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So how did 10-100 tonnes of thermite appear in the WTC dust?
How did the iron oxide spheres get there? Its a signature of THERMATE
And if there was neither please prove otherwise, and if you cant. Please dont post and ad hominem attack, just builds my case and weakens yours.
How did the iron oxide spheres get there? Its a signature of THERMATE
And if there was neither please prove otherwise, and if you cant. Please dont post and ad hominem attack, just builds my case and weakens yours.
It never existed. Here ya go Silky:
http://ronmossad.blogspot.com/2009/04/final-word-on-niels-harrit-nanothermite.html
Hope that helps!
Never said that...not even between the lines. I know you can't be Alex Jones, he's part of the fear monger machine. And I'm beyond what you think is high and mighty. I've already suggested what you should do.
Go to Co-op radio...see if you can have an hour per week to talk about this, and whatever else you feel you need to share. CFRO 102.7 I thinkit is. Station is at Pigeon Park on E. Hastings. They're always looking for people and they are a counter culture format. If you got a voice, plus or minus a personality, you might get time.
Or, college radio....CITR or SFU has a station or even BCIT. Try it....just spread the news that is already out there. George Noori and Coast to Coast radio...try that. Instead of the Lounge on PERB.
That is my suggestion for you. Try it... see where it gets you. And i'm not trying to humour you, or patronize you. That's too easy.
I'd rather do this. Either way I'm getting the word out. Alex Jones isnt a fearmonger unless you think cancer viruses in vaccines isnt scary. False flag terror not scary, rich inbred elites running the world isnt scary!? Satanic-homosexual-nazis running the world isnt scary!?
Yes theres iron and aluminum already in the towers. The iron oxide "spheres" are the FINGERPRINT of THERMATE.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
This is from April 2009, microscopic pics included.
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html
And heres a a building on fire, literal towering inferno. Yet WTC7 falls over due to a few small fires? I'm crazy?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC5-HJe1AJU
No Explosives. Proof. Period
April 21, 2009 8:46 AM
wardogs said...
Thank you Ron for both your patience and equanimity in dealing with this subject.
I am owner and trainer of a K9 training and deployment company in FL. We have been breeding, training and deploying our purpose bred explosive detection and SAR dogs for over 40 years as well as training K9's for the Military, LE and private industry.
In addition we are a FEMA Incident Response Team/First Responder K9 unit for FEMA Task Force II, Miami.
It was in the latter capacity that we were went to NY on 9/11 as part of the FL Task Force, arriving on scene about 3 1/2 hours after the second tower fell. We went with 4 of our dogs and handlers. Our main function was US&R, live person, (not cadaver search) but all of our dogs are cross trained in several disciplines, including EDD and Incendiary detection. In addition, of the over 300 K9 teams that came from all over the world, there were more than 70 other EDD K9's present on site. This is on top of the 6 full time EDD dogs employed full time at the WTC site, 3 of which I had trained personally. Besides the presence of the normal team that patrolled in shifts 24/7, there had been an ADDITIONAL team of 16 explosives interdiction K9's on duty for several weeks prior to the attack. They were there in response to bomb threats against the center (unrelated) and had only been removed 5 days prior to the attack. 6 of those dogs were also trained by our company.
No explosives or incendiary devices were planted anywhere in that complex. None. Our dogs and the other EDD K9's would have alerted after the fact as well. It's what they are trained for. We staged for the two weeks we were there at the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island. This is where much of the structural steel was brought. Despite rumors to the contrary, chain of custody was maintained and virtually all of the steel was cataloged and vital pieces were inspected. Not a single dog ever alerted to the presence of either explosives or incendiary residue.
Not one.
Two K9's were lost at 9/11 and dozens more injured. One was our lead dog and the other was one of our trainees, EDD dog "Sirius".
Sirius was K9 Officer #17 of the Port Authority Police Dept. He had just finished his rounds with his handler, David Lim on the morning of the attack. When the first plan hit David placed him in his Kennel in the basement of Tower II while he investigated what had happened. He was still there when the tower came down.
Our dog "Ali'i" was lost on Sept 13th while attempting to find a way through the tunnels under building 6 into the subway system under the complex. He was carrying a video pack and VA radio and was trapped when 6 suffered a partial collapse from fire. It wasn't until the following Dec that 6 was pulled down and the basement of Tower II was cleared to the point where the body of Sirius was found. They had a full memorial service for him. Ali'i was never found.
