Dick Cheney: Freudian slip

[maroonedsailor]

let me introduce reasonable doubt

Sounds like a plan. I think it would be interesting.

The one thing I do ask before the meeting, is for you to post just 1 piece of evidence. Not conjecture, not theory, just 1 solid piece of evidence. I wish you luck, because after 8 years, no one has found anything. What they have found are little blurbs here and there such as the Cheney stuff.

Regardless, though, I am still interested. I remember having a discussion with a person a few years ago downtown when the troofer were having a rally. All he did was repeat verbatim the nonsense that Richard Gage, David Ray Griffen, and the Loose Change boys had printed. I really don't think he knew what he was talking about.

Anyway, I am interested.

It is a difficult and painstaking job to wire any building for a controlled demolition which results in that building being dropped into its own footprint. For three buildings including two of the largest on the planet to do so by accident is indeed a miracle. If someone could explain to me so I could believe it after a lifetime in the construction industry, just how a building damaged on one side two thirds of the way up could implode that precisely
I would be most grateful. In my mind, the bigger the lie, the easier it is for reasonable people to believe. I watched it on tv that day and I listened to the firefighters as they worked and I have no doubt that there is much more to the story than we are being told. Fourty years later we found out the truth about Pearl Harbor too. I don't believe in some bunch of whackos enslaving the world population but I do believe in corruption at all levels for personal gain whether it's financial, religious, political or some combination of all three. The larger the decision the less individual lives matter to those making that decision.

 

[hunsperger]

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It is a difficult and painstaking job to wire any building for a controlled demolition which results in that building being dropped into its own footprint. For three buildings including two of the largest on the planet to do so by accident is indeed a miracle. If someone could explain to me so I could believe it after a lifetime in the construction industry, just how a building damaged on one side two thirds of the way up could implode that precisely

it has been explained to ad nauseam...

you just refuse to accept the explanation...

 

[Evolve]

I thought this thread was dead

*Calmly pulls out shotgun*

*Deep breath*

*BLAM*
Die you stupid thread!
*BLAM*
DIE!!!​

 

[Yman]

it has been explained to ad nauseam...

you just refuse to accept the explanation...

dito....amen

 

[HankQuinlan]

One of the firemen in the current season of "Rescue Me" becomes a "truther" and is seriously pissing off the others. I am waiting to see if they beat the crap out of him.

 

[wess]

It is a difficult and painstaking job to wire any building for a controlled demolition which results in that building being dropped into its own footprint. For three buildings including two of the largest on the planet to do so by accident is indeed a miracle. If someone could explain to me so I could believe it after a lifetime in the construction industry, just how a building damaged on one side two thirds of the way up could implode that precisely
I would be most grateful. In my mind, the bigger the lie, the easier it is for reasonable people to believe. I watched it on tv that day and I listened to the firefighters as they worked and I have no doubt that there is much more to the story than we are being told. Fourty years later we found out the truth about Pearl Harbor too. I don't believe in some bunch of whackos enslaving the world population but I do believe in corruption at all levels for personal gain whether it's financial, religious, political or some combination of all three. The larger the decision the less individual lives matter to those making that decision.

watch and learn, also, do you think the US has no enemies so they need to create fake ones ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXxynEDpwrA

 

[wess]

*Calmly pulls out shotgun*

*Deep breath*

*BLAM*
Die you stupid thread!
*BLAM*
DIE!!!​

what is so bad about this thread dill hole ?

 

[Evolve]

what is so bad about this thread dill hole ?

lol - "dill hole". You continue to be hilarious! Everything you say is funny!

This is probably the 4 billionth thread about 9/11 to roll through this forum. Nothing new is going to be said. No one's mind is going to be changed. WTC conversation is useless.

Even discussing the discussion, like this, has been done to death... and now you've got me discussing the discussion of the discussion. Hey, that's new! Let's talk about that! I say it's a waste of time! Counterpoint? (Use "dill hole" again, that was a good one!)

 

[hunsperger]

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lol - "dill hole". You continue to be hilarious! Everything you say is funny!

This is probably the 4 billionth thread about 9/11 to roll through this forum. Nothing new is going to be said. No one's mind is going to be changed. WTC conversation is useless.

Even discussing the discussion, like this, has been done to death... and now you've got me discussing the discussion of the discussion. Hey, that's new! Let's talk about that! I say it's a waste of time! Counterpoint? (Use "dill hole" again, that was a good one!)

Evolve makes a point...

you will never change anyone's mind...

and it has been discussed to death...

 

[zaig]

lol - "dill hole". You continue to be hilarious! Everything you say is funny!

