Dating an escort
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Hoff you make it sound so easy. You must be some hot stuff if the ladies are lining up. I should pay you to give me lessons.
Hoff mentioned women want sex which is true but many still want a relationship...moreso than most men. Many women also understand that it is not realistic to "hold out" for a year as you mentioned, partly because they want sex but also becuase they know most men are not prepared to wait that long. There are many men who would agree that it is not difficult to find a pretty girl to have sex with but over time you realize there isn't much of a future due to incompatibility so you move on.
Hoff and Elmore I tryed that and well it never worked out. I spent a ton on professional dating services and executive dating coaches and well it was all dead ends. I do weigh in at 225 right now but I am 6'2". Just never been a ladys man. Like some one said maybe no personality. Most women don't like my lifestyle. Most women in my age range a not interested in a nomad. I need to hire you guys to take me out on the town and show me where all these recently separated or divorced ladies are in waiting.
I have to agree with this post. You are better to rent the hot 20 year olds but the 30-40 year olds are where a guy like you should be successful - they get the full picture of a man.
To the OP - the vast majority of escorts have no interest in ever dating a client. The vast majority of my off the clock experiences have been in the context of a compensated hour of playtime followed by fun time - a dinner or cocktails or whatever. When this happens, I am certain that it is because these women know I am not suddenly going to become clingy or mis-read the situation - they have decided I am a decent or fun enough guy to hang out with and that's it. The object of your affection is happy to take your money because it is all on the clock - that is what she does, although there are many escorts who are kind enough to not do it when they can see you are getting too close and would simply stop seeing you. Enjoy the sex, but unless you are off the clock, she is just doing her job.
Every time I read these threads I shake my head - this isn't a fucking dating service! I see escorts because I like to fuck. Hopefully, they like it too or can at least be great actresses. If I want a date, this is the last place to look.
I have a really nice single Aunt you should meet.
Joking...Back to the topic...
Take it from me as a former escort who gave up the industry for a SO, a few words of advice on this situation.
You started seeing an ESCORT. Escorts are not in the business for dating purposes, we are in it to pay our bills, just like everyone else when they go to work. How much do you really know about her? She could be married with four kids for all you know at this point. (I honestly know successful escorts where this is the case).
If you feel like there really is a spark there and she might be interested in you too, like many have suggested start with asking her out for a date off the clock. If she agrees to the date, take her somewhere low key, maybe just out for a simple dinner, to see if you have much in common off the clock.
If she says no, don’t feel bad. It is easy to get your feelings confused when you are involved with someone in an intimate situation, especially when you don’t have much experience with women.
Good Luck.
Read the book, "Emotional Vampires" and you will find out a few things that are quite evident in the disucssions above. What you are being subjected to in many cases is emotional vampirism, and even if you only read the first few pages of this book, you will see the SP Client relationship clearly described. And there is no doubt about it, many victims like having their blood sucked dry (wallets) by these Vampires. When the Vampire leaves for a new food supply, they wake up. So read the book, get out your Crucifix and Stakes, and be dealing with it.
As For you guys having issues dating women. I have a friend in your circumstances. His first issue is that he thinks he is going to pick the woman. His second is that he just excludes all the rest, and his third is that he ignores what women are doing to him around him.
What do I mean by all that. Well first, he is 60, heavy, but great personality and particular but a good dresser and good looker. Self centered too. He is almost doomed. The last gal he picked had mental problems. But what else do I mean? Well, when we are out say in a shopping center doing coffee, I notice a lot of women giving him a second look, a smile, striking up a conversation in the line up, but he doesn't see this. It is a kind of "you are not preapproved" attitude. And he closes off and moves away. Wrong move. No gal is going out with you unless she wants to, and the ones that want to are looking at you! Twice at least. Learn that.
So Dickson buddy change style. Lose weight if you have to, put on some simple but complimentary clothes, and go for awalk or drive. Don't look at the women to be picking one out, look at them to see if they are looking at you. If they are, no matter what your first impression is, smile back. If it invites a conversation, talk about some thing funny and positive.
Don't go for how you hate the tax system or politics. Just be chatty in an upbeat way. If that will get you a coffee with the gal or more, go for it. These gals are everywhere, Costco, Walmart, sitting in Starbucks etc.
I often drive around town on the way to meetings. Interesting when stopped at a stop light, how you look around into neighbour cars and see gals looking back at you. I give a smile and sometimes a wink. Makes her day, and is fun. Uplifting. I haven't had time to pursue one of them to a coffee shop, but bet if I my lips said Starbucks and pointed down the street to one, I might get a "date".
So stop "looking" like you are on the hunt, and do your "looking" as if you are the hunted, and do what you need to do to be prey to that gal with the smile or second look.
