Dangerous client-heads up ladies

[Domina Alize]

now you are being completely disingenuous. i am sure you are aware that many men are hard wired to be sexually provoked by fetish wear, leather and PVC, corsets, thigh high boots etc and as such are just as turned on by fully clothed women as they are "near nude" ones. I doubt very much that "skin" is the thing that put buddy over the top.

I would also say that your clothing is probably worn to illicit some sort of sexual response. Even if that sexual response is never going to get farther than submission and a release sometime after the fact.

Hi Len,

Sorry, but we are going no where on this topic. I'm afraid we will have to disagree.

Regards,
Alize

 

[cuteeboy]

Rip

May this thread Rest in Peace.

cuteeboy

 

[Arabella]

Weighing in...

Mistress T, I am so sorry to hear of your bad experience but I do have words of advice:

1) Put on some clothes already! Most of the famous Dommes of the world keep their clothes on. Domination is not about peeling and attracting clients this way. Doing masturbation shows and making yourself look like a sex object is not good for your reputation or your mental health. Your photos, image and reputation WILL attract a seedy and questionable clientele. This is the real difference between a Dominatrix and a Service Provider.

2) Screen your clients/submissives! I know Dommes who have never had your horrific experience. Mainly because they do not see anyone but submissive men….they do not cater to masochists, fetishists, and switches who are not 100% submissive. These types of clients are known to cause problems in the industry. When you screen your clients, do you watch for assertive tones in the voice or email? Assertive males can pose problems during sessions.

3) You do not appear like a dominant woman! The whole school girl image makes you look vulnerable. Put on some leather and cover yourself up! You are suppose to be a woman of authority and dominance not some little tart who teases with her pussy. Again, your image projects vulnerability. Not only will you lose the bad clients by presenting yourself as real dominatrix, but you will gain some authentic submissives who are not interested in the image you are currently projecting.

4) It appears you only have 2 years of “professional experience!” You have no business training other women to become professional dommes. Find someone who has been in the business for at least 5 years and educate yourself properly about the business and the clientele. Having one or two meetings with experienced dominatrixes is not good enough. You should be under someone for at least a year. Who mentored you!!!?

I hope you never again have the experience you did recently. No one should have to go through what you did. But, there are ways to limit the possibility of scary clients. Becoming a real Dominatrix and not a “service provider,” is one way of limiting your bad experiences. I hope you listen to my advice.

Be well,
Alize

I dont often wade into the fray, as I am well aware that any post I write will be read by many people.

I am surprised by this post for a couple of reasons - and felt the need to respond.

Domina Alize - Why would a woman, when in her female power, give up that very same power in a judgemental post of another domme (her very first post I might add) in a forum where she is a) new to the board b) an unknown domina to this forum, c) has never been acquainted with Mistress T, and d) on a post that that was warning others to be careful of a bad client.

My dear, you come across in an interesting way out of the gate, are making many assumptions, and have also missed the point!

This post does not flatter you, and even if there are detractors of Mistress T, she would never do the same to another domme, because I know her to be genuine in that she supports the pro-domme and Perb community and gives back in positive ways. She also knows her strengths and weaknesses, and is aware of her likes and dislikes. She will always refer a client to another domme if she herself does not provide that service, or if there is a better provider out there than her.

There are many ways of providing services to clients, in fact - it is my belief that services are client driven. When you click with a potential client it can be on many different levels. So marketing yourself becomes challenging, but is also one off most of the time - not one client has all the same sexual needs or fetishes or kinks. Regardless of what you might think, a Domme provides a service to her client who seeks out a provider that gives him what he needs, or pushes the boundaries in a way that makes him feel safe. Nonetheless, HE is paying for a service!

You can't be all things to all people!

Perhaps there is a difference in many aspects of what you do vs. what Mistress T does, why would coming on this board and commenting on her domme style make her change who she is to suit someone she doens't know, who is speaking for the dominatrix community??

I think your post was self serving IMHO, and it was meant to publicly attack another member of the board. I am curious who you are - easy to hide behind a brand new profile, with no history, nothing for us to even know if you are a real domme. Do you have pictures? a website? what do you look like? What services to you provide?

Your comment about keeping clothes on and attracting seedy clients, being vulnerable and therefore potentially inviting to be attacked goes against everything a woman should stand for, which makes me wonder if you are a man? or maybe a TS? Very strange comments coming from a woman.