I'm not a scientist, but I am an expert on explosives/incendiaries, their use and detection bothbefore andafter detonation. I've testified as an expert witness more than 70 times at court proceedings on explosives detection, K9 training protocol and K9 scent differrention capability.
No explosives or incendiaries were present at the Trade Center on 9/11.
Thermite has never been used in demolition, ever. It has been used occasionally in clean up, but never as an instigator for controlled demolition.
The procces of controlled demolition itself is one that takes many weeks to prepare. the buildings undergo extensive preparations, and the demolitions are painstakenly placed in strategic positions. Remember also that 6 full time explosive detection dogs were on 24 hour patrol in shifts, 7 days a week. In addition, until just 5 days before, 16 additional dogs were working the Center in response to bomb threats from two weeks prior to that.
Walls are ripped apart and knocked down, beams are cut, holes are bored, wires are run to detonators. Here is a description of the work needed to take down a much smaller, 33 story building, the J.L. Hudson Department Store in Detroit. It was the largest (by square footage) building to be imploded at the time of 9/11. Keep in mind, this is just the amount of time needed to emplace the explosives, not to prepare the building in the first place:
Controlled demolitions Inc.
J.L. Hudson Department Store - Detroit, Michigan
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=6&reqItemId=20020304145120
"...In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation system. As the implosion required the detonation of a total of 2,728 lb. of explosives, CDI implemented 36 “primary delays" and an additional 216 “micro-delays" in the implosion initiation sequence in an attempt to keep detonation overpressure to a minimum..."
Before the placement started, more than a month of "prep" was involved that included removal of non load bearing walls, exposure of structural beams and stripping of all internal walls and supports.
I guess no one at the WTC noticed all that work going on.
wardogs
(Note: posted from same reference link from above previous poster) :
http://ronmossad.blogspot.com/2009/04/final-word-on-niels-harrit-nanothermite.html
April 21, 2009 8:46 AM
wardogs said...
Thank you Ron for both your patience and equanimity in dealing with this subject.
I am owner and trainer of a K9 training and deployment company in FL. We have been breeding, training and deploying our purpose bred explosive detection and SAR dogs for over 40 years as well as training K9's for the Military, LE and private industry.
In addition we are a FEMA Incident Response Team/First Responder K9 unit for FEMA Task Force II, Miami.
It was in the latter capacity that we were went to NY on 9/11 as part of the FL Task Force, arriving on scene about 3 1/2 hours after the second tower fell. We went with 4 of our dogs and handlers. Our main function was US&R, live person, (not cadaver search) but all of our dogs are cross trained in several disciplines, including EDD and Incendiary detection. In addition, of the over 300 K9 teams that came from all over the world, there were more than 70 other EDD K9's present on site. This is on top of the 6 full time EDD dogs employed full time at the WTC site, 3 of which I had trained personally. Besides the presence of the normal team that patrolled in shifts 24/7, there had been an ADDITIONAL team of 16 explosives interdiction K9's on duty for several weeks prior to the attack. They were there in response to bomb threats against the center (unrelated) and had only been removed 5 days prior to the attack. 6 of those dogs were also trained by our company.
No explosives or incendiary devices were planted anywhere in that complex. None. Our dogs and the other EDD K9's would have alerted after the fact as well. It's what they are trained for. We staged for the two weeks we were there at the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island. This is where much of the structural steel was brought. Despite rumors to the contrary, chain of custody was maintained and virtually all of the steel was cataloged and vital pieces were inspected. Not a single dog ever alerted to the presence of either explosives or incendiary residue.
Not one.
Two K9's were lost at 9/11 and dozens more injured. One was our lead dog and the other was one of our trainees, EDD dog "Sirius".
Sirius was K9 Officer #17 of the Port Authority Police Dept. He had just finished his rounds with his handler, David Lim on the morning of the attack. When the first plan hit David placed him in his Kennel in the basement of Tower II while he investigated what had happened. He was still there when the tower came down.
Our dog "Ali'i" was lost on Sept 13th while attempting to find a way through the tunnels under building 6 into the subway system under the complex. He was carrying a video pack and VA radio and was trapped when 6 suffered a partial collapse from fire. It wasn't until the following Dec that 6 was pulled down and the basement of Tower II was cleared to the point where the body of Sirius was found. They had a full memorial service for him. Ali'i was never found.
