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blondeluver

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I don't see any lowering of prices. I know one lady close to mid 40s still asking 600/hr at the lowest.
IMHO, everyone has their freedom and prerogative to set their price and as clients, we have the choice to see them or not. Personally, I don't believe in paying anything over $350/hour experience. Been there done that and at the end of the day, it is really no difference.
 

mr.idoks

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How do they get clients ?
is it the cuddle site ?
sugar sites, social media, dating apps, in person.
most girls only have a couple of "clients" or sugar daddies at a time. thats why they prefer it, they dont need to have sex with a bunch of randoms guys, or atleast not as many as the typical SP.
 

mr.idoks

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I’ve been priced out of the incall market and now do mp’s but I follow the same rule I always have . If my experience is meh , but do to things like lack of connection, I just wasn’t as into her as I thoiught I would be , she’s not as good inbed but I can see she gave it the honest college try ,, then I don’t review at all , not good or bad, just nothing.

If service flat out sucks , just a money grab , even if she’s way hot, I’ll generally write a short but honest review which would likely be more negative .

If the service is great , even if she’s just descent looking, but man she’s really into it amd just wants you to have a great experience w her, traditionally I’ve written positive reviews of those ladies.

One time however when I was a newbie a ton of perb members , amd I mean a TON , kept RAVING about the same women. I was too in experienced to even think of asking how old the guys were that were leaving these rave reviews. But I did look her up . She had two names she advertised under on LL , and in all of her pictures she looked about 35, mayney 40. Not a hot 40 but ok, and if the service was what these guys said it was I could live with it .
Well I went to her place, which was hard as fuck to find, lived in the middle of freaking no where ville,
Walked in , I shit you not , she was anywhere between 65 and 75 yrs old , and quite hideous as well.
No word of a lie . Looked Nothing like the photos , NOTHING. Zero resemblance. Obviously there was no way I was staying .Complete waste of my time. Took me two hrs to find her place .
In that case I left a scathing review.
I definitely am more generous with my reviews if the girls extremely friendly , gives good service, is professional etc.
I also should note to anyone who reads my reviews, im rating their looks in comparison to other escorts, not what I would rate her is she was a civilian. If I were to rate them in comparison against civilians and girls in my peer group/age group their scores would be much much lower haha,

I gotta agree, Ive seen many "highly reviewed girls" who have looked very very different from their photos, and they are almost always older than their listed age. yet non of their reviews mention it.
I think some guys on here also are afraid the girl or agency will figure out who they are and connect their number to their perb account, which can get them blackballed from agencies or certain girls . which also leads to guys waiting a period of time before writing a review on a girl (which is what I do). ive got like 5 girls im waiting to post reviews on haha.

Im also wary if there havent been any other reviews posted on a girl yet, cause although its very unlikely what if im the only guy she has seen her haha. Im currently waiting to post a review on a newer tryst girl who charged in the $1000 range, but no one else has reviewed her yet so im just waiting on it incase im the only one she has seen lol
 

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I have wondered if somehow the pooning rates have been kept artificially high by a lack of price competition. In any business where there are excess profits you would see new competitors entering the industry and driving down rates..of course that is in industries where there are low barriers to entries. So I'm wondering what would happen if a new pretty girl enters the business and says I'm going to undercut and charge only $225 an hour and get increased market share. Would such a girl even be able to do that or would she be harrased and driven out of business by other SW who would prefer the base rates stay at their current elevated levels?
I live way outside the lower mainland and what has happened here is the Asian providers have moved in to fill the $200 void the non-Asian providers have abandoned. Asian providers are now predominant on LL, and this wasn't the case 5 years ago.

I think the Asian providers understand there is a price point on the curve that maximizes their income, and this is something others have not yet learned.
 

Once you go black

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IMHO, everyone has their freedom and prerogative to set their price and as clients, we have the choice to see them or not. Personally, I don't believe in paying anything over $350/hour experience. Been there done that and at the end of the day, it is really no difference.
I’ve seen some just beautiful women pre covid that now would be out of my price point, phenomenal service as well, but I’m honest with myself, I will not be able to find that quality in my current price point, so I set my expectations accordingly.
at the same time I also had some lemons in the higher range as well so its always a gamble , once I find a handful of women I know I love seeing I tend to stick to the harem as long as I can until they move up too high or retire.

Also for me just cutting time down to 30 min doesn’t work , I’ve learned the hard way I need 45 otherwise I’m pretty much flushing my money .
 

mr.idoks

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Was it quite a noticeable difference ?
Her photos were photoshopped a bit. she still had a fantastic body, just not as insanely nice as the photos. listed age was off, she casually told me her real age.
Besides that she was great, still super hot, sweet girl, with good service and attitude. I would recommend her, but its a little disingenuous not being exactly as advertised at that price point.
 

