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Listening to CKNW last night, the topic came up about Germany and their legalisation of the sex trade during a world cup soccer event and how it stayed. They ventured to talk about setting up red light districts during the winter olympics......

Any comments

Regards

H
 

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I don't think that a red light district in vancouver would be a good idea. I've seen the RLD in Amsterdam, and I certainly didn't come away from it thinking that it was awesome.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

1. It is still run by pimps.
2. Violence and crime is still prevelant.
3. It really objectifies the women involved... and honestly, none of them looked particularily happy. Bored, mostly. Or drunk or strung out. A few looked way to young to be there.

I think that there is this perception that having a RLD solves problems, when really it doesn't. The people of Amsterdam are not so appreciative of it either. The most tolerant would say "go see it once, just to see what it's about." The rest assume that every other visitor is either there for the drugs or the girls. (and no, I did not partake in anything at all. I really had no desire to do so.)

I don't blame them.

No, I think something a little more controlled and alot more discrete is needed in north america. Strange as it may sound, I believe the government should step in and regulate the industry to a decent extent.

This would allow them to provide better security and better health and rehab services to the girls who are at risk. All Europe does is test them for STD's. Also, it would be much easier to wrest control from the pimps that are currently out there.

Yes, effectively the government would become the "pimp". That's a very delicate issue that would have to be dealt with.

Lastly, having a more heavily regulated industry as far as independants and mp's go... well, cut the red tape for those that want to do it for a living (although I'd have rules about gaudy signage, like Mdm Cleos had) and make it easier to help those that have been forced into it or feel they have no recourse.

Better protection for the women (and men, I suppose) involved. With that kind of control, you also might be better equipped to takle any underage sex trade that may go on as well.

Right now with everything swept under the carpet, well, people are getting hurt. It shouldn't be this way.
 

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As long as there is a right wing, and morally righteous, Conservative government in Ottawa, don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.

Besides, there are too many other issues on the public agenda that are far more important than red-light districts.
 

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Listening to CKNW last night, the topic came up about Germany and their legalisation of the sex trade during a world cup soccer event and how it stayed. They ventured to talk about setting up red light districts during the winter olympics......

Any comments

Regards

H
When is the mainstream media going to understand that there is a clear difference between enterprising prostitutes and street hookers. Im guessing that they were talking about setting up red light districts to get girls off the street. That is insane.

Europe looks at it totally different. This is a news clip from Germany-

It is deploying an army of prostitutes to satisfy the needs of libidinous fans during the month-long 2006 World Cup.

Some 1 million foreign visitors are expected to flood into Germany from June 9 and many expect large numbers of male spectators to wind down after a match in the arms of a prostitute or in the red light districts of the 12 host cities.

Hamburg's St. Pauli quarter, the country's largest and most famous red light district, is bubbling with optimism that it could be a bumper season for the legal sex industry.

"Football and prostitution are a great match," said Hans-Henning Schneidereit, owner of the St. Pauli's Safari Cabaret, renowned for its sex shows.

"You get lots of men at the right biological age and all fired up by a football match. What else could you hope for?"

Schneidereit said he expected 30 percent more customers during the tournament, adding that his forecast was conservative compared to those made by some of his rivals.
 

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I'm from the government and I am here to help?

It is best to get rid of the hamful laws before you start making new laws and creating new government agencies. If you want to do something about the survival sex trade on the streets then make drug use a health problem instead of a criminal problem and improve the health care and social assistance systems.

Sorry, I forgot, we need that money to pay for the Olympics.

Jodie Patterson in Victoria did a prostitution tour of New Zealand last year where they recently improved the laws regarding prostitution. The documentary should be out this spring. I understand life has gotten better for women in the sex trade as a result. There are more women sharing a house in quiet neighbourhoohs. The neighbours don't seem to mind and the women have better access to health care, police and general acceptance in the community.
 

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Cooperative Brothel Enterprise

Past and present enforcement strategies have for the most part had no effect on the health and safety of communities where sex work occurs and has only served to displace street level sex work, tell sex workers where they can’t work and caused violence, abductions and death of sex industry community members.

