewer wrote explicit descriptions of her tattoos and exact locations putting her real identity at risk. Since then, she put herself on the DNR list and was able to get all her existing reviews deleted. If an SP doesn’t want any reviews, just respect that and let it be.
 

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We've already been down that road, @CharleeBeckett :) and you thanked me for it but we both know that's beside the point. The tone of your question however denotes that you believe this is a two way street, which I don't believe it to be. Sure, you could review me or any of your other clients, but then you're shooting yourself in the foot if it's negative as that would potentially alienate future "friends". As a provider, that is publicly advertising your services, you're also advertising trust, in that our identities will be kept confidential. Your clients are breaking the law, after all, among other potential confidentiality risks. You are not. I'm not aiming to devalue your point as I see the human side of this but I think I see this as more of a black & white issue than you do.

BTW, I just noticed your new profile image. Much more befitting of your beauty;)
maybe we do review you and you just don’t know about it 😉
 

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I'm guessing you are not on the DNR list otherwise all your reviews should be deleted, good or bad.
No, I am not and not without inquiring to be on the PERB DNR list. Unfortunately, the criteria to be on it, is quite dismal and I should be grateful I haven't experienced any of those things to qualify.
So, I simply promote DNR in my advertisements and profiles.
 
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I can't speak for fake negative reviews as that is obviously just plain wrong. It is however, a cost of doing business sometimes whether we like it or not. I know bcoz I run one myself. Reviews are a tool and u take the bad with the good however unfortunate it may be.

I'm hopeful DNR ladies don't coerce clients into leaving only positive reviews but it does irk me to think of a business critiquing a review before "allowing" it to be posted.
DNR serves a purpose and not to hide bad service. Many so called gentlemen on this site write reviews like they are writing for Penthouse forum, I know I'm old. Any way the point is, a large number of reviews are very graphic, giving the impression that you should expect the same experience as the writer. That could be not be further from the truth. You are compromising the ladies safety if they don't provide the exact experience the writer had. Shoved it down her throat, she took it like a champ, swallowed every drop, she provided a BBBJ are terms used far to much.

Allowing the SP to critique a review before posting is a way to prevent graphic details from being posted that could compromise her safety. there are just some things that should be left behind closed doors. A review should comment on LAS, not provide a detailed description of how virile and amazing the writer was. There is no reason for the graphic details, yet they still remain in many reviews. If you review a Service Provider, LAS with a few polite details, should be sufficient.

DNR is also a way for some ladies fearing for their safety, to stay under the radar from bad clients or stalkers. This is more prevalent in this industry than one cares to imagine.

If the service was bad or you were ripped off you should definitely post a comment and if they are DNR, talk to the MODS. DNR is not etched in stone, it is a courtesy.

Some of you above act like this is a boys club, looking out for their fellow hobbyists. You don't even know who they are, yet you feel you need to contribute to help out a "Brother" Really? lmao

You should look at it from their point of view and be grateful these wonderful beautiful ladies allow you to see them.

Don't give me the crap about how you are paying them and you expect such and such. You are not paying these ladies for anything else than their time. What happens during that time is decided by two consenting adults. So don't expect something simply because you read it on a review board. And don't berate them until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Some of you guys just don't get it. And local guy, you are a complete a....ole

Bob
 

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DNR serves a purpose and not to hide bad service. Many so called gentlemen on this site write reviews like they are writing for Penthouse forum, I know I'm old. Any way the point is, a large number of reviews are very graphic, giving the impression that you should expect the same experience as the writer. That could be not be further from the truth. You are compromising the ladies safety if they don't provide the exact experience the writer had. Shoved it down her throat, she took it like a champ, swallowed every drop, she provided a BBBJ are terms used far to much.

Allowing the SP to critique a review before posting is a way to prevent graphic details from being posted that could compromise her safety. there are just some things that should be left behind closed doors. A review should comment on LAS, not provide a detailed description of how virile and amazing the writer was. There is no reason for the graphic details, yet they still remain in many reviews. If you review a Service Provider, LAS with a few polite details, should be sufficient.

DNR is also a way for some ladies fearing for their safety, to stay under the radar from bad clients or stalkers. This is more prevalent in this industry than one cares to imagine.

If the service was bad or you were ripped off you should definitely post a comment and if they are DNR, talk to the MODS. DNR is not etched in stone, it is a courtesy.

Some of you above act like this is a boys club, looking out for their fellow hobbyists. You don't even know who they are, yet you feel you need to contribute to help out a "Brother" Really? lmao

You should look at it from their point of view and be grateful these wonderful beautiful ladies allow you to see them.

Don't give me the crap about how you are paying them and you expect such and such. You are not paying these ladies for anything else than their time. What happens during that time is decided by two consenting adults. So don't expect something simply because you read it on a review board. And don't berate them until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Some of you guys just don't get it. And local guy, you are a complete a....ole

Bob

You good Sir have described what DNR is really all about, in a very comprehensive fashion . It's about each Woman's personal comfort level, and Safety !

