Daylight Savings

[Cock Throppled]

I like Daylight Savings. Gives a nice, definitive shot to announce the season changes.

I can't believe the complaining about it, and how dangerous it supposedly is. Global was giving suggestions on how to cope with this massive disruption to life as we know it.

How dysfunctional do you have to be to let a one hour time difference Sunday morning, affect you the rest of the week?

Have these people never had children, noisy neighbours, demanding pets, a mate's different work schedule, an early flight, or insomnia, or a late night party? Been up sick, delayed getting home, an early wake-up call, a fire or accident nearby during the night, a weak bladder, diahrrea, bad headache or somethig else that disrupts their sleep?

C'mon - it's one fricking hour. Other than having to change a few clocks, I've never physically even noticed the change.

 

[summerbreeze]

I like Daylight Savings. Gives a nice, definitive shot to announce the season changes.

I can't believe the complaining about it, and how dangerous it supposedly is. Global was giving suggestions on how to cope with this massive disruption to life as we know it.

How dysfunctional do you have to be to let a one hour time difference Sunday morning, affect you the rest of the week?

Have these people never had children, noisy neighbours, demanding pets, a mate's different work schedule, an early flight, or insomnia, or a late night party? Been up sick, delayed getting home, an early wake-up call, a fire or accident nearby during the night, a weak bladder, diahrrea, bad headache or somethig else that disrupts their sleep?

C'mon - it's one fricking hour. Other than having to change a few clocks, I've never physically even noticed the change.

sometimes people forget how many people work on a rotating shift system

dayshift for 2 weeks, afternoon shift to follow or night shift for 2 weeks etc

during war, combatants rarely get regular sleep cycles....

not saying its the optimal situation but plenty of people get on with their lives and adapt to these situations

 

[87112]

It feels like party time with the extra hour of light. Signals the death of winter for me which I hate with a passion.

 

[jgg]

I like Daylight Savings. Gives a nice, definitive shot to announce the season changes.

I can't believe the complaining about it, and how dangerous it supposedly is. Global was giving suggestions on how to cope with this massive disruption to life as we know it.

How dysfunctional do you have to be to let a one hour time difference Sunday morning, affect you the rest of the week?

Have these people never had children, noisy neighbours, demanding pets, a mate's different work schedule, an early flight, or insomnia, or a late night party? Been up sick, delayed getting home, an early wake-up call, a fire or accident nearby during the night, a weak bladder, diahrrea, bad headache or somethig else that disrupts their sleep?

C'mon - it's one fricking hour. Other than having to change a few clocks, I've never physically even noticed the change.

I agree. Leave it the way it is. I enjoy the extra daylight in the summer. The media makes a big deal of it because it occurs on slow news Sunday.

 

[Oldfart]

I fucking hate Daylight Saving Time.
May it die quickly.

 

[tadolder]

i feel the time change. I am usually a bit tired for a day or two, but the benefit of an extra hr of daylight during the summer is well worth it.

 

[felixthecat]

get your Hoe ready!

I see the semi-annual changes as a large-scale excercise in futulity. It's amazing how the whole countries can follow a policy that is not based on a scientific analysis, but on some high-level ideas that got popular vote.

From Wikipedia,
"The New Zealand entomologist George Hudson first proposed modern DST. Hudson's shift-work job gave him leisure time to collect insects and led him to value after-hours daylight."

That's about the level of reasoning behind it. No consideration of how it's affected by latitude, primary industries of your country, psychological impacts of change, etc. Canada had to follow the US, I get it, otherwise it could have been better for Canada to just keep DST year around.

 

[AA_Train]

It does take a bit to adjust to but it's not not impossible to cope with. If they keep it or get rid of it, either way, I will prevail.

 

[grizzly]

As an ex long haul trucker who ran all over Canada and the U.S., I dreaded it. Some states and provinces don't observe it. I Finally get used to the timezones, and they up and change and I'm expected to make deliveries on time. Running east was the worst as I already lose an hour or maybe two depending on how far east I was going, and now I lose another hour with the time change. Customers still expect their goods at 7 am pacific time and I have to make up that extra time somewhere.

Saskatchewan doesn't observe the time change, they say it's primarily due to the high agricultural industry and the cows still have to be milked the same time everyday. I say it's because who the hell wants to spend an extra hour in Saskatchewan? Just a joke Rider fans.

 

[clu]

Allegedly it helps with conserving power consumption. If we didn't shift, in the summer, the sun would rise at 4am when most people don't need light and set an hour earlier when we do. In the winter it would still be dark going to school/work more days, leading to people again needing artificial light (and so more electricity) during peak activity hours.

An article I found suggested it saves 0.5% on power consumption annually vs. not doing it, which isn't a lot individually but adds up across whole cities.

At least we don't do what Newfoundland tried years ago: double daylight savings... 2 hour changes instead of 1.