This is probably the 4 billionth thread about 9/11 to roll through this forum. Nothing new is going to be said. No one's mind is going to be changed. WTC conversation is useless.

Even discussing the discussion, like this, has been done to death... and now you've got me discussing the discussion of the discussion. Hey, that's new! Let's talk about that! I say it's a waste of time! Counterpoint? (Use "dill hole" again, that was a good one!)

Bingo!

Isn't it amazing that it's always a troofer who starts a new thread. The only thought I have regarding this is that their lives are so empty that they have to find nonsense like this to believe in.

Doesn't everyone know that some guy in a cave just couldn't have masterminded 9/11. The buildings came down just like a controlled demolition. We heard firefighters saying they heard explosions. Building 7 wasn't even hit by an airplane. How can anyone hijack an airplane with boxcutters. Cheney wanted a war in Iraq. Steven Jones a professor at BYU found thermite dust, therefore it must have been a planned demolition.

After the troofers run out of steam, they will find another cause to jump on. I may not be correct, but my observation is that troofers aka, conspiracy theorists actually live for this garbage. It gives them a raison d'etre for their life. It doesn't matter that still after 8 years, not a single shread of evidence has been found. Not one. Personally, I actually feel sorry for them. They exhibit neurotic paranoia when it comes to these types of situations. And, when they get into a debate, they usually end up calling people names or call them sheep. They say you drank the kool aid. Nevermind that all the websites that support their position are full of half truths, or worse out and out lies. It's mind boggeling. Just remember Silky and lighthead. Whenever challenged, all they did was resort to insults, and telling people to FO and die.
Very mature.
As it was stated above, hopefully we have seen the last of these silly threads. If they really want to discuss this topic, there are no shortages of other websites that discuss this ad nauseam.

Have a nice day.

 

[Shakerod]

Bingo!

Isn't it amazing that it's always a troofer who starts a new thread. The only thought I have regarding this is that their lives are so empty that they have to find nonsense like this to believe in.

Doesn't everyone know that some guy in a cave just couldn't have masterminded 9/11. The buildings came down just like a controlled demolition. We heard firefighters saying they heard explosions. Building 7 wasn't even hit by an airplane. How can anyone hijack an airplane with boxcutters. Cheney wanted a war in Iraq. Steven Jones a professor at BYU found thermite dust, therefore it must have been a planned demolition.

After the troofers run out of steam, they will find another cause to jump on. I may not be correct, but my observation is that troofers aka, conspiracy theorists actually live for this garbage. It gives them a raison d'etre for their life. It doesn't matter that still after 8 years, not a single shread of evidence has been found. Not one. Personally, I actually feel sorry for them. They exhibit neurotic paranoia when it comes to these types of situations. And, when they get into a debate, they usually end up calling people names or call them sheep. They say you drank the kool aid. Nevermind that all the websites that support their position are full of half truths, or worse out and out lies. It's mind boggeling. Just remember Silky and lighthead. Whenever challenged, all they did was resort to insults, and telling people to FO and die.
Very mature.
As it was stated above, hopefully we have seen the last of these silly threads. If they really want to discuss this topic, there are no shortages of other websites that discuss this ad nauseam.

Have a nice day.

Since you choose to ignore three sources of solid evidence about what happened on 9/11. Here is evidence that would be impossible to ignore in court.

"Like many buildings built in the 1970's, the Twin towers were constructed with vast quantitities of cancer causing asbestos. The cost of removing the Twin Tower asbestos? A year's worth of revenues at a minimum, possibly as much as the value of the buildings themselves. The cost to disassemble the Twin Towers floor by floor would have run into the double digit billions. In addition, the Port Authority was prohibited from demolishing the towers because the resulting asbestos dust would cover the entire city, which it did when they collapsed, resulting in many cancers with a confirmed link to the WTC dust.

Despite its questionable status, in January of 2001, Larry Silverstein made a 3.2 billion bid for the World Trade Center. On July 24, 2001, the Port Authority accepted the offer. Silverstein then took out an insurance policy that, understandably, covered terrorist attacks, which happened seven weeks later. To date, Silverstein has been awarded almost $5 billion from nine different insurance companies. What was an asbestos nightmare turned into a $1.8 billion profit within seven weeks." I don't know about you, but this would be called' MOTIVE' where I come from.

This is just one more piece of that anomalous day that there is no explanation for.

 

[blazejowski]

Since you choose to ignore three sources of solid evidence about what happened on 9/11. Here is evidence that would be hard to ignore in court.