I'm not a scientist, but I am an expert on explosives/incendiaries, their use and detection bothbefore andafter detonation. I've testified as an expert witness more than 70 times at court proceedings on explosives detection, K9 training protocol and K9 scent differrention capability.
No explosives or incendiaries were present at the Trade Center on 9/11.
Thermite has never been used in demolition, ever. It has been used occasionally in clean up, but never as an instigator for controlled demolition.
The procces of controlled demolition itself is one that takes many weeks to prepare. the buildings undergo extensive preparations, and the demolitions are painstakenly placed in strategic positions. Remember also that 6 full time explosive detection dogs were on 24 hour patrol in shifts, 7 days a week. In addition, until just 5 days before, 16 additional dogs were working the Center in response to bomb threats from two weeks prior to that.
Walls are ripped apart and knocked down, beams are cut, holes are bored, wires are run to detonators. Here is a description of the work needed to take down a much smaller, 33 story building, the J.L. Hudson Department Store in Detroit. It was the largest (by square footage) building to be imploded at the time of 9/11. Keep in mind, this is just the amount of time needed to emplace the explosives, not to prepare the building in the first place:
Controlled demolitions Inc.
J.L. Hudson Department Store - Detroit, Michigan
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=6&reqItemId=20020304145120
"...In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation system. As the implosion required the detonation of a total of 2,728 lb. of explosives, CDI implemented 36 “primary delays" and an additional 216 “micro-delays" in the implosion initiation sequence in an attempt to keep detonation overpressure to a minimum..."
Before the placement started, more than a month of "prep" was involved that included removal of non load bearing walls, exposure of structural beams and stripping of all internal walls and supports.
I guess no one at the WTC noticed all that work going on.
wardogs
(Note: posted from same reference link from above previous poster) :
http://ronmossad.blogspot.com/2009/04/final-word-on-niels-harrit-nanothermite.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14825320/Thermite-Discovered-in-Dust-from-the-911-WTC
Just keep denying reality. If Alex Jones said the sun is going to come up tomorrow you'd call it a conspiracy.....
Just keep denying reality. If Alex Jones said the sun is going to come up tomorrow you'd call it a conspiracy.....
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And you cant figure out that a company called CONTROLLED DEMOLITION is hired to clean up the site? YOU ARE ASLEEP!
There's an official name for your style (and all of the 911 jockeys) of false argument. Styles, plural. I don't remember the formal names, but these are the descriptives:
(As with the above assertion (assanine logic) of guilt by company name).
- Guilt by association.
- Guilt by accusation.
- Guilt by implication.
- Argument by piling-on of hearsay - - -meaning: if you dump enough weight of accuasations and hearsay, it takes on "fact", if only by sheer weight.
All of your arguments reek of similar style of false-logic that you love to squak "persecution", as in that Latin word someone taught you to pronounce, (but not understand the application and accurate depth of its real meaning), "Ad Hominem"
(As with the above assertion (assanine logic) of guilt by company name).
- Guilt by association.
- Guilt by accusation.
- Guilt by implication.
- Argument by piling-on of hearsay - - -meaning: if you dump enough weight of accuasations and hearsay, it takes on "fact", if only by sheer weight.
All of your arguments reek of similar style of false-logic that you love to squak "persecution", as in that Latin word someone taught you to pronounce, (but not understand the application and accurate depth of its real meaning), "Ad Hominem"
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LB, if you got a ten week summer job with a speciallized demolitions company, such as with Controlled Demolitions Inc., such as doing the next type of demo of the above referenced J.L. Hudson Department Store - Detroit, Michigan,
(even if you were just sweeping floors to be onsite, spooling wire, or running a jackhammer into pilings);
you would have a heart failure or a mental meltdown, because only then might you have to face reality, and adjust your bubble world back to reality.
Because only then might YOU "wake up".
You would have no other choice but to concede the impossibility, as described above, of placing explosives in the Two Towers.
cheers.
(even if you were just sweeping floors to be onsite, spooling wire, or running a jackhammer into pilings);
you would have a heart failure or a mental meltdown, because only then might you have to face reality, and adjust your bubble world back to reality.
Because only then might YOU "wake up".
You would have no other choice but to concede the impossibility, as described above, of placing explosives in the Two Towers.
cheers.
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So i have to work with a demo company to even speak on the issue? Your not a demo expert either so you need to stfu.
