Democrats senate leader caught in the act

[luckydog71]

The Democrats senate leader, Harry Reid, went through a green light yesterday in Raleigh NC and there is undisputable proof he committed this crime. A tourist who just happened to be taking pictures when Reid committed this crime clear shows the light was green as he entered the intersection. The picture also shows that Nancy Pelosi was in the passenger seat and is therefore an accomplice to this crime.

Had someone been in the crosswalk at the time he no doubt would have been killed. This is further evidence that Reid has complete disregard for human life. The fact that he was in a Red State made it highly probable that the person he would have killed, had somebody been there, would have been a member of the GOP.

The DNC has already started up their spin machine and issued talking points for damage control. They are all saying the same thing:

1. There was nobody killed. Nobody was even in the crosswalk.
It was Reid’s intent that matters. The fact that no one was in harms way is just a cover up.

2. It is only a crime if the light was red. It was not it was green.
The DNC is trying to divert the attention of the public and get Reid off on a technicality. We ask the DNC, if someone was in the crosswalk they would be dead regardless of the color of the light when Reid and Pelosi went through that intersection.

At very least Reid needs to have all his privileges in the senate suspended and his driver’s license revoked until this whole matter is thoroughly investigated by the House ethics committee. Because of the seriousness of the crime, it is likely this investigation will take a few months.

 

[HankQuinlan]

Not sure I understand the satire??? Somehow equating Karl Rove's actions to something utterly harmless? If so, you are still ignoring the question: If Bush said that he would fire anyone in his administration who leaked the name of the CIA agent, and then dodges all accountability for this promise, is that okay?

Or is there some kind of new word "definition" involved, along the lines of "I didn't have sex with that woman."?

 

[luckydog71]

Not sure I understand the satire??? Somehow equating Karl Rove's actions to something utterly harmless? If so, you are still ignoring the question: If Bush said that he would fire anyone in his administration who leaked the name of the CIA agent, and then dodges all accountability for this promise, is that okay?

Or is there some kind of new word "definition" involved, along the lines of "I didn't have sex with that woman."?

you got it

 

[BushPilot]

this post is not only stupid, it has no relevence to the Karl Rove-Valerie Plame affair. I assume that you're trying to make a point here, LuckyDog. I'm just not sure what it is. You're trying to equate a fictional lawful act with a real criminal act. Where's the logic?

 

[luckydog71]

this post is not only stupid, it has no relevence to the Karl Rove-Valerie Plame affair. I assume that you're trying to make a point here, LuckyDog. I'm just not sure what it is. You're trying to equate a fictional lawful act with a real criminal act. Where's the logic?

BP - you did get the point.

Neither act is a real criminal act. If there was and Karl committed it he will be charged.

The DEMS can get their knickers in a knot and they can do all of the wishful thinking they like.

THERE ARE NO CRIMMINAL CHARGES AGAINST ROVE.

If there are charges laid in the future, the GOP will act quickly. Karl will go if there is sufficient evidence to charge him.

 

[Herb_The_Perb]

All this thread does is suggest that LD is dittman, but with better grammar and spelling. And functioning shift keys.

 

[russel4339]

Not sure I understand the satire??? Somehow equating Karl Rove's actions to something utterly harmless? If so, you are still ignoring the question: If Bush said that he would fire anyone in his administration who leaked the name of the CIA agent, and then dodges all accountability for this promise, is that okay?

Actually, Bush never said he would fire the person. He said "the situation will be dealt with". This can mean many things depending upon the what facts are overturned.

 

[wilde]

What crime!?!?!?

The Democrats senate leader, Harry Reid, went through a green light yesterday in Raleigh NC and there is undisputable proof he committed this crime. A tourist who just happened to be taking pictures when Reid committed this crime clear shows the light was green as he entered the intersection. The picture also shows that Nancy Pelosi was in the passenger seat and is therefore an accomplice to this crime.

 

[dittman]

LMAO@LD thats funny, i should post this under the karl rove thread but it is so much fun to rub your nose in it because you all just dont get it. the running of the red light would be a much more serious crime. it seems that you cant out someone that has already been outed. Thats right she was outed before and youre going to love this, she was outed by the cia. LOL god what a bunch of morons, no wonder our intelligence was so bad. the keystone cops strike again.