Once you go black

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Her photos were photoshopped a bit. she still had a fantastic body, just not as insanely nice as the photos. listed age was off, she casually told me her real age.
Besides that she was great, still super hot, sweet girl, with good service and attitude. I would recommend her, but its a little disingenuous not being exactly as advertised at that price point.
To be fair , everyone fudges a little now a days .
Everyone on the dating apps is spinning their profile in the most appealing light possible , everyone on social is zhooshing up their pics w the apps . People automatically assume what ever you portray is exaggerated so if you are completely transparent you will likely lose business.
its like entering a mr universe competition now a days without steroids .
 
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mr.idoks

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To be fair , everyone fudges a little now a days .
Everyone on the dating apps is spinning their profile in the most appealing light possible , everyone on social is zhooshing up their pics w the apps . People automatically assume what ever you portray is exaggerated so if you are completely transparent you will likely lose business.
its like entering a mr universe competition now a days without steroids .
I know.
the difference is when im meeting a girl from a dating app or IG etc, im not dropping $500-1000.

If they are actually as hot as they portray themselves they wouldnt be losing business by being transparent. I can think of a couple SP's who looks better than their photos and I was pleasantly surprised, but thats like 1 in 10 girls though. 9 out of 10 times they look worse. maybe some of these SP's need to step foot in the gym and clean up their diet rather than catfishing men.

and thats not even going into lying about age, which as a guy in his 20s still, who likes to fuck girls in their 20s, its extremely deceptive.
 

Once you go black

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The new entrants rates would rise to match other independents. Demand would force her to raise prices from sheer exhaustion.

The truth is if it wasn’t for the bunz club, 2274 agency, 1122 agency, pdc and luxxe group, rates would be much higher in the city. They keep prices lower because they have better controls on their overhead costs pertaining to security, condos and management. The independent provider cannot match their structure and economic advantages.
Asian fever still has girls that are less than $300 for 45 min
 

SenClayDavis

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I know, right? Service seems to have become a lot worse since COVID. Impersonal and lackluster. Scrolling their phones while they jackhammer a tepid ol' glory. They should at least pretend they are enjoying their time with you.
Yes that's been my experience as well. Service across the industry seems to have gone down dramatically over the last several years. What was once considered very average service 10 years ago is now advertised and considered as GFE.

There are of course still great providers but they're becoming less and less common.
 
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SenClayDavis

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I gotta agree tbh haha.
Its like im paying more to see a girl who is now older. youth is their greatest currency, so it doesnt make sense in my mind to spend more money on a woman who is now older, less tight etc. just being honest.
theres exceptions of course, but ive seen alot of girls go downhill fast in the looks, service and attitude department, it can happen in just a few months.

moneys no issue for me, I can afford to see the escorts I want to see as much as I want. issue is, its becoming increasingly difficult to find SP's who im actually attracted to. even the ones who look good in their pics in their ads oftentimes dont looks as good in person. it doesnt help that theres a plethora of touch deprived men on here who are too scared to write honest reviews.
I agree completely with this.
 
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SenClayDavis

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I live way outside the lower mainland and what has happened here is the Asian providers have moved in to fill the $200 void the non-Asian providers have abandoned. Asian providers are now predominant on LL, and this wasn't the case 5 years ago.

I think the Asian providers understand there is a price point on the curve that maximizes their income, and this is something others have not yet learned.
I generally avoid Asian providers in that price range as I'm genuinely concerned about human trafficking.
 
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Once you go black

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I generally avoid Asian providers in that price range as I'm genuinely concerned about human trafficking.
Not to say it doesnt happen or understate your concerns at all , very admirable.
Just for the record,
I know a few asian providers that work at amp voluntarily that are in the $200-250 price , I know them quite well , a little more than the average customer , and I can guarantee they are not victims of human trafficking.
In fact even at that price range they srill average take home average $1000 per day .
 

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Not to say it doesnt happen or understate your concerns at all , very admirable.
Just for the record,
I know a few asian providers that work at amp voluntarily that are in the $200-250 price , I know them quite well , a little more than the average customer , and I can guarantee they are not victims of human trafficking.
In fact even at that price range they srill average take home average $1000 per day .
Things aren't always as they appear. I am not trying to say you are wrong, but just because they "told" you something it doesn't make it true.
 

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Two of them drive BMW suv’s . They make more money than most of the customers,
We’ll agree to disagree.
A few years ago I was at an Asian massage parlour for a rub and tug. While casually chatting with the masseuse I mentioned that I had a job in the aviation industry.

She told me that she would be flying to another Canadian city soon. She asked me if it was OK to take $30,000 cash in her carry-on luggage. 😮
 

westwoody

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Two of them drive BMW suv’s . They make more money than most of the customers,
It’s fine to thank someone for patronage.
Flaunting is going to rub some customers the wrong way.
I don’t begrudge ladies who tolerate me and wish I could pay them more. This is in bad taste though.
 

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Once you go black

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A few years ago I was at an Asian massage parlour for a rub and tug. While casually chatting with the masseuse I mentioned that I had a job in the aviation industry.

She told me that she would be flying to another Canadian city soon. She asked me if it was OK to take $30,000 cash in her carry-on luggage. 😮
Thats hilarious 🤣
 
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