As For you guys having issues dating women. I have a friend in your circumstances. His first issue is that he thinks he is going to pick the woman. His second is that he just excludes all the rest, and his third is that he ignores what women are doing to him around him.
What do I mean by all that. Well first, he is 60, heavy, but great personality and particular but a good dresser and good looker. Self centered too. He is almost doomed. The last gal he picked had mental problems. But what else do I mean? Well, when we are out say in a shopping center doing coffee, I notice a lot of women giving him a second look, a smile, striking up a conversation in the line up, but he doesn't see this. It is a kind of "you are not preapproved" attitude. And he closes off and moves away. Wrong move. No gal is going out with you unless she wants to, and the ones that want to are looking at you! Twice at least. Learn that.
So Dickson buddy change style. Lose weight if you have to, put on some simple but complimentary clothes, and go for awalk or drive. Don't look at the women to be picking one out, look at them to see if they are looking at you. If they are, no matter what your first impression is, smile back. If it invites a conversation, talk about some thing funny and positive.
Don't go for how you hate the tax system or politics. Just be chatty in an upbeat way. If that will get you a coffee with the gal or more, go for it. These gals are everywhere, Costco, Walmart, sitting in Starbucks etc.
I often drive around town on the way to meetings. Interesting when stopped at a stop light, how you look around into neighbour cars and see gals looking back at you. I give a smile and sometimes a wink. Makes her day, and is fun. Uplifting. I haven't had time to pursue one of them to a coffee shop, but bet if I my lips said Starbucks and pointed down the street to one, I might get a "date".
So stop "looking" like you are on the hunt, and do your "looking" as if you are the hunted, and do what you need to do to be prey to that gal with the smile or second look.
^^ Great post.
I am married and see escorts because the playdates help to fill the gap that has resulted since my wife and I no longer have sex or any kind of intimacy. While I wouldn't preclude meeting a woman that is an escort from being a potental long term partner, what I am saying is that this is the wrong pond to be fishing in. It works great for me because I am not fishing.
However, I have noticed how easy it is to meet women just standing around and, as you say, reacting to the circumstances that present themselves. It helps if you can see the beauty in all women, and not just chase the ideal that you have created in your mind.
I am married and see escorts because the playdates help to fill the gap that has resulted since my wife and I no longer have sex or any kind of intimacy. While I wouldn't preclude meeting a woman that is an escort from being a potental long term partner, what I am saying is that this is the wrong pond to be fishing in. It works great for me because I am not fishing.
However, I have noticed how easy it is to meet women just standing around and, as you say, reacting to the circumstances that present themselves. It helps if you can see the beauty in all women, and not just chase the ideal that you have created in your mind.
newatit,
I might just give it a try in the airport or on my next flight and let you know how it goes. Thanks guys. As much as i gave up on it for nearly 8 years maybe it is time to give it a try again.
Thanks again
I might just give it a try in the airport or on my next flight and let you know how it goes. Thanks guys. As much as i gave up on it for nearly 8 years maybe it is time to give it a try again.
Thanks again
not fair (or professionally ethical) for her to use any phrase that sounds like: "maybe down the road"
If you are using her effectively you will be going on social excursions, like bowling, or dancing. Somewhere you have the opportunity to meet other women in a casual non threatening way, because, you are with a friend.
Women actually seem more attracted to men who already have a gf than the guy sitting alone.
You will be gaining confidence in social settings as she will help initiate conversations etc...learn by example.
You should put this into perspective as a "learning experience" and get some practice behind you!
If you are using her effectively you will be going on social excursions, like bowling, or dancing. Somewhere you have the opportunity to meet other women in a casual non threatening way, because, you are with a friend.
Women actually seem more attracted to men who already have a gf than the guy sitting alone.
You will be gaining confidence in social settings as she will help initiate conversations etc...learn by example.
You should put this into perspective as a "learning experience" and get some practice behind you!