No one should be attacked for any reason - regardless of their state of dress or undress period. Neither should it matter whether you are a domme or an SP. We are SP's if we provide a service. There is personal responsibility. There was no way she could have seen that coming. Sometimes people just snap, a normal person having an abnormal moment. Happens all the time. No way to measure it. Humans are in a constant state of mental health ups and downs, and I don't think any of us are immune to it.

Where do you fit on the scale of emotional health? or maybe you are a little hormonal today??

Oh well........... Viva la difference!!

Thank you Mistress T for posting the warning so we can take precautions. It is a good reminder that as SP's (be it for sex, massage or Kink) we face the possibility at some point of a dangerous encounter with a client.

 

[edmontonsubbie]

I dont often wade into the fray, as I am well aware that any post I write will be read by many people.

I am surprised by this post for a couple of reasons - and felt the need to respond.

Domina Alize - Why would a woman, when in her female power, give up that very same power in a judgemental post of another domme (her very first post I might add) in a forum where she is a) new to the board b) an unknown domina to this forum, c) has never been acquainted with Mistress T, and d) on a post that that was warning others to be careful of a bad client.

My dear, you come across in an interesting way out of the gate, are making many assumptions, and have also missed the point!

This post does not flatter you, and even if there are detractors of Mistress T, she would never do the same to another domme, because I know her to be genuine in that she supports the pro-domme and Perb community and gives back in positive ways. She also knows her strengths and weaknesses, and is aware of her likes and dislikes. She will always refer a client to another domme if she herself does not provide that service, or if there is a better provider out there than her.

There are many ways of providing services to clients, in fact - it is my belief that services are client driven. When you click with a potential client it can be on many different levels. So marketing yourself becomes challenging, but is also one off most of the time - not one client has all the same sexual needs or fetishes or kinks. Regardless of what you might think, a Domme provides a service to her client who seeks out a provider that gives him what he needs, or pushes the boundaries in a way that makes him feel safe. Nonetheless, HE is paying for a service!

You can't be all things to all people!

Perhaps there is a difference in many aspects of what you do vs. what Mistress T does, why would coming on this board and commenting on her domme style make her change who she is to suit someone she doens't know, who is speaking for the dominatrix community??

I think your post was self serving IMHO, and it was meant to publicly attack another member of the board. I am curious who you are - easy to hide behind a brand new profile, with no history, nothing for us to even know if you are a real domme. Do you have pictures? a website? what do you look like? What services to you provide?

Your comment about keeping clothes on and attracting seedy clients, being vulnerable and therefore potentially inviting to be attacked goes against everything a woman should stand for, which makes me wonder if you are a man? or maybe a TS? Very strange comments coming from a woman.

No one should be attacked for any reason - regardless of their state of dress or undress period. Neither should it matter whether you are a domme or an SP. We are SP's if we provide a service. There is personal responsibility. There was no way she could have seen that coming. Sometimes people just snap, a normal person having an abnormal moment. Happens all the time. No way to measure it. Humans are in a constant state of mental health ups and downs, and I don't think any of us are immune to it.

Where do you fit on the scale of emotional health? or maybe you are a little hormonal today??

Oh well........... Viva la difference!!

Thank you Mistress T for posting the warning so we can take precautions. It is a good reminder that as SP's (be it for sex, massage or Kink) we face the possibility at some point of a dangerous encounter with a client.

wow...i couldn't have said it better myself. Even with three beers...or four.

That pretty much summates the situation and so, I would have only one question for Miss Alize....and that would be the "who are you?" question.

Are you the Domina Alize out of Washington D.C.???....or, are you, perhaps, a one post wonder who enjoys getting a rise out of people and who enjoys the various reactions? There's plenty of room in the lounge for that sort of antic...but, of course, it's a free world and you can and will post wherever you wish.

You could, of course, be anyone in the world. You may not care if anyone knows who you are. It may be irrelevant to you. This may just be good sport for you and you have satisfied your ache. Who knows? Who cares...

Have a most wonderful day,

eddie.

 

[submissive_one]

Dear Mistress Aslize,

i notice that you mention that it is you and your ass-ociates who are upset with Miss T for whatever reasons you have. You mention that Miss T should have 5 years experience for training purposes. That leaves a very small number of pro-dommes out there. The only ones in this city with that kind of experience are Egyptian Dom/Kira Kane/Cloe (or whatever she calls herself now) and one of her associates, Lorena, Enya, and perhaps just getting there, Divona.