Sex workers in the Downtown East Side of Vancouver have expressed their need for a safe place to work. The most fundamental things enjoyed by Canadian workers such as a toilette to use while on shift or a place to wash after entertaining a client are not available to the sex workers in the east end.

The trial in the case of the missing women has put the spot light on the dangerous conditions that the sex workers on the street face every night and the sex workers themselves have called for the immediate stabilization of their safety.

An indoor venue where sex workers could bring their clients could greatly increase a sex workers ability to negotiate the terms of the work or refuse dangerous work. Sex Workers in the downtown east side are asking for the opportunity to demonstrate the impact we believe bringing the sex trade in off of the street will have on the health and safety of the entire community.

During the Living in Community Project which engaged all stake holders in designing an action plan to address the immediate issues facing communities and sex workers, residents and business owners impacted by street level sex work expressed their greatest complaints were:

* The residual mess - condoms and other garbage
* The public violence - every one agrees that the level of violence endured by survival sex workers is unacceptable.
* sex in plain view - looking out your window and seeing sex workers and customers together.
* Unwanted attention from sex consumers endured by women who are not sex workers
* And their children being faced with sex workers on the street while out in the community or on the way to school

It is hoped that by bringing the trade in off the street these issues will be greatly impacted. With a place to dispose of condoms and to entertain clients out of the public eye, the health and safety of ALL community members it is hoped will be impacted.

This Safe Work Site will be completely designed by, owned by, profited from, voted on and controlled by the sex workers themselves and reflect what a safe work environment means to them.

Many people find the Coop Brothel concept difficult to understand. Questions about how profits will be shared and rumours of rounding up sex workers and corralling them have completely missed the basic principle of this idea. The coop will not be about profit sharing, it will be about sharing expenses.

Cooperative business models are designed to accommodate an identified common need within a community. The sex workers in the downtown eastside are the members of the sex industry community most directly impacted by uninformed actions and lack of safe work environments and of course they suffer the most violence and have the highest mortality rate. That is not to say that indoor sex industry workers don’t feel the same impacts, it’s just not at as high of a rate.

This common need of a safe work environment is the foundation of the cooperative brothel enterprise. So, the sex workers in the downtown east side agreed that together they could share expenses and afford to maintain such a space.

The discussion continued and it was decided that a steam bath business model or “rooms by the hour” was the best way to make it accessible to all. This business model allows a private space where technically 2 consenting adults could engage in the legal exchange of sex for money. Sex workers would meet their clients in the traditional ways like on the internet, through ads in the paper and on the street. They would then bring their client to the safe work site or meet him/her there and rent a room for the encounter. It is hoped that the rates can be kept to a minimum in order to make the rooms accessible, cheap and preferable to criminal charges.

The group decided sex workers would not have to be a coop member to access the site, but to vote on what to do with any profits membership would be required.

The discussion continued along the lines of what to do with any profits generated by the safe work space. For those of you who doubt it’s sustainability, I once watched 6 different sex workers leave with 6 different clients within 10 minutes from 1 corner…even at $2 to rent a room that will add up!

Because the cooperative is a “for profit endeavour”, I joked that we could vote to buy a hot tub or vote to take a trip to Las Vegas. The group light heartedly speculated on this for a while but then returned to things we as a community need. We discussed pensions and extended medical but most notably a scholarship fund for the children of dead sex workers. The generosity on selflessness of this community who have so little never ceases to amaze me.

An “Anti Brothel” campaign launched by abolitionist or “end sex work” groups has severely crippled our plans for this initiative. Reactionary reports of “Olympic Brothels” which lied about the intentions of this enterprise have turned into a far reaching campaign on going for more than a year. These groups are generously funded and have the resources to maintain their attacks stating everything from organized crime being in control of the brothel to how no first nations people were consulted.

This project reflects the diversity of the sex working community as it includes women, men and trans-individuals as well as those from different ‘classes’ and varying capacities and abilities. More specifically, sex workers engaged are multi-literate and culturally diverse. First Nations, Asian, Caucasian, Black workers and those of mixed race are currently invested.

Cooperative business models by their very nature are not controlled by any one person. The idea that organized crime would control the activities of the safe work site is ridiculous and inflammatory. These statements were intended to undermine public confidence in the safe work site and it’s planned activities and it seems to have had some effect.