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It Is Possible
As a lonely guy few years back, after my wife passed away, I started seeing SP's. Mostly I went for the Kinky ones, I like the look of a Dominatrix, but I don't like to be dominated. I wasn't into FS, Just daty and hot nipples to worship. I became "friendly' with a few of them, I was even invited to some wild Kinky parties for free, got to watch some wild Kinky action and videotape it, and even got a CBJ for free from one of the Mistresse's slave. One lady even offered to pay me, as I took her photo's, but I didn't want it, the show and BJ was great. So after all the wild adventures and fun, it was just friendship..That's it. Moved on, lost contact, interest etc..Then last year, one drunken lonely late nite, I texted this Kinky Domme, never heard from her for 1 month, so I was real excited to meet her when she finally texted me back. She said she could fulfill my fantasies, sexy stockings, 6 strap garters, corsets, high heels I Love the look Went to her place, she's hot&super slutty Dominatrix looking, pay her for a couple of hours, end up spending the night. I leave early morning, and we set a date up for next weekend. Well that weekend has never ended! We ended up falling in Love, yes Really, and have been together practically every night for the past year. I'm not a rich guy so she's not after me for my $$$. I've learned alot from her,people tend to look at SP's,as being inhuman or hardcore business woman, but they just doing an alternative profession. It does bother me sometimes when I think of her with another guy, but at the same time it's a turn on thinking how other men find her hot. Plus she's beyond just the best lover I've ever had, I can do anything I want with her, and she loves it. No prude here..Beyond the sex, the fantasies, she makes me suck her girlfriends pussy and watch them get it on...She's a fabulous person, funny as hell, great cook, clean, friendly, nice, compassionate, a bitchy mood sometime, I can't believe that I have a Girlfriend, even my best friend like this sometimes..She's Amazing..The only downside is this, you have to lie to Your friends and family about what she does, and a few of her SP friends are married, you just have to be an open minded person to accept this type of woman..
To make a long story end here. It is possible, but if she's still got you on the clock, then I doubt it. Good luck.
As a lonely guy few years back, after my wife passed away, I started seeing SP's. Mostly I went for the Kinky ones, I like the look of a Dominatrix, but I don't like to be dominated. I wasn't into FS, Just daty and hot nipples to worship. I became "friendly' with a few of them, I was even invited to some wild Kinky parties for free, got to watch some wild Kinky action and videotape it, and even got a CBJ for free from one of the Mistresse's slave. One lady even offered to pay me, as I took her photo's, but I didn't want it, the show and BJ was great. So after all the wild adventures and fun, it was just friendship..That's it. Moved on, lost contact, interest etc..Then last year, one drunken lonely late nite, I texted this Kinky Domme, never heard from her for 1 month, so I was real excited to meet her when she finally texted me back. She said she could fulfill my fantasies, sexy stockings, 6 strap garters, corsets, high heels I Love the look Went to her place, she's hot&super slutty Dominatrix looking, pay her for a couple of hours, end up spending the night. I leave early morning, and we set a date up for next weekend. Well that weekend has never ended! We ended up falling in Love, yes Really, and have been together practically every night for the past year. I'm not a rich guy so she's not after me for my $$$. I've learned alot from her,people tend to look at SP's,as being inhuman or hardcore business woman, but they just doing an alternative profession. It does bother me sometimes when I think of her with another guy, but at the same time it's a turn on thinking how other men find her hot. Plus she's beyond just the best lover I've ever had, I can do anything I want with her, and she loves it. No prude here..Beyond the sex, the fantasies, she makes me suck her girlfriends pussy and watch them get it on...She's a fabulous person, funny as hell, great cook, clean, friendly, nice, compassionate, a bitchy mood sometime, I can't believe that I have a Girlfriend, even my best friend like this sometimes..She's Amazing..The only downside is this, you have to lie to Your friends and family about what she does, and a few of her SP friends are married, you just have to be an open minded person to accept this type of woman..
To make a long story end here. It is possible, but if she's still got you on the clock, then I doubt it. Good luck.
I think Vanesssa's comment is the right one for this topic about to date an escort. I am in my 4th year to be client of one of the top girls in Vancouver(we both enjoy our time together, and our connection is really great), some times we both send an e-mail just to say hello and wonder how we are doing, just that; and I had never get in my mind that when she wrote me a line is because she is interested on me beyond the "escort-client" relationship.
Cheers!!!
Just read this thread today.
I think the op knew the real situation even as he wrote the initial post to this thread. Perhaps he was looking for some validation towards how he was behaving/feeling.
It seems like the op is getting some value for the $$$ he is putting out. He says he is getting extra services, which as long as they are safe services, would seem to be a plus. I believe it is ok to fantasize about having a "special" releationship with a SP, as long as you fully realize that it is a fanatsy. I believe very few of us see an SP simply to get our rocks off. If this were the case, why not just masterbate? Seeing an SP prettys well always has some fantasy element to it. For example, the SP might remind you of the school mate, work mate, Starbucks server, etc. you never managed to be intimate with.
So I see nothing wrong with the OP continuing to see his SP AS LONG AS he does realize that anything outside of their pressent client-server relationship is very unlikely to happen and he is getting value for his fantasies. And of course, as it says on the BC lottery websites: "Know your limit, play within it".
JD
I think the op knew the real situation even as he wrote the initial post to this thread. Perhaps he was looking for some validation towards how he was behaving/feeling.