 

[HankQuinlan]

Actually, Bush never said he would fire the person. He said "the situation will be dealt with". This can mean many things depending upon the what facts are overturned.

This is undisputably documented. On June 10, 2004, Bush answered "Yes'' when asked whether he would fire anyone who leaked Plame's name. He has welshed on this, and now changed it to if there is a "crime" involved.


It's all a sideshow anyway --- and Lucky Dog is correct that many of us would be happy for any excuse to get rid of any of these guys that we despise.

I just hope that I will have some way to contact him in five or ten years when there is universally accepted historical view of this period, where I can smugly say "I told you so." What I expect will occur:

Current supporters will be saying "but we believed them when they said invading Iraq was in our national interests". There will be an Islamic-oriented government in power in Iraq, and there will still be internal wars and conflicts, because the U.S. will eventually find an excuse to cut and run when it becomes apparent they will not achieve their objectives, and because domestic pressures will force them to bring their troops home. The lives of Iraqis will be be even more miserable than they were while Saddam was in power, and it will be apparent that the massive loss of life was in vain.

Veterans of the war will be scorned by the masses (wrongly -- they were just following orders, after all), and those responsible for, and who got richer from the debacle, will still be rich and unpunished (even though their reputations will be unredeemably tarnished). Whoever is in charge in the US will still be faced with the massive bills from the war and occupation, and there will still be threats of terrorism and terrorist acts committed throughout the world. The "War on Terror" will be as effective as "The War on Drugs", and the occupation of Iraq will be historically equated with the war against Vietnam as useless human folly. Oil companies will still be rich.

I hope I am wrong --- I hope this all somehow brings about peace in the middle east and citizens there all see the error of their thought, elect democratic governnments and love the West, and that there will be a movement to add GWB's mug to Mount Rushmore. But I doubt it.

 

[luckydog71]

LMAO@LD thats funny, i should post this under the karl rove thread but it is so much fun to rub your nose in it because you all just dont get it. the running of the red light would be a much more serious crime. it seems that you cant out someone that has already been outed. Thats right she was outed before and youre going to love this, she was outed by the cia. LOL god what a bunch of morons, no wonder our intelligence was so bad. the keystone cops strike again.

Oh, they get it alright, dittman. But they choose not to.

 

[dirtydan]

Not sure I understand the satire??? Somehow equating Karl Rove's actions to something utterly harmless? If so, you are still ignoring the question: If Bush said that he would fire anyone in his administration who leaked the name of the CIA agent, and then dodges all accountability for this promise, is that okay?

Or is there some kind of new word "definition" involved, along the lines of "I didn't have sex with that woman."?

To the GOP crowd it's all fine and dandy to lie your way into a war and to illegally reveal the indentity of a CIA operative. BUT have a Democrat President tell a small lie about a blow job, oh then all hell breaks loose.

GOP = Grand Old Party = Hypocrisy.

 

[wildonion]

good thing they aren't prez & v-p, it'd be an impeachable offense for sure (if you're a dem); it'd really be good if reid has a purple heart, then the republicans could castigate him for real for being a coward

if you're a republican, you can steal election, lie to go to war & kill tens of thousands of people, tear up the geneva convention, and you're a hero

 

[qwerty]

I'm surprised Harry still has his job

 

[BeerHere]

what an ASS!!!!
exposing a spy to the public is traitorous, as is going to war & killing thousands of people on a whim

Impeachable, more than getting a blow job.

Go back to texas

BP - you did get the point.

Neither act is a real criminal act. If there was and Karl committed it he will be charged.

The DEMS can get their knickers in a knot and they can do all of the wishful thinking they like.

THERE ARE NO CRIMMINAL CHARGES AGAINST ROVE.

If there are charges laid in the future, the GOP will act quickly. Karl will go if there is sufficient evidence to charge him.

 

[Webster]

Oh, they get it alright, dittman. But they choose not to.

I get it. If you do something I don't like, I get to destroy your wife's career.

 

[luckydog71]

what an ASS!!!!
exposing a spy to the public is traitorous, ...