Article 22 in the International Charter of Human Rights defends a person from arbitrary attacks upon their honour and reputation. The effects of these attacks upon our ability to fulfill this objective are proof of why that provision exists in the Charter. We did enquire into legal recourse but unfortunately no lawyers were willing to risk engaging on our behalf. The Sex Industry Community is still not seen as a distinct culture and as a result we have difficulty defending our human rights on many levels.

Because of the systematic targeting and elimination of the safer indoor sex work venues and limited numbers of highly competed for jobs, sex workers in the downtown east side cannot find work in the safer indoor work environments. Why are sex industry workers within these high end escorting/massage venues seen as valuable and worth protecting? Do the workers on the street not deserve health, safety and dignity at work?

Article 1 of the Charter states all are to be treated equally in the eyes of the law. Clearly this fundamental rule is being overlooked in many ways including what is described above.

Currently, we are on hold with this enterprise as we try to raise funds to see our plans through.
 

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no one supports red light districts, it won't work some one will inevitably work out side of it as it's too crowded or when there's no money.

not government, not sex workers, and it's proven to harm not help.
 

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COOP Shares

I would be willing to put some money into a coop Safe Work Site (SWiS?). Is it set up to sell COOP shares?

Scientific American had an article on a COOP in India that has been very successful.
 

susi

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we have that option, selling shares to non sex working people- but have not set up for it yet. we are for profit and would have to determine what membership shares would entitle their holders too as far as decision making, etc

we had applied to the cooperatives development initiatives fund but were turned down. i am currently investigating the possibility of the western diversification fund as far as the cafe aspects.

the web site has all kinds of info and a copy of the proposal as it was submitted to ottawa. www.wccsip.ca

i'm in that documentary with jody but people really seem confused by the coop business model. i was inspired by mohammad yunnus winning the nobel peace prize for coop micro lending in india, that where this all began.

i met some of the sex workers from the DMSC in india at a conference in montreal , so cool!!

we have no clue how we will fund the brothel nor where it will be...

that being said, sell out the commodore ballroom at $50 a head...$50,000.00
maybe we should look past the usual funding avenues and try to draw on our social capitol.

that being said, anyone who would like to work on this with me would be welcome!!!
 

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Thanks Susi, for your educated insight to this issue. Just who are the people that belong to “Anti Brothel”/ “end sex work” groups? And what are their agendas. Have the Puritans that left Europe because of persecution for their beliefs now become the persecutors’?

Regards

H

:( :( :(
 

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Brothels in Deutschland ROCK..!! And the party-clubs are not to be missed. I was there for a month and the only place I did not have fun was a strip club that billed itself as 'An american club' so naturally it was overpriced and dull.

I did a series of posts on CAF on my adventures and to sum up: it's cheap, convenient, there is no red lite district per se, and the girls are happy (at least they were with me). Clean apartments with 3-4 girls, they treat you with class and language is not a barrier.

The Party-clubs charge a fee to enter ($75 or so but have discount nites) and then it's like a guy's spa, bar, free food, private rooms, porno movies, public beds, and lots of pretty girls of ALL types. About $80-100 a go, stay all day if you like, or leave and come back later. Fun does not describe it...
 

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... Just who are the people that belong to “Anti Brothel”/ “end sex work” groups? And what are their agendas... :(
From what I saw in the video of a meeting in Vancouver a few years ago, the most vocal opponents were well meaning women, some of them past sex workers, who believe they are protecting other women by denying them access to harm reduction and opposing any legitimacy to sex work. There is much that can be said against these opponents but it works better if you try to understand and respect their opinion, however misguided or arrogant. I have to work on the respect part myself.
 

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Thanks Susi, for your educated insight to this issue. Just who are the people that belong to “Anti Brothel”/ “end sex work” groups? And what are their agendas. Have the Puritans that left Europe because of persecution for their beliefs now become the persecutors’?

Regards

H

:( :( :(

yes, essentially that's where it comes from, puritanism or a movement called social gospel. i understand that the feminazis mean well, but that doesn't change the fact that abolition is killing us, i don't care how well meaning...

here' some stuff i wrote about it, hate crimes, sex industry culture...how this shit has happened.