But heres 600 architects that doubt the official story. BECAUSE ITS IMPOSSIBLE.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/more-than-600-architects-say-911-an-inside-job/
And heres reality. Why didnt this Beijing hotel collapse when it suffered far worse damage than WTC7......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC5-HJe1AJU
LB, you are talking out your ass (once again), and it has the corresponding credibility of only so much gas. If you knew what I do for a living, you would "stfu". You are an amateur.
I have posted a full-on expert testimony above, and you dodge it. Because it totally refutes the 'explosives "theory" '. Respond to the testimony directly, or get out of the courtroom.
Once again, this is why I told you you should go and witness firsthand (not second or third-hand hearsay), by being IN THE FIELD with HANDS-ON DEMO-EXPERTS - you need to get off the soap-box internet and go and experience real demolitions experts. Because it is apparent that someone has to physically put your nose into the facts -much like forcing an untrainable dog to smell his own shit on the carpet- before you will 'get it', (and "wake up', as you love to say). So now, go and fill out the job app. ASAP. And stfu, yourself.
- And, respond to the expert testimony posted above, directly, paragraph by paragraph.
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But your own personal truth is, as I said over a year ago on here, you have a neurosis, a NEED to believe what you want to believe. And you will go to any length to self-deceive yourself into keeping your personal box of 'reality" intact. It's a true psychological condition. It's like the vortex of a circular argument, self-perpetuating.
For every escape path which might call you to a new perspective of the actual real world, you have a defense, and everyone else is wrong. The world is out to get you, and you are the 'Gifted One' among the rare gifted ones (the 'non-sheep') who are "in the know". And it's your appointed task to rescue us, "the lost ones".
At least you are harmless. Even if utterly irritating.
I have posted a full-on expert testimony above, and you dodge it. Because it totally refutes the 'explosives "theory" '. Respond to the testimony directly, or get out of the courtroom.
Once again, this is why I told you you should go and witness firsthand (not second or third-hand hearsay), by being IN THE FIELD with HANDS-ON DEMO-EXPERTS - you need to get off the soap-box internet and go and experience real demolitions experts. Because it is apparent that someone has to physically put your nose into the facts -much like forcing an untrainable dog to smell his own shit on the carpet- before you will 'get it', (and "wake up', as you love to say). So now, go and fill out the job app. ASAP. And stfu, yourself.
- And, respond to the expert testimony posted above, directly, paragraph by paragraph.
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But your own personal truth is, as I said over a year ago on here, you have a neurosis, a NEED to believe what you want to believe. And you will go to any length to self-deceive yourself into keeping your personal box of 'reality" intact. It's a true psychological condition. It's like the vortex of a circular argument, self-perpetuating.
For every escape path which might call you to a new perspective of the actual real world, you have a defense, and everyone else is wrong. The world is out to get you, and you are the 'Gifted One' among the rare gifted ones (the 'non-sheep') who are "in the know". And it's your appointed task to rescue us, "the lost ones".
At least you are harmless. Even if utterly irritating.
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PERFECT!! Unfortunatly it will fall on deaf ears. Remember you must consider who you are addressing this to. Lighthead will go to his grave seeing conspiracy everywhere he looks, because he wants to.
Whats that sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I
Shhhhhhhhh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n593Hth8h9M
Rumble Rumble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVvZXR6VsI&feature=related
From the basement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZtqKiidlo
Again I own you sucka.
Still no building collapsing from fires yet either?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I
Shhhhhhhhh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n593Hth8h9M
Rumble Rumble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVvZXR6VsI&feature=related
From the basement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZtqKiidlo
Again I own you sucka.
Still no building collapsing from fires yet either?
Lets not forget the firemens radio transmissions....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXD3bAbZCow&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXD3bAbZCow&feature=related
And then the Japanes Congress. Are you telling me the Japanese are stupid? Dont know anything about architecture?
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...tStnyBJbYqAPIn5yIDw&q=japanese+diet+911&hl=en
And ofcourse FEMA arrived in NY on Sept10th. Good timing I guess.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eC3uns3pA&feature=related
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...tStnyBJbYqAPIn5yIDw&q=japanese+diet+911&hl=en
And ofcourse FEMA arrived in NY on Sept10th. Good timing I guess.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eC3uns3pA&feature=related
the only evidence i need to see was when bush got word of the 1st attack while reading a story book to the elementary school children, and then continued to read to the children!!!!!!!.............. there is no way, no freakin way, that any president, or school teacher for that matter, would be able to continue to read UNLESS it had been expected...