If I may add my Nickel's worth... based on some of the Comments, as another reminder .
PERB might stand for something obvious, but, ultimately it's an Escort Advertisement site .

Fully funded by those same Escorts, some of who may prefer to have a DNR status for their own personal Reasons . Which IMHO should be respected !

Without these Paid-Advertisers, 99.9% of which are Women ! This Board wouldn't exist .
I wonder how many of the harsh critics of DNR, would be prepared to pay a Monthly fee, to participate on this Board ?

If DNR irks You for some reason, please add it to your List of why You won't see some Ladies .
It's expressed constantly on this Board . She requires a Reference, a Deposit, an E-Transfer etc..., the List goes on .

The only Comment I personally didn't agree with Bob on, is the LAS rating System for a Review .
All of those points are purely Subjective, so what do they really provide the Reader ?


I'll use three recent ESC Reviews as Examples, as I'm fairly confident She's comfortable with Reviews, from her personal Statements on her Website . Two of which demonstrate the difference between what I think are respectful Reviews, and one which illustrates why some Women prefer to be DNR .

https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/emmy-st-claire-experience.306624/

https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/emmy-st-claire-8771.304546/

https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/emmy-st-claire.302085/

The two respectful Reviews give Me everything I need to know, about whether I decide to see a Woman, or not . Well I've used up my Nickel ! LOL 🤣

Mr Q.
 

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I find this thread interesting and after reading it I have more questions than answers. I review ladies that I like with the desire of helping them get some more exposure and to help other Perberts have a positive experience.

That being said, I do get a bit too descriptive on occaision but it would be hard to do a restaurant review without describing the food. However,I am not here to make the Bros think I am some sort of pornstar.
 
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I find this thread interesting and after reading it I have more questions than answers. I review ladies that I like with the desire of helping them get some more exposure and to help other Perberts have a positive experience.

That being said, I do get a bit too descriptive on occaision but it would be hard to do a restaurant review without describing the food. However,I am not here to make the Bros think I am some sort of pornstar.
I get what you’re saying, but remember: we are people, not food. This is sex, one of the most personal things a person can do. Please try to stay tasteful.
 

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I get what you’re saying, but remember: we are people, not food. This is sex, one of the most personal things a person can do. Please try to stay tasteful.
I completely agree, reviews should definitely prioritize the fact that SPs are human beings first & foremost.
However, the "we are people, not food" analogy only goes so far; this is a review board where the quality of the service is being reviewed by the consumers of said service, not the humanity of the providers! People aren't the same as food, absolutely, but the overall experience being provided by a restaurant should be fair game for a legitimate review... after all, it's not just food cost that separates a super high-end restaurant from a fast-food joint, it's a plethora of factors, tangible and intangible, that make the difference between a $10 receipt and $200+ bill.

I am familiar with that business and Yelp! was the beginning of the end (search YouTube for Anthony Bourdain denigrating "Yelpers") because every little schmuck who wasn't popular in high school got a sense of entitlement and drunk on revenge when sitting anonymously behind a keyboard... however, legitimate & respectful reviews of restaurants, plays, books, art shows, movies, etc. have always had a place in our society. So maybe a worthy goal is that PERB should try to be the New York Times Book Review rather than Yelp!... that is up to "us" each time we write a review.

Are some reviews too graphic? Yes... but how does that get realistically policed beyond a "don't be a douche" ethos? As uncomfortable as those may be for some providers to read (and other members here, trust me) it doesn't negate the need & function of this board. SPs who want to be "DNR" seem to want it both ways. Some may have enough allure and a word-of-mouth following that it doesn't impact their business. Fair enough. But beyond the legitimate concerns around not being outed within a certain community (won't go down that rabbit hole but I think most regulars on this board know what I'm talking about) as long as reviews are respectful, then the existence of this board is meant to be mutually beneficial. It serves to protect the consumers from the scammers and providers who simply do not deliver what is being advertised - whether that is non-representative photos or inaccurate prices or outright lies - and it also serves as a forum for stellar providers to amplify their marketing free of charge!

It should be a "win-win" situation as long as people on both sides of the equation behave honestly & respectfully.
 
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I completely agree, reviews should definitely prioritize the fact that SPs are human beings first & foremost.
However, the "we are people, not food" analogy only goes so far; this is a review board where the quality of the service is being reviewed by the consumers of said service, not the humanity of the providers! People aren't the same as food, absolutely, but the overall experience being provided by a restaurant should be fair game for a legitimate review... after all, it's not just food cost that separates a super high-end restaurant from a fast-food joint, it's a plethora of factors, tangible and intangible, that make the difference between a $10 receipt and $200+ bill.