Culture

Criminalization has isolated the under ground community from the mainstream and allowed us to evolve as a separate distinct culture which has its own art, language and rules. Different things are honorable or polite to us. If you imagine that the currently the accepted average age of entry in the sex industry is 14 years old (these numbers are skewed by a disproportionate sample taken mostly from street venues as opposed to indoor legal work spaces) and as one of the coop development team members you are 56 years old, you have been isolated from the mainstream community for 42 years. Matters of honor, respect and even language have evolved completely separately from the mainstream community.

This creates misunderstandings and makes it difficult for sex industry workers or other members of the underground community to communicate their needs or function within mainstream culture/ employment. Understanding our culture could greatly improve understanding between sex workers and those who are charged with our protection.


Some examples of terms that members of WCCSIP have seen create barriers in the past;

• Honey/ baby/ darling- Although acceptable in mainstream culture, these terns are considered patronizing or insulting in under ground culture. A sex industry worker of 32 years is a veteran, a survivor and is no body’s baby.
• Prostitute- We are sex industry workers; prostitute is a term that encompasses the oppression of our community. This word demeans us, degrades us and contributes to the perception of sex workers as less than human or disposable.
• Real Women- WCCSIP members described mainstream community members discussing sex workers vs. “real women” in terms of protection and support. This kind of “othering” also contributes to the perception that we are some how less or disposable.

Some examples of practices WCCSIP members have seen create barriers in the past;

• Wearing a gun or uniform- Because the oppression and isolation of the underground community through criminalization, our culture fears uniforms and guns. When engaging us, wear plain clothes and come unarmed to ensure all feel safe expressing their needs.
• Don’t ask us to “rat”- In the underground culture, criminalization has created a wall of silence. The number one rule on the street is never; under any circumstances speak to the authorities. That could mean social services, family services, police or any other group/ person with power over our safety.

This underground culture will vary from place to place with some consistency coming from community members moving around the region/country. A translator is the best way to ensure no problems arise due to miscommunication. One can draw on local front line support agencies for people who understand local culture and hopefully connect mainstream audiences with experiential translators as time goes on and trust between the two cultures is renewed.


Hate Crimes

In the BCCEC report, “From the Curb” Sex workers who participated listed the following acts as violence;
• Physically being beaten, raped or assaulted by dates, pimps and drugs dealers
• Being ignored, belittled, humiliated, sworn at, shunned by police and public for being a “dirty ho, crack whore, or slut”
• Having items thrown at them from vehicles- (very common)

Sex workers commented that even children threw garbage at them. People in cars throw beer bottles, pennies, pop and hot coffee. One respondent lost part of her ear due to an assault by a non sex working woman in which the woman threw a beer bottle at her while she was working on the street. Sex workers in our consultation described the pain of being “beaten down by words”. Experiences of robbery were also very prevalent amongst respondents. Workers felt they were more at risk after they had made some money.

Their words;
• “Any type of mistreatment is violence because people don’t care what happens to our kind.”
• “Being looked at like you’re less”
• “Saying no to allowing us use of their phone or washroom- it leaves us depending on dates and other people who like to harm us.”
• “Being mistreated by the public”
• “People laugh at me”
• It’s like they take this beautiful thing we have… the ability to give love, and they destroy it.”
• “Johns demean you like you are merely flesh that doesn’t deserve respect like anyone else”
• “It’s dangerous out there, especially recently with incidents of getting stripped, ripped off, pushed out of the car naked and hit.”

Sex workers described violence as activities ranging from public humiliation and social exclusion to more extreme incidents of beatings, sodomy, rape, extreme violence and the abduction and murder of their friends.

Overwhelmingly sex workers agreed that violence against our community should be considered a hate crime. They also noted that doing so puts their violent experiences into a deeper context. They expressed that violence against our population is done with “specific intent to cause harm” due their social identity and compounded by their sheer accessibility.

The Sex Industry Community as a distinct culture

Currently violence against sex workers is not considered a hate crime. Although most can agree that there’s not much difference between a truck full of good ‘ol boys in white hoods jumping in the truck to drive downtown and find some to lynch and a bunch of teenagers jumping in their car to go downtown and throw things at “crack whores”. The most disturbing aspect of this is that most of our community members reported the majority of attacks of this nature were being committed by women.

When we delve into history a bit we find references to the sex industry all through out recorded time; Always kept separate, always a distinct and secretive culture. A difficult revelation about recent history is that women in fact are responsible for a lot of the stigma sex industry community member live with today. In 1917 when women received the vote in the War Time Election Act one of the first actions influenced by their vote was the implementation of prohibition. Drugs, alcohol, gambling and sex were all made illegal. Unfortunately for sex industry workers that made us as people illegal.

During this time sex workers were put into asylums under the guise that they were somehow mentally ill thus their immoral behavior. This attack on sex workers in particular female sex workers by other women resulted in great pain and in some cases death for the workers affected. These women went as far as to create an ad campaign depicting sex workers as evil and as the vectors of disease. Their campaign of speeches, posters and radio spots was so broad and far reaching that this stigma exists to this day. We can see in the high numbers of women reportedly attacking sex industry community members and in the way feminist abolitionist groups still promote sex industry workers as victims, helpless and unable to defend or look after our selves.

This latest campaign of hatred has gone on for 100 years some of us refer to it as the prohibition war. Since the beginning of this war human rights have come to the fore front and now the sex industry community is seeking recognition as a distinct culture deserving of protection under the charter. We hope to end the campaign to “end sex work” and have our rights to choose employment, be protected from hate propaganda against us, and to be protected from discrimination based on who we are.

International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights

Article 20
1. any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law
2. Any advocacy or national, racial, cultural or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.
Article 26
1. all persons are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to the equal protection of the law. In this respect, the law shall prohibit any discrimination and guarantee to all persons equal and effective protection against discrimination on any ground such as race, color, sex, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

International Declaration of Human Rights
Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person

Part III

Article 6
2. The states parties to the present Covenant recognize the right to work, which includes the right of everyone to the opportunity to gain his living by work which he freely chooses or accepts, and will take appropriate steps to safe guard this right.

3. The steps to be taken by a state party to the present Covenant to achieve the full realization of this right shall include technical and vocational guidance and training programs, policies and techniques to achieve stead economic, social and cultural development and full and productive employment under conditions safe guarding fundamental political and economic freedoms to the individual.
 

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Listening to CKNW last night, the topic came up about Germany and their legalisation of the sex trade during a world cup soccer event and how it stayed. They ventured to talk about setting up red light districts during the winter olympics......

Any comments

Regards

H
I'm in no position to comment on the arguments by some of the other better informed posters on the issues of Legalization, Decriminalization or RLD's, but I just wanted to say, based on the original post, that there is no way you can compare the World Cup Soccer (Football) event and the 'type' of crowd it draws with the Winter Olympics and the 'type' of crowd it draws. Apples 'n Oranges IMHO, with very differing needs / desires. As such, and with a conservative tone in North America, I don't see much chance of any change being tied to the Olympics. Just my humble opinion.
 

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I'm in no position to comment on the arguments by some of the other better informed posters on the issues of Legalization, Decriminalization or RLD's, but I just wanted to say, based on the original post, that there is no way you can compare the World Cup Soccer (Football) event and the 'type' of crowd it draws with the Winter Olympics and the 'type' of crowd it draws. Apples 'n Oranges IMHO, with very differing needs / desires. As such, and with a conservative tone in North America, I don't see much chance of any change being tied to the Olympics. Just my humble opinion.
i agree, olympic visitors are families and stuff its a family event, the olympic money is in the lead up to the games in the construction boom. and there are lots of brothels so why would we need olympic brothels? or a RLD? we already have the east end and up on kingsway?
 

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no one supports red light districts, it won't work some one will inevitably work out side of it as it's too crowded or when there's no money.

not government, not sex workers, and it's proven to harm not help.
What about go go bars ? The girls could register as an Sp like they do in Amsterdam. The bars would be the same as strip clubs except you pay for the girl to leave with you. What the customer and the Sp do after they leave is nobodys business.
 

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To be honest, Anica, I think it's the general lack of interest in strip bars by the majority of the male public that's really putting them in the grave...that and high land prices.

I don't think peeler bars have been able to draw real, regular crowds since around 2000. It used to be that they were packed every night, or had a sustainable draw...and were gong shows on the special nights (fri/sat). Since then, attendance has trickled up, bit by bit, until it's now a shadow of what it once was. If the excessive profit isn't there, then what's the point of staying open?
 

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To be honest, Anica, I think it's the general lack of interest in strip bars by the majority of the male public that's really putting them in the grave...that and high land prices.

I don't think peeler bars have been able to draw real, regular crowds since around 2000. It used to be that they were packed every night, or had a sustainable draw...and were gong shows on the special nights (fri/sat). Since then, attendance has trickled up, bit by bit, until it's now a shadow of what it once was. If the excessive profit isn't there, then what's the point of staying open?
Turn them into go gos. Nobody will notice. Like the No.5 orange. The place is just crawling with lap dancers, why not dish out some full service, hush hush
 

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No no no, this would be desasterous for me & the other Exotic Dancers- .
My opinion of course.
i agree completely other areas of the sex industry where workers could choose work within their physical boundaries are disappearing not because of lack of interest but because of the police and municipaities considering exotic dancing a reasonable casualty in their war on "org crime".

i don't know if you guys remember this but the VPD were going into the show lounges 20 at a time in uniform asking all patrons for ID and harassing dancers
it was dirty....

any way here's what i wrote the police board and go out and support your local strip club IMMEDIATELY!!LOL:p they give you 5 mins to speak as a delegation the police board, boy can i talk fast!!!

Re: Escalation in enforcement against Organized Crime-
Sept 19, 2007

To Whom It May Concern:

My name is Susan Davis and I’ve been a sex worker for 21 yeas from coast to coast and in all levels of the trade. I am a member of the BCCEC which is a consort of current and former sex workers who fight for human rights and labor standards for sex workers.

During the advocacy and media work that I do, one question consistently comes up. How did the situation become as dangerous as it is? In an effort answer this question a group of sex workers including my self set out to discover what had happened at least on a local level, to create the dangerous environment sex workers in the DTES face every day. We learned how a brief period of moral zeal known as social gospel had lead to prohibition and the beginnings of the cultural divide that the so called “underground “ and community at large live with today.

The religious overtones of this time have defined every decision made around this difficult issue and still plague sex workers ability to organize to this day.
How can we over come this barrier?

During the Living in Community Project it became clear that sex workers needed a safe place to work and communities were no longer willing to tolerate the residual mess of the industry, meaning condoms and needles, or the visible violence and sexual activity taking place around them.
We need to bring the trade in off of the street.

The history project shows us how local, provincial and federal governments have systematically removed all safe work options for sex workers.

During the 1920’s and all the way up to the 1960’s, sex workers from all aspects of the trade worked together in what were then known as “Supper Clubs”. Dancers performed complex routines and escorts were available to have diner and keep you company for the night, cigarette girls, bartenders… all working together under one roof within their own personal physical boundaries, a community.

In 1973, the Penthouse Show Lounge was charged with living off the avails of prostitution and our community was divided down the middle. This action had made all supper club owners unwilling to work with sex workers and this safe stabile work environment was lost. The street trade in Vancouver shot up that year and the first recorded murder of a sex worker took place, a direct result of this action.

The law revisions of 1985 had an equally disastrous effect increasing the mortality rate of Vancouver sex workers by 500%.

In the early 1990’s sex workers could rent hotels rooms in the DTES by the hour and have a safe place to work. The city threatened the hotel owners with criminal prosecution and the loss of their businesses making them no longer willing to do business with us either, another safe option lost.

Is it any wonder a street trade exists? The only place left to work was the isolated industrial areas of the east end or crab. 1990 was the year that workers really began to go missing at an incredible rate from the DTES.

Recently, health enhancement center raids, the closure of 17 show lounges in the lower mainland, and a training video for hotel staff to identify sex workers have once again compromised the safety of adult sex workers in Vancouver. The officers in charge of