"Like many buildings built in the 1970's, the Twin towers were constructed with vast quantitities of cancer causing asbestos. The cost of removing the Twin Tower asbestos? A year's worth of revenues at a minimum, possibly as much as the value of the buildings themselves. The cost to disassemble the Twin Towers floor by floor would have run into the double digit billions. In addition the Port Authority was prohibited from demolishing the towers because the resulting asbestos dust would cover the entire city, which it did when they collapsed, resulting in many cancers with a confirmed link to th WTC dust.

Despite its questionable status, in January of 2001, Larry Silverstein made a 3.2 billion bid for the World Trade Center. On July 24, 2001, the Port Authority accepted the offer. Silverstein then took out an insurance policy that, understandably, covered terrorist attacks, which happened seven weeks later. To date, Silverstein has been awarded almost $5 billion from nine different insurance companies. What was an asbestos nightmare turned into a $1.8 billion profit within seven weeks." I don't know about you, but this would be called' MOTIVE' where I come from.

This is just one more piece of that anomalous day that there is no explanation for.

Once again, you site no sources, thus no proof...

 

[Shakerod]

Once again, you site no sources, thus no proof...

What do you mean by sources? It was probably in just about every paper that chose to print it. It may not have been splashed all over the front page like it deserved to be, but it was there. Are you saying it didn't happen?

 

[zaig]

Since you choose to ignore three sources of solid evidence about what happened on 9/11. Here is evidence that would be impossible to ignore in court.

"Like many buildings built in the 1970's, the Twin towers were constructed with vast quantitities of cancer causing asbestos. The cost of removing the Twin Tower asbestos? A year's worth of revenues at a minimum, possibly as much as the value of the buildings themselves. The cost to disassemble the Twin Towers floor by floor would have run into the double digit billions. In addition, the Port Authority was prohibited from demolishing the towers because the resulting asbestos dust would cover the entire city, which it did when they collapsed, resulting in many cancers with a confirmed link to the WTC dust.

Despite its questionable status, in January of 2001, Larry Silverstein made a 3.2 billion bid for the World Trade Center. On July 24, 2001, the Port Authority accepted the offer. Silverstein then took out an insurance policy that, understandably, covered terrorist attacks, which happened seven weeks later. To date, Silverstein has been awarded almost $5 billion from nine different insurance companies. What was an asbestos nightmare turned into a $1.8 billion profit within seven weeks." I don't know about you, but this would be called' MOTIVE' where I come from.

This is just one more piece of that anomalous day that there is no explanation for.

If you have an open mind, something most troofers don't, go to this website. It explains the whole asbestos/insurance/etc discussion.

Of course, you can still choose to accept that a Jewish New Yorker, had a pipeline to 19 Arab Moslem Extremists, for them to put the plan into action.

You guys kill me. What you stated is certainly correct. Silverstein bought/leased the WTC Complex and insured it. Duh. Tell me one financial institution that would allow you to borrow money for a commercial or for that matter a personal real estate investment without insurance. Not going to happen.

I won't even go into the fact that it would be impossible, yes impossible to keep a conspiracy of this magnatude quiet.

Actually, aside from the obvious nonsense the troofers try to defend with souces like David Ray Griffen, Richard Gage, Webster Tarplay, Steven Jones, the Loose Change trio, Alex Jones and a few other lost souls, there has not been 1, I repeat, not 1 peer reviewed paper published in a recognized journal to contradict the 911 Commission Report. Not 1 shred of evidence has been found. Not one person coming forward to say they were a small piece of the big puzzle.

Oh and your last statement as proof to it being enough for a motive. Well if motive alone is enough to convict a person, the jails would be even more crowded.


http://www.911myths.com/html/losing_money_at_the_wtc_.html

 

[zaig]

I also forgot to add that it always seems to be the troofers that bring this topic of 911 back up. And they do this without anything new to say.

Notice how this thread was way back on page 4 or 5, and a troofer brought it back to the first page as if they need to have people reading their ridiculous theories. They then debate the issue, realize that they have no facts or evidence, get their feelings hurt, end up calling everyone sheep, or just plain insulting them, lighthead being the perfect example, then disappear for a while then re-emerge either with a new thread or drumming up an old one.

The 911 movement is essentially dead. The leaders are fighting amongst themselves. They have nothing new to add, all they have are annomalies, and the fact the the Bush administration used the events for their own agenda. Politically speaking, from the Bush administration point of view, it was just too good to pass up.

Was that administration without a moral compass? 100%. Was he possibly the worst President in history? 100%. Was it quilty of this heinous crime. 0%

Now I know you are going to find some other useless piece of information, and try to make it sing your song, but it just won't work.

Find another cause worth fighting for, cause this one is lost.

