Didn't beleive this shit

[necko]

I didn't beleive this shit would happen to me . At the park with my grandson this PM. Some kids near his age show up. He asks me if he can play with them, I say sure, He asks and one kid says" no" he asks why not ?the kid replys because" he has blue eyes and white skin" My grand kid starts to cry the other kid hauls of and hits him. I run toward the kid and ask why" because he was crying" I ask the kid where his mom is and send him to her. My exact words were "if u can properly play go to you mom"Mom leaves the park with her kids, 20 mins later the RCMP show up inquiring wether I had threaten her or the kids I tell my side the cops say just go home and not worry.What the Hell is this. I just don't understand, My mom brought me up not to be racist. The cops did say some ethnic"s feel this park is theres . What the hell!!

 

[Horse99]

How old were the kids? In this case, the best defense is a good offense, and if the police choose to hassle you further, say that YOU are going to file charges against her.....not sure what for, but make sure the cops have both sides of the story and don't take that shit from anyone....so much for the innocence of kids..

 

[necko]

I think what u are saying Dessert is very true. In this neighbour hood most of the whites are poor russian immigrants, the asians are affluent and the Africans are also very poor. In my building I'm one of the few white owners . They're other whites but usually renters,I have never hated anyone because of where they were born!

 

[OTBn]

oh please! You state nothing in terms of what the woman might have said to the RCMP... if in fact they even would have relayed it to you. Who knows what the little brat told his mother - perhaps she, mistakenly (without malice), interpreted that he was threatened.

Next thing we read of gentrification, ethnic nationalism, socio-economic perspective..... geezaz! good thing the little playground dustup didn't lead to an arms escalation or a cross-border incident - or sumthin!

 

[necko]

The kids were real tough 5 year olds.

 

[The Bostonian]

Originally posted by Dessert

that's really fucked up. Instead of trying to create, as best as possible, harmony and understanding of one another regardless and regards to ethnicity, I think Canada is picking up bad habits from the states such as ethnic nationalism.

Sorry Dessert,

I don't think so, how can you say Canada picked it up from the States? I had lived in the States and still go down to visit my family- I know from first hand. I've seen more ethnic nationalism in Canada more so than the States, I've lived in the Maritmes to Toronto, Montreal (the French are bad at it) and here. In the USA, you're proud to be an American first. For example take a look at the soccer games just a few months ago. Here's my question, I've always wondered if Team Canada were in the soccer games, would Italian Canadians be cheering for team Canada or would the Italian Canadians be cheering for Italy? I'm not saying that All Americans forget about their ethnicity, I'm sure some will cheer for their home country. But there is more ethnic pride here in Canada.

 

[gravitas]

Necko's experience is the unfortunate byproduct of Canadian, and very un-American, multiculturalism where islands of unique ethnicities develop with little external contact or influence.

 

[OTBn]

Ques-Que-Ce le "melting pot"

 

[smackyo]

which park was this?

 

[Bartdude]

As someone who deals with youth for a living....let's not get caught up....

We're talking about dumb little 5 year olds who either just don't know better, weren't taught better, or both. There's a good chance the kid didn't even know what the hell he was saying with the blue eyes comment. And we don't know what the kid said to Mom to make her overreact like that.

Agree with OTB, let's not turn a little playground incident into something that it's not. Definitely don't take any crap from the lady and stand up for yourself to the cop, but don't get too carried away, either.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

As someone who deals with youth for a living....let's not get caught up....

We're talking about dumb little 5 year olds who either just don't know better, weren't taught better, or both. There's a good chance the kid didn't even know what the hell he was saying with the blue eyes comment. And we don't know what the kid said to Mom to make her overreact like that.

Agree with OTB, let's not turn a little playground incident into something that it's not. Definitely don't take any crap from the lady and stand up for yourself to the cop, but don't get too carried away, either.

Ditto that. The little 5 yr olds really have no clue about what they were saying or why they said it. They likely told mama that you had verbally attacked them and she was quick to defend them.

 

[dipitydoo]

the problems are not the little kids... it's the kid's mother and the police officers.

Fear and ignorance is the worst combo.

 

[hitrack]

at that age it all comes from the parents. Obviously the parents are fukk-heads, and the kids will probably end being f-heads too.

 

[The Lizard King]

Necko judging by your post, you are white and have a grandson. If that's the case, at your age you should understand by now that only white people are racist.