Most of us know and respect many if not all of these dominas. i am almost certain that Lorena or Enya would not associate themselves or send a Mistress Aslize for slanderous purposes. So tell us, because we are all very curious, who are your so-called ass-ociates, Mistress Aslize?

 

[Hersissymaid]

Interesting read.

I was poking around here,and happened to run into this thread. Domme's definitely have to look out for their own safety,& really each other's,as its really a small community,and a lot of the time,a whole lot of people just dont realize that unfortunately.

Respect,in theory,is something that *should* be naturally given . Sometimes over time,people/Dommes/SP's/hell~ anyone can prove themselves to be not worth respecting.Some people *prove* themselves instantly good or bad,others do it over time. Usually true colors come out though.

Respect given/respect earned really.

Anyways,its definitely unfortunate that Domme's have to deal with *bad* clients. At the same time its interesting to see the dychotomy from the "other side" and see what all goes on. Informative AND interesting....which is I guess why all are here. This PLUS,one of my guilty pleasures is clicking on profiles,and seeing all the Domme's websites. It gets ermm *hot* in here seeing the sites,& the galleries of pics.wow,thankyou Ladies. I definitely look forward to seeing Domina Alize's site too,hopefully she will have it up for us to see(however the advertising deal works here,am not totally sure on how that works). in the near future.

 

[Sit_on_my_face]

Mistress T, I am so sorry to hear of your bad experience but I do have words of advice:

1) Put on some clothes already! Most of the famous Dommes of the world keep their clothes on. Domination is not about peeling and attracting clients this way. Doing masturbation shows and making yourself look like a sex object is not good for your reputation or your mental health. Your photos, image and reputation WILL attract a seedy and questionable clientele. This is the real difference between a Dominatrix and a Service Provider.

2) Screen your clients/submissives! I know Dommes who have never had your horrific experience. Mainly because they do not see anyone but submissive men….they do not cater to masochists, fetishists, and switches who are not 100% submissive. These types of clients are known to cause problems in the industry. When you screen your clients, do you watch for assertive tones in the voice or email? Assertive males can pose problems during sessions.

3) You do not appear like a dominant woman! The whole school girl image makes you look vulnerable. Put on some leather and cover yourself up! You are suppose to be a woman of authority and dominance not some little tart who teases with her pussy. Again, your image projects vulnerability. Not only will you lose the bad clients by presenting yourself as real dominatrix, but you will gain some authentic submissives who are not interested in the image you are currently projecting.

4) It appears you only have 2 years of “professional experience!” You have no business training other women to become professional dommes. Find someone who has been in the business for at least 5 years and educate yourself properly about the business and the clientele. Having one or two meetings with experienced dominatrixes is not good enough. You should be under someone for at least a year. Who mentored you!!!?

I hope you never again have the experience you did recently. No one should have to go through what you did. But, there are ways to limit the possibility of scary clients. Becoming a real Dominatrix and not a “service provider,” is one way of limiting your bad experiences. I hope you listen to my advice.

Be well,
Alize

You know..........MISS T asked me NOT to repond to any of her posts!!! But I draw the line here!!!

I'm sorry MISS T for for going against your demand!!! If I'm to be punished by you, ...then so be it but PLEASE forgive me!

Domina Alize....You have a couple of posts to your name and come on here and Give MISS T a lecture lesson in DOMME!!!!!!!!
Who the hell do you think you are and just who are you!!!!!??? Too me you sound like a granny thats ready for a seniors party!

MISS T may have 2 yrs of Domme training but she's damn awesome at it!! I've had 2 sessions with her and she rocked!!! Others on here can voucher for her as well!!

Not only does she rock but she's gorgeous too and has a body to die for!!!

And if you think she has no training and she came off the steet.....think again!!!

She's been with Mistress Sara Akeera who name is known outside of the lower mainland and maybe you should take a look at ....www.clubstiletto.com which she's been on there and let me tell you!!! There's no amateurs on there!!

Do us a favor and take a hike!! I'm sick of these people coming out of nowhere and acting like they're GOD!!

Ps......again, I'm sorry MISS T......I had to get it out of me!!!!!

 

[DominaPandora]

Dominant applies to what exercises principal control or authority or is unmistakably ascendant.