Are some reviews too graphic? Yes... but how does that get realistically policed beyond a "don't be a douche" ethos? As uncomfortable as those may be for some providers to read (and other members here, trust me) it doesn't negate the need & function of this board. SPs who want to be "DNR" seem to want it both ways. Some may have enough allure and a word-of-mouth following that it doesn't impact their business. Fair enough. But beyond the legitimate concerns around not being outed within a certain community (won't go down that rabbit hole but I think most regulars on this board know what I'm talking about) as long as reviews are respectful, then the existence of this board is meant to be mutually beneficial. It serves to protect the consumers from the scammers and providers who simply do not deliver what is being advertised - whether that is non-representative photos or inaccurate prices or outright lies - and it also serves as a forum for stellar providers to amplify their marketing free of charge!

It should be a "win-win" situation as long as people on both sides of the equation behave honestly & respectfully.
The purpose of this board is as a place for providers to advertise. We fund the entire site AFAIK. You can easily say "I had a great time with x" without saying "I had a great time with x, her pussy tasted amazing and she has the most beautiful full pussy lips, I pounded her for the entire hour and she took it like a champ" etc. Just... yeah. No. lol
 

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Another hijacked thread. The mod replied to the question this should be the end of this thread. All other opinions regarding reviews should be moved to a new thread.
 

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The purpose of this board is as a place for providers to advertise. We fund the entire site AFAIK. You can easily say "I had a great time with x" without saying "I had a great time with x, her pussy tasted amazing and she has the most beautiful full pussy lips, I pounded her for the entire hour and she took it like a champ" etc. Just... yeah. No. lol
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Fully funded by those same Escorts, some of who may prefer to have a DNR status for their own personal Reasons . Which IMHO should be respected !
Without these Paid-Advertisers, 99.9% of which are Women ! This Board wouldn't exist .
I wonder how many of the harsh critics of DNR, would be prepared to pay a Monthly fee, to participate on this Board ?
As always, you make some excellent points Mr Quim!

In answer to your question "how many would be prepared to pay a monthly fee"... well, I certainly would! But then I write reviews too, key point.

No to come-off as self-righteous or cynical, but that shift in business model to membership fees would not work: let's be honest, many PERB members simply glean information here and have either never posted reviews or anything more than the occasional cryptic & elliptical comments. They leach off the willingness of other members to take the risks while lowering their own exposure without contributing (the topic of another thread...) because the current business model allows that behaviour to slip through the cracks as long as enough of us either take the risks or simply get-off on writing our own amateurish Penthouse Forum letters LOL.

You've hit the nail on the head regarding the business model of PERB... it is advertiser driven! However, like all capitalist economic models, PERB is subject to the laws of supply & demand. SPs wouldn't bother spending their advertising $$$ here if there were no members (potential customers); if there were no reviews, there would be no members. It would be a free-for-all like Leolist.

So, as much as PERB needs SPs to pay to advertise, it also needs members to write reviews to function viably... ergo, DNR should be the exception, not the rule. The rest is just aesthetics.
 
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There's a real mix-up in the discussion between behaviour on PERB (can be controlled) vs general behaviour (cannot be controlled). These are two very different things.

I think everyone is in agreement that reviews and DNR are generally "policed" well enough by mods at PERB, such that there are consumers of the product. There isn't really any debate here - because the site owners/mods create the rules, and the users follow it. It's not a democracy.

Outside of PERB, there's nothing beyond the rule of law that could protect ladies from reviews, and at that point you're looking at things like defamation, pressing charges, etc. The Internet works, but it's rarely the best of places. IMO this is just an unfortunate fact that we have to accept. You could probably jump through hoops to have reviews removed from any particular site, but is it ever a lot of work.
 
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DNR serves a purpose and not to hide bad service. Many so called gentlemen on this site write reviews like they are writing for Penthouse forum, I know I'm old. Any way the point is, a large number of reviews are very graphic, giving the impression that you should expect the same experience as the writer. That could be not be further from the truth. You are compromising the ladies safety if they don't provide the exact experience the writer had. Shoved it down her throat, she took it like a champ, swallowed every drop, she provided a BBBJ are terms used far to much.

Allowing the SP to critique a review before posting is a way to prevent graphic details from being posted that could compromise her safety. there are just some things that should be left behind closed doors. A review should comment on LAS, not provide a detailed description of how virile and amazing the writer was. There is no reason for the graphic details, yet they still remain in many reviews. If you review a Service Provider, LAS with a few polite details, should be sufficient.

DNR is also a way for some ladies fearing for their safety, to stay under the radar from bad clients or stalkers. This is more prevalent in this industry than one cares to imagine.

If the service was bad or you were ripped off you should definitely post a comment and if they are DNR, talk to the MODS. DNR is not etched in stone, it is a courtesy.

Some of you above act like this is a boys club, looking out for their fellow hobbyists. You don't even know who they are, yet you feel you need to contribute to help out a "Brother" Really? lmao

You should look at it from their point of view and be grateful these wonderful beautiful ladies allow you to see them.

Don't give me the crap about how you are paying them and you expect such and such. You are not paying these ladies for anything else than their time. What happens during that time is decided by two consenting adults. So don't expect something simply because you read it on a review board. And don't berate them until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Some of you guys just don't get it. And local guy, you are a complete a....ole

Bob
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