It seems like the op is getting some value for the $$$ he is putting out. He says he is getting extra services, which as long as they are safe services, would seem to be a plus. I believe it is ok to fantasize about having a "special" releationship with a SP, as long as you fully realize that it is a fanatsy. I believe very few of us see an SP simply to get our rocks off. If this were the case, why not just masterbate? Seeing an SP prettys well always has some fantasy element to it. For example, the SP might remind you of the school mate, work mate, Starbucks server, etc. you never managed to be intimate with.
So I see nothing wrong with the OP continuing to see his SP AS LONG AS he does realize that anything outside of their pressent client-server relationship is very unlikely to happen and he is getting value for his fantasies. And of course, as it says on the BC lottery websites: "Know your limit, play within it".
JD
I am an escort and my last 2 relationships have been with gentlemen who I have met though my career... Both those relationships lasted many years , and I even retired for my last relationship. Sadly My relationships did work out but that was because I had a lot of growing up to do... I am still friends with one of these gents and happy for it. I have now been single for 4 years straight and the loneliness is starting to creep up on me...
I have NEVER used anyone for money , although I want a successful man , who adores me , and spoils me... I love a man with class , and I love a sweet talker, yeah I like being called 'baby or 'princess'' ( I eat that stuff up lol)
Respect is a must ,open communication , respect each other's differences its all about the ying and the yang baby, and yes money does matter , as that is one key reason for venturing into this work in the fist place.
I don't know, I feel that in this day and age if you can someone to love ,and who loves you back in return , then I say go for it, and good for you!
If you are lucky enough to find that person , then what she does for work should be secondary...
Oddly my ideal man would be someone I met though escorting, I want a man who has some understanding of me and my life. I also want a gentlemen who has been around the block a few times... YUMMY .... (I am sicko perv lol...
In my books nice guys ALWAYS finish first... Except in bed
I have NEVER used anyone for money , although I want a successful man , who adores me , and spoils me... I love a man with class , and I love a sweet talker, yeah I like being called 'baby or 'princess'' ( I eat that stuff up lol)
Respect is a must ,open communication , respect each other's differences its all about the ying and the yang baby
, and yes money does matter , as that is one key reason for venturing into this work in the fist place.I don't know, I feel that in this day and age if you can someone to love ,and who loves you back in return , then I say go for it, and good for you!
If you are lucky enough to find that person , then what she does for work should be secondary...
Oddly my ideal man would be someone I met though escorting, I want a man who has some understanding of me and my life. I also want a gentlemen who has been around the block a few times...
YUMMY .... (I am sicko perv lol...In my books nice guys ALWAYS finish first... Except in bed
So that is the conundrum many men expect to find with dating an escort - and perhaps making it permanent. If you as an escort are used to working the hours you want, never having to go to an office, being paid immediately, making $200-$400 per hour, clearing thousands every month (presuming you even pay taxes), and having such an easy lifestyle compared to your peers as females or even males who have to work 40 hours a week and pay their taxes, etc..... when the average gross income in Canada is roughly $50,000 (after taxes equal to about $35,000 - in other words, less than $3000 per month).
Well the question is, what kind of man is going to please you if you're used to such luxury?
And what happens if your man decides you should not be doing this work anymore, so you no longer have the benefit of your easy income.... would you expect him to compensate you equally for what you had to give up?
Buddy, do yourself a favour and go see Vanesssa. She has provided some of the best advice and can no doubt provide you more while you two play together. You don't have to stop seeing your current favorite but you should get some 'context' for determining your favorite. Just like everyone else there are bitch escorts, user escorts, kind escorts, caring escorts . . . . all of whatever we all are. And if you only know one or two then you won't get to compare and at your age with your experience you NEED comparisons. Really. I have had 30-40 girlfriends for weeks to years, been with hundreds of escorts from SWs to high priced, had bjs in an alley, in the nicest hotels around the world, on the beach, in the elevator, been ripped off, had a knife held to my throat (not a good experience ), and after a while you will get to 'sense' what makes sense and what doesn't. Get yourself some experience my friend.
), and after a while you will get to 'sense' what makes sense and what doesn't. Get yourself some experience my friend.
Yes that is the question ...
I am not sure but I hope to find out , and hopfully in this life time lol (crossing my fingers)... He will be special that I know ... ( I am hopelesss romantic I guess)
To be continued ...
I hope.............................................................
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In the future Please ...if you are going to quote me, then please properly quote me ,and leave my post just ,as t I wrote it ... you copied, pasted ,deleted , and, edited my post, to fit what you preceive to be ture , and that is not fair..., just saying.