Beerhere - you are right. It is a despicable crime...but your hatred for Bush is rushing you to judgment:

- Rove did not expose her. It was a reporter that told Rove she works for the CIA.
- She was not a spy. She had a desk job at the CIA and drove to work every day. Hardly undercover.
- Wilson said in his book she had not been overseas for years. Hardly a spy
- Wilson is the one who lied and said Bush sent him to Niger....False it was his CIA wife who recommend him.

and one last point I saw a clip yesterday on the news it was Bush in Oct 03, he said if anyone in his administration has committed an illegal act, they will be fired. I believe Bush.

Beerhere - I don't expect to change your mind and all of a sudden you will love Bush and his administration. But this whole made up charge by the liberals is starting to unravel. As soon as they are put in a position to back up any of their claims, they can not.

They liberals are starting to look like those GOP zelots who impeached Clinton for a BJ.

 

[luckydog71]

I get it. If you do something I don't like, I get to destroy your wife's career.

can you provide any proof of your wild claims:

- Please show me that Rove did anything other than correct false information spread by Wilson. The victum of his own lies.

- Please show me how her career is destroyed. Was she fired? Was she demoted? was she move to a lower paying job?

So Webster it is time to put up. Each time the flaming liberals make these wild claims they have nothing to back it up. Just the fact that they said it should make it so.

Please point me to a credible news article that says she was fired because a reporter told Rove that Wilson's wife work for the CIA.

 

[Webster]

- Rove did not expose her. It was a reporter that told Rove she works for the CIA.

Rove exposed her. He's not allowed to comment if a reporter runs that by him. Really. Honest to god.

- She was not a spy. She had a desk job at the CIA and drove to work every day. Hardly undercover.

'"To most readers this information might have seemed harmless, but on July 22 Newsday's Knut Royce and Timothy M. Phelps reported that, according to their intelligence sources, Plame was an "undercover officer." In fact, she had noc status, that is, nonofficial cover. nocs are not ordinarily deskbound intelligence analysts who work inside C.I.A. headquarters. Mostly they operate abroad, frequently using fake job descriptions and sometimes fake names. According to a former senior C.I.A. officer, to blend in they often have to work two jobs: that of their "cover" and that involving their C.I.A. duties, which usually consists of handling foreign agents in the field, but can also involve recruiting them. nocs have no diplomatic protection and so are vulnerable to hostile regimes that can imprison or execute them without official repercussions. A noc's only real defense is his or her cover, which can take years to build. Because of this vulnerability, a noc's identity is considered within the C.I.A. to be, as former C.I.A. analyst Kenneth Pollack has put it, "the holiest of holies."'

- Wilson said in his book she had not been overseas for years. Hardly a spy

The CIA thought she was. That's why there's a special prosecutor involved.

- Wilson is the one who lied and said Bush sent him to Niger....False it was his CIA wife who recommend him.

God, you can't even get the Republican talking points right. You're supposed to say "he said Dick Cheney sent him!" Which he didn't say. He said he was sent by the CIA after a request from the VP's office to look into the Niger thing. Which is true, and he was eminently qualified for the job. When Dick Cheney was the defense secretary, who was in Baghdad as a go between between Cheney and the Iraqi government? Joe Wilson. Wilson's private company was involved in business in Niger, so he knew his way around, and prior to that he'd done state department work in Niger. Please suggest a better candidate for the job.

Still, this doesn't have ANYTHING to do with outing a CIA officer, the front firm she worked for, and therefore everyone else that front firm ever employed or dealt with.

They liberals are starting to look like those GOP zelots who impeached Clinton for a BJ.

As above, not only did Rove blow her cover, but the cover of a CIA front firm and whoever else worked for it. If you think that equates to a blow-job, not much I can say.

 

[Webster]

- Please show me that Rove did anything other than correct false information spread by Wilson. The victum of his own lies.

Tell me what you think the false information was, and I'll blow holes in anything you assert. It will be ridiculously easy, and unlike you I will post references to everything I say.

- Please show me how her career is destroyed. Was she fired? Was she demoted? was she move to a lower paying job?

So Webster it is time to put up. Each time the flaming liberals make these wild claims they have nothing to back it up. Just the fact that they said it should make it so.

Please point me to a credible news article that says she was fired because a reporter told Rove that Wilson's wife work for the CIA.

She wasn't fired...but now her job can never be what it was.

If you spent your life doing one thing that you like very much, having that taken away and simply working for the same company is a pretty fucking big rip-off. Especially when it involved lying to friends and family for decades.