 

[sybian]

As an ex long haul trucker who ran all over Canada and the U.S., I dreaded it. Some states and provinces don't observe it. I Finally get used to the timezones, and they up and change and I'm expected to make deliveries on time. Running east was the worst as I already lose an hour or maybe two depending on how far east I was going, and now I lose another hour with the time change. Customers still expect their goods at 7 am pacific time and I have to make up that extra time somewhere.

Saskatchewan doesn't observe the time change, they say it's primarily due to the high agricultural industry and the cows still have to be milked the same time everyday. I say it's because who the hell wants to spend an extra hour in Saskatchewan? Just a joke Rider fans.

There are some remote ranches that own entire townships in the interior, that don't observe it either....but I suppose if you own that much land, and go to a town once a month.....you can pretty much do whatever you want.

 

[luvsdaty]

Just leave it on daylight saving time. It's already like that for 8 months.

 

[felixthecat]

Allegedly it helps with conserving power consumption. If we didn't shift, in the summer, the sun would rise at 4am when most people don't need light and set an hour earlier when we do. In the winter it would still be dark going to school/work more days, leading to people again needing artificial light (and so more electricity) during peak activity hours.

An article I found suggested it saves 0.5% on power consumption annually vs. not doing it, which isn't a lot individually but adds up across whole cities.

That argument is terribly outdated. In this century, high efficiency light bulbs are the norm. Say for a 13W light bulb, 13W x 1hr x 30 days = 0.39 kWh, saving you a whopping 4 cents in a month if you use it 1 hour less a day.
You can save hundreds times more by using green technologies and simply turning off unused devices.

DST could have a positive effect, just not a direct economic one. In that case, I'd say keep it through the year. There's no difference in the winter, it's dark in the morning and in the evening. Shifting the time by an hour doesn't seem to gain anything there.

 

[badbadboy]

ICBC stats show a much higher rate of accidents the week after Spring Forward and Fall Back. Most drivers are brain dead out there anyways and those weeks are much higher for accidents.

Besides, it confuses the Cows

I'm up very early anyways and could live without DST.

 

[whistlerboi]

+1for DST year-round.

 

[clu]

That argument is terribly outdated. In this century, high efficiency light bulbs are the norm. Say for a 13W light bulb, 13W x 1hr x 30 days = 0.39 kWh, saving you a whopping 4 cents in a month if you use it 1 hour less a day.
You can save hundreds times more by using green technologies and simply turning off unused devices.

DST could have a positive effect, just not a direct economic one. In that case, I'd say keep it through the year. There's no difference in the winter, it's dark in the morning and in the evening. Shifting the time by an hour doesn't seem to gain anything there.

Like I said, not a lot individually but it adds up across whole cities. I don't think anyone is implying it's about saving individuals money.

(I'd say that calculation is also a fair underestimate. Who lights their home with a single 13W light bulb? If I were to guess I'd say there's a couple 100 Watts of lights on in my place right now.)

 

[Addison Cortez]

I could do without it

 

[felixthecat]

Like I said, not a lot individually but it adds up across whole cities. I don't think anyone is implying it's about saving individuals money.

Who is saving then, if anybody? The extra electricity is bought at market prices, the money supports jobs and goes to the economy. It's not a total loss for the society.
There is a green effect, but it's much less than it was 100 years ago to justify DST. I hope people use not more than a few 8-13W bulbs at a time on average, but even with 200W the DST saving will be at most $0.60 a month - personally not enough for me to justify jumping through the hoops twice a year. If it's saving much less than 0.5% for an average individual, it won't save 0.5% on aggregate.

Whatever it is, I wish a modern cost/benefit analysis was done to decide it. We know now that traffic incidents increase 20% after clocks are shifted ahead, with the effect noticeable for a week. For Greater Vancouver, there are about 500 crashes a day on average. So this week will bring hundreds of unnecessary crashes in the area, with tens on injuries or worse. That is a total loss for the society at significant costs.

 

[luvsdaty]

The thought of the seagulls raising a ruckus every norning at 3:30 on the roof of my apartment sends shivers down my spine. Keep it on DST.

 

[take8easy]

I started threads about this a while ago and as usual I got mixed results.

This is how I see it;

1. If you are going to switch Reverse the time changeIf we need more sunshine in summer, when we get it quite a bit, then why not in winters? If you are going to switch, switch it the other way. I mean move the clock forward in winters so we can have more daylight till 5.30 pm. Heck, move it two hours up. The worst part of the winter is the early darkness.

2. Leave the time alone, No need to switch.... but keep the time on summer hours .. again so we can have day light longer in winters, when we can really use it.

As far as its effect on body... I think doctors and scientists sometimes seem to have too much time on their hands. I notice the difference on the Sunday because it is the first day. Monday because it is the first working day and just a bit on Tuesday. But seriously by Wednesday it is business as usual.

So my slogan is, PERMANENTLY SWITCH the clocks so we have daylight till at least 6 pm in winters and then stop this drama altogether.