A Domme, whether male or female is not restricted to dressing, acting or scening in any particular way based upon the principles of others, regardless of who they may be. Being Dominant isn't about being any particular way and I'm glad of it. It'd be rather boring, I think. -laughs-

I am who I am, Miss T and every other Domme is who they are. We vary greatly and are no less dominant for it. Granted, Miss T tends towards a less conventional / classic Domme look, and everyone has a right to their opinion. One may think she looks vulnerable and not like it, another may think it's damn hot and love it. Variety is spice.

Domina Alize, your opinion is noted, as is the manner in which you chose to present it.

 

[Small pleasures]

You know..........MISS T asked me NOT to repond to any of her posts!!! But I draw the line here!!!

I'm sorry MISS T for for going against your demand!!! If I'm to be punished by you, ...then so be it but PLEASE forgive me!

Domina Alize....You have a couple of posts to your name and come on here and Give MISS T a lecture lesson in DOMME!!!!!!!!
Who the hell do you think you are and just who are you!!!!!??? Too me you sound like a granny thats ready for a seniors party!

MISS T may have 2 yrs of Domme training but she's damn awesome at it!! I've had 2 sessions with her and she rocked!!! Others on here can voucher for her as well!!

Not only does she rock but she's gorgeous too and has a body to die for!!!

And if you think she has no training and she came off the steet.....think again!!!

She's been with Mistress Sara Akeera who name is known outside of the lower mainland and maybe you should take a look at ....www.clubstiletto.com which she's been on there and let me tell you!!! There's no amateurs on there!!

Do us a favor and take a hike!! I'm sick of these people coming out of nowhere and acting like they're GOD!!

Ps......again, I'm sorry MISS T......I had to get it out of me!!!!!

Sit_on_my_face: I know you have the best intentions but I really wish you wouldn't post about me. You may think you're helping but sometimes what you say isn't actually helpful. Thank you though.

Everyone else: I want everyone to feel comfortable expressing their opinions on here. Even if we disagree with them or don't understand them. I don't want potential new contributers to be scared to post here.

I actually don't have an issue with Alize sharing her opinion. She does have a right to it. My issue is that she pretended to be giving helpful, caring advice when in fact she was personally attacking me. Some kind of malicious not-so-hidden agenda. I also have a problem with anyone telling me how I 'should' run my business or run my life. To use one random moment as 'proof' that I don't know what I'm doing, am not qualified to train anyone and am the black sheep of the profession, etc. etc.

It's all pretty silly really. Entertaining none-the-less and we do read Perb for entertainment after all. We've all wanted more action in here and although this isn't the kind of action I wanted, it has been interesting.

I'm going to start a couple more threads soon that I hope will be more positive. Maybe Alize will comment on those too and give us some more entertainment. Bring it on. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for her website or photo's though.

 

[Dark_Knight]

I have been reading this all and generally I try to stayaway from this sort of thing, but the one thing I must comment on is about domme alize's post...

1. She only joined in July of this year and then wants to lecture others on how to act... Maybe get a little credibility on the board before thrusting your own agenda upon everyone.

2. Her point of view is why I tend to stay away from actual bdsm meets. Mind you not everyone shares her point of view but there are a lot of "Old Guard" that feel you have to live by a certain set of rules in order to be into bdsm. I am sorry but it doesn't work that way. Everyone explores bdsm differently as not all people share the same interests within the realm of bdsm. I also disagree with having set rules... If you have to follow certain rules and protocols, doesn't that diminish your own true Dominant or submissive spirit? It is that mentality that actually makes it harder for bdsm to be accepted from people in the vanilla world. Perhaps they should focus on what they do themselves rather than preach on about what others are or aren't doing.


DK

 

[joedaddy]

Bottom line, it is never OK to use violence against a woman. That is not OK. Mistress T, I really hope you are doing better and have had the opportunity to talk about this with friends. Don't let it shake your confidence and sense of safety.

 

[Sit_on_my_face]

Bottom line, it is never OK to use violence against a woman. That is not OK. Mistress T, I really hope you are doing better and have had the opportunity to talk about this with friends. Don't let it shake your confidence and sense of safety.

Right on the nail. And to add to that is that through thick and thin, you will always have for all of us, our strong support!

Hope you doing better and hold you head high.

Cheers

 

[Good Gloria]

on the island

I was contacted by someone wanting the sub position... with a 604 number.
I am on the island yet I often get inquiries from the mainland.

I am assuming you are in Vancouver.

I will reread all this to see if you posted the info.

**** has a bad boy list. c...e...r..f..

~~~~not a Dom but most think I am or should be