Instead of trying to create, as best as possible, harmony and understanding of one another regardless and regards to ethnicity, I think Canada is picking up bad habits from the states such as ethnic nationalism.

Don't know about that. As much as I'm not a great fan of the American way, I do agree with the fact that they almost insist people consider themselves to be and conduct themselves as Americans first regardless of ethnicity. Canada's shortcoming, in my opinion, is that as a country we don't encourage that enough.

Sorry to burst your bubble but these things will never go away and in fact, will continue to only get worse. Bank on it. Especially as long as you have situations like the Asian community taking offence to official Canadian Government documents/forms, such as those for the head tax redress, being available only in Canada's two official languages and not Cantonese or Mandarin. Having people who've been in the country 50+ years complain and blame the Government for their inability to understand the English language in written form creates and promotes racism not suppress it. Sorry but that is a fact, whether any of us agree with it or not.

 

[necko]

If my kid or my grandkid had said no to playing with another kid because of his eye or skin colour, I'd tan his backside(And I don't mean abuse him)I'd didn't care about those kids skin colour and either did my grandkid, I've been in banks where I had to wait for service because an English speaking teller was not avaiable for a few minutes. That just seems wrong I could accept that in Quebec but not in BC.When I wrote my property managers licence a few asians brought in interpreters, but everyone was warned against cheating if I didn't understand a question there was no one for me to ask for help. To call me a racist, is really out of line.

 

[rollerboy]

Perhaps that is the current state of identity in America after 9-11. However, before that event, I felt that the climate was more towards one's ethnicity first. Of course, all this is very difficult to track. Regardless of that though, the parents are still ultimately responsible for their kid(s).

Anecdotally, I feel far more conscious of my own ethnicity when I'm in Canada, than I do in the States. People rarely point out to me the fact that I'm Asian ("Gee really? Thanks sir, I forgot.") at home, but it seems almost obligatory in some parts of Canada.

 

[MasterRPC]

Everyone's a little bit racist

unfortunatly this issue is not about the child although children a cruel and ignorant.
It is the parenting and history of the family and I dare say race. "Imigrant" parnets general teach there kids not to mix with other people because they don't know any better and are unwilling to assimulate their ideals with "canadian" lifestyles.
even more unfortunate it is more plorifant on the west coast than it is in lets say oh Toronto.
so have some hummor when dealing with "race" cause we are all guilty of it yet some handle it better

 

[demoman]

Hell ! I am fighting the urge to argue the merits of the many issues that relate to neko's account . So what is the news here ? That some adults are terrible parents ? That racism is a human failing ? That racists post their drivel on perb too ? woohoo ! Nothing will improve until someone acts . That someone somewhere has the guts to do what's right . No matter how unpopular , impractical , or embarrassing , it is to commit to right action . Then what is the right thing to do ???? You probably already know in your gut .

 

[fastmustang]

Sorry to burst your bubble but these things will never go away and in fact, will continue to only get worse. Bank on it. Especially as long as you have situations like the Asian community taking offence to official Canadian Government documents/forms, such as those for the head tax redress, being available only in Canada's two official languages and not Cantonese or Mandarin. Having people who've been in the country 50+ years complain and blame the Government for their inability to understand the English language in written form creates and promotes racism not suppress it. Sorry but that is a fact, whether any of us agree with it or not.

How is the incident in the park related to Canadian Chinese seeking redress for head tax claim? I watched the same news on TV. Every Canadian Chinese interviewed spoke English including that 90 year old guy. What that old guy was saying is he can't write English which is not uncommon for folks that age. There are white senior citizens that age who can speak, but not write. Not everyone is educated back then. The few remaining Chinese head tax survivors are 80 to over 90 years old now. It's frustrating for them after 20+ years of asking for redress to wait another day. In the end the old guy got someone to fill out the form in English for him.

Between 1885 to 1923, the Canadian government collected $23 million in head tax from Canadian Chinese. At the time, that's alot of money back. If you were taxed unfairly based solely on the color of your skin wouldn't you ask for your money back? Money back is not compensation, it's getting back what you paid and interest. $23 million plus 90 years at a very modest 1.5% interest compounded only once annually is $87 million in today's money. I think that's reasonable.

 

[demoman]

As for having to wait for a bank teller who could serve you in English , that sounds frustrating . Did you ask the Bank Manager to explain why with record profits year on year , and increased service fees , they have reduced their service provided so ?