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I've lived in NY, SF, Sacramento, Georgia, Maryland. Travelled all over.dessert said:
I just got back from San Diego. Had a great time sailing. There just seems to be a much greater consciousness of race in Canada. It's just not something I think about much when I'm in the States.
The Maritimes
originally posted by Rollerboy
If you're black or Asian and don't want any of the racism shit- don't go to the Maritimes, but I don't know how's it like today. This was way back when I was living there in the mid eighties. I've seen my black friend been spat on, right on the front of his face. My brother's black friend, well let's just say he's alive today, his head was hit with a baseball bat.
originally posted by Rollerboy
If you're black or Asian and don't want any of the racism shit- don't go to the Maritimes, but I don't know how's it like today. This was way back when I was living there in the mid eighties. I've seen my black friend been spat on, right on the front of his face. My brother's black friend, well let's just say he's alive today, his head was hit with a baseball bat.
Welcome to the new hyphenated apartheid. Multiculturalism does not eliminate racism, it can promote it.
Just another legacy of PE Trudeau.
Just another legacy of PE Trudeau.
Everything bad that ever happened in this country is the fault of Pierre Eliot Trudeau. Even stuff that happened before he was born. I'm positive he's the reason I flunked 11th grade. It certainly wasn't because I was a lazy, smart-mouthed wiseass who never applied himself. I'm sure as hell not taking responsiblity for that!badwolfcgy said:
really? i have a friend who is chinese, a cbc to be more to the point. she had just recently taken a trip chicago. she came back and i was excited to hear about her trip.rollerboy said:
she said that she had never been treated so badly in her life and had never been privy to such blatant racsim in all her life. she stayed at good hotels and didn't really stray off the beaten bath a tourist. that was her experience.
she's never talked about that kind of stuff happening here. as for the maritimes, i recently had a friend of japanese ancesorty go to halifax and he said that he had a great time. he said that everyone was nice and he was even thinking about moving there. however he did say that it sucked that halifax only had like one sushi place.
I think that it's one of those YEMV things, just like any other place, be it the States, Canada or where ever. One of my clients, who is of Indian descent, was telling me or her experience in Halifax and how she perceived people to treat her differently. She told of a how she would walk into a place and everyone would just stop what they were doing and look at her, as if she had two heads. She's Canadian born and dresses normal, so it's not like she was walking around in full Indian regalia.smackyo said:
Not trying to slag the maritimes, just making the point that it seems everyplace has it's share of good and bad experiences. It's nice to hear that your friend's experience was a postive one. It seems Bostonian's friend ran into the bad side.
Racism is definitely rooted in family and environment. Go to any one-horse hick town in Canada that is hours away from urban centres and you'll find many yokels who've never met anyone outside of their skin color, their only exposure to ethnic food is the local "Chinese and Western cuisine" grease pit, and have their stereotypes shaped by Hollywood and the media (all natives are criminals, all blacks are gangstas who turn white girls into hos, all Asians are stingy convenience store workers, etc).
wolverine said:
Sorry bud,thats not true by any means,I was batted arouond many places as I was growing up,,mostly small towns in Alta and BC,and there was nothing of the kind.
I didn't know what racism was till I moved to a large metropolis,and even then,I had to say WTF ,,and more so,,WHY
Exactly! Instead of creating a homogenized population where everyone has a strong national identity we have very polarized ethnocentric communities that does little to foster positive relations amongst each other. If I go shopping in Chinatown in Calgary, Edmonton or to a slightly lesser extent Vancouver its very noticeable that I'm viewed with suspicion and treated as an outsider. On the other hand its a marked difference if I go into a similar shop or restaurant in San Francisco's Chinatown. Always greeted warmly and if I have a question about a dish, herbs or jewelry even if there's a language barrier the staff are more then happy to help.badwolfcgy said:
Even among caucasians there's similar reactions. In my family I have the darkest complexion (must be that little bit of italian in me) and when we go to one of the very Italian grocery stores I ALWAYS get served before my brother who could be standing beside me and got to the counter first. We laugh about it since its no big deal but its another example of what's developed as a result of the government policy of multiculturalism.
badwolfcgy said:
Not everything bad that happened is PET's fault but he does have to shoulder the responsibility for a number of flawed policies that continue to haunt us today.JustAGuy said:
Multiculturalism as has been mentioned. Multilingualism was and continues to be a massive waste of resources. In predominantly anglo provinces like BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba or Ontario I fail to see how it benefits the local population to have federal government offices staffed with french and english speaking employees. That and its not even true national multilingualism with the bullshit that Quebec is allowed to pull off with their moronic sign laws. Financially he was a complete basket case....he spent money like a.....well like a drunken frenchman! Our national debt soared while he was in power as he funded all sorts of personal pet projects all to build his legacy. And of course the National Energy Policy which bent Alberta over and dry fucked us up the ass till we were bleeding from the ears.
Dude... you talk about your experience and other people's perception of your ethnicity (the italians who you think serve you first because you're darker) and you blame it on the government's policy on multiculturalism, and then you come out with a statement like this?gravitas said:
"well like a drunken frenchman!" WHAT the hell is that supposed to mean? you're the one judging people with your stereotypes, don't blame a Prime Minister from many years ago for people's (like yourself) limitations and ignorance.
nope. much smarter then that. personally i like him and what he tried to do for this country. look him up on google or something. he was considered our "cool" prime minister. kinda like kennedy only dare i say cooler?dessert said:Man that Pierre Eliot Trudeau guy is getting a beating here.
So was he the GWB of Canada?
as for government offices west of ontario only being in english. what do you think that the french people just stay in those provences? i've actually heard a lot more french being spoken on the street here in vancouver in the last few years.
What is this new fangled NDP? What ever happened to that gold ol
CCF?
*pulls out his old man pipe*
CCF?
*pulls out his old man pipe*
I think she means the BS about, "I'm white, you're black" etc. etc. (and substituting any other race for the "white" or "black")necko said:
You know... it's funny that racism is something that you don't only see in English Speaking and Germanic cultures. You can go to Mexico, Central or South America and you won't believe the tons of stereotypes and prejudices that a lot of hispanics make about Asians, Blacks and their own aborigins.biancataylor said:
Even in Mediterranian countries in Europe like Spain and Italy, they sure do like to make monkey sounds during soccer matches whenever an African or a black player gets the ball. I even wonder why there isn't a single player of African or Arab origin in their National Teams.
Racism is just about everywhere in the world. There's a lot of truth to what Rod Steel just said.
This all has to do with people and their influences while growing up... no one single ethnicity, thats right ethnicity not race (we are all the same race, the human race) has anything to do with it.
The playground incident has to do with influences these kids got from home wether it be their parents and their parenting skills or the parents lack of skills.
Now at this point you blame the parents but soon you blame the kids who are not kids any more... I do think it has way more to do with enviroment then genetics.
A few comments on Halifax need to be clarified... I lived there for 4 years. The initial preception is how nice everyone is and how drunk everyone is.... well think of this... many years ago the City of Halifax and the city of Dartmouth wanted to build a second bridge to connect the two cities and they wanted to do it on a piece of land where all the blacks live... it was called africville.. so the city of halifax transfered all of them to a piece of land centered on a street called "gottagen" (sp?) street... and build a set of simple apartments to house all the blacks... I had a hispanic girlfriend that lived in that area of town. I had to walk through there every day and was never treated bad... It was the whites that had the racism towards the blacks. Some cab companies would not even go into that part of town... it wasn't till the mid nineties the government started shipping black kids to white schools.... This is just my feeling living in Canada from one side to the other is that the further west you go the less of this problem you see.... older roots are located east.
In 82 I was 16 with a mohawk and an army trenchcoat on with a big skull on the back of it and I walked through Seattle from the Space Needle to Pike and 1st but I took a total wrong turn and went down an all black street... not a single bad thing happend to me... one girl asked me if I knew who Mr. T was cuz I looked like him.... and I was 16 n white all I had was a mohawk... no gold chains or nuthin... she didn't see my skin color.
I was in Cleveland twice for two weeks and was treated like gold.
Been to Seattle for lots of Seahawk Games, Boston, New York, and Cali all over cept Texas (my theory on white racism kept me away)
Never one incident of any person doing anything wrong to me.
By the way I am 100% White I have been thought to look Italian, Greek, Jewish.... but none of them are true..
I also think this problem is getting worse not better... we didn't have gang beatings as kids we had 1 on 1 fights... If you got punched and fell down the fight was over.... 10 more guys didn't jump on your head... I honestly think to rise in the cost of living causes one or both parents to work harder and spend less time educating their spoiled kids....
How many families play board games anymore? The game was a vehicle for your parents to spend time with you... family dinners? gone.
The less time people spend as family units the less they bond and feel for others... detachement..
Don't blame music or video games or anything other then possible lack of love and carring on the half of parents.
Now lets get back to talking bout naked girls.
The playground incident has to do with influences these kids got from home wether it be their parents and their parenting skills or the parents lack of skills.
Now at this point you blame the parents but soon you blame the kids who are not kids any more... I do think it has way more to do with enviroment then genetics.
A few comments on Halifax need to be clarified... I lived there for 4 years. The initial preception is how nice everyone is and how drunk everyone is.... well think of this... many years ago the City of Halifax and the city of Dartmouth wanted to build a second bridge to connect the two cities and they wanted to do it on a piece of land where all the blacks live... it was called africville.. so the city of halifax transfered all of them to a piece of land centered on a street called "gottagen" (sp?) street... and build a set of simple apartments to house all the blacks... I had a hispanic girlfriend that lived in that area of town. I had to walk through there every day and was never treated bad... It was the whites that had the racism towards the blacks. Some cab companies would not even go into that part of town... it wasn't till the mid nineties the government started shipping black kids to white schools.... This is just my feeling living in Canada from one side to the other is that the further west you go the less of this problem you see.... older roots are located east.
In 82 I was 16 with a mohawk and an army trenchcoat on with a big skull on the back of it and I walked through Seattle from the Space Needle to Pike and 1st but I took a total wrong turn and went down an all black street... not a single bad thing happend to me... one girl asked me if I knew who Mr. T was cuz I looked like him.... and I was 16 n white all I had was a mohawk... no gold chains or nuthin... she didn't see my skin color.
I was in Cleveland twice for two weeks and was treated like gold.
Been to Seattle for lots of Seahawk Games, Boston, New York, and Cali all over cept Texas (my theory on white racism kept me away)
Never one incident of any person doing anything wrong to me.
By the way I am 100% White I have been thought to look Italian, Greek, Jewish.... but none of them are true..
I also think this problem is getting worse not better... we didn't have gang beatings as kids we had 1 on 1 fights... If you got punched and fell down the fight was over.... 10 more guys didn't jump on your head... I honestly think to rise in the cost of living causes one or both parents to work harder and spend less time educating their spoiled kids....
How many families play board games anymore? The game was a vehicle for your parents to spend time with you... family dinners? gone.
The less time people spend as family units the less they bond and feel for others... detachement..
Don't blame music or video games or anything other then possible lack of love and carring on the half of parents.
Now lets get back to talking bout naked girls.