 

[Shakerod]

I also forgot to add that it always seems to be the troofers that bring this topic of 911 back up. And they do this without anything new to say.

Notice how this thread was way back on page 4 or 5, and a troofer brought it back to the first page as if they need to have people reading their ridiculous theories. They then debate the issue, realize that they have no facts or evidence, get their feelings hurt, end up calling everyone sheep, or just plain insulting them, lighthead being the perfect example, then disappear for a while then re-emerge either with a new thread or drumming up an old one.

The 911 movement is essentially dead. The leaders are fighting amongst themselves. They have nothing new to add, all they have are annomalies, and the fact the the Bush administration used the events for their own agenda. Politically speaking, from the Bush administration point of view, it was just too good to pass up.

Was that administration without a moral compass? 100%. Was he possibly the worst President in history? 100%. Was it quilty of this heinous crime. 0%

Now I know you are going to find some other useless piece of information, and try to make it sing your song, but it just won't work.

Find another cause worth fighting for, cause this one is lost.

This is for all you people out there who actually have an open mind. www.wanttoknow.info/9-11 cover-up

 

[myselftheother]

This is for all you people out there who actually have an open mind. www.wanttoknow.info/9-11 cover-up

This is a total waste of energy but what the Hell...

The thing is that the people who instigated this horror will never be brought to justice, will never have the stark light of day exposing the truth without a doubt, exposing for all to see who, what, how, etc. There isn't going to be a trial. There won't be any at all going to jail for life, or death sentences meted out to those at the top of this conspiracy that now has led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands, and trillions in cost.

Open mind or not, all the websites and forums and conferences will lead to naught....sorry but that is also the truth.

 

[wess]

This is for all you people out there who actually have an open mind. www.wanttoknow.info/9-11 cover-up

You mean people that are gullible to propaganda ? Go put on your tinfoil condom

 

[namssa]

Since you choose to ignore three sources of solid evidence about what happened on 9/11. Here is evidence that would be impossible to ignore in court.
"Like many buildings built in the 1970's, the Twin towers were constructed with vast quantitities of cancer causing asbestos. The cost of removing the Twin Tower asbestos? A year's worth of revenues at a minimum, possibly as much as the value of the buildings themselves. The cost to disassemble the Twin Towers floor by floor would have run into the double digit billions. In addition, the Port Authority was prohibited from demolishing the towers because the resulting asbestos dust would cover the entire city, which it did when they collapsed, resulting in many cancers with a confirmed link to the WTC dust.

Despite its questionable status, in January of 2001, Larry Silverstein made a 3.2 billion bid for the World Trade Center. On July 24, 2001, the Port Authority accepted the offer. Silverstein then took out an insurance policy that, understandably, covered terrorist attacks, which happened seven weeks later. To date, Silverstein has been awarded almost $5 billion from nine different insurance companies. What was an asbestos nightmare turned into a $1.8 billion profit within seven weeks." I don't know about you, but this would be called' MOTIVE' where I come from.

This is just one more piece of that anomalous day that there is no explanation for.

There is not one shred of "evidence" in the above statements.

Certainly nothing that would hold up in a court of law.
Keep wearing your tinfoil hat buddy, gotta protect that wee small brain you got working for ya.

 

[HankQuinlan]

Since you choose to ignore three sources of solid evidence about what happened on 9/11. Here is evidence that would be impossible to ignore in court.

"Like many buildings built in the 1970's, the Twin towers were constructed with vast quantitities of cancer causing asbestos. The cost of removing the Twin Tower asbestos? A year's worth of revenues at a minimum, possibly as much as the value of the buildings themselves. The cost to disassemble the Twin Towers floor by floor would have run into the double digit billions. In addition, the Port Authority was prohibited from demolishing the towers because the resulting asbestos dust would cover the entire city, which it did when they collapsed, resulting in many cancers with a confirmed link to the WTC dust.

Despite its questionable status, in January of 2001, Larry Silverstein made a 3.2 billion bid for the World Trade Center. On July 24, 2001, the Port Authority accepted the offer. Silverstein then took out an insurance policy that, understandably, covered terrorist attacks, which happened seven weeks later. To date, Silverstein has been awarded almost $5 billion from nine different insurance companies. What was an asbestos nightmare turned into a $1.8 billion profit within seven weeks." I don't know about you, but this would be called' MOTIVE' where I come from.

This is just one more piece of that anomalous day that there is no explanation for.

I LOVE this one! I thought I had heard it all.... It wasn't a shadowy cabal of royals and financiers as part of their plot to take over the world, or the neocons who used Saudis to have an excuse to blame it on Iraq....it was an insurance scam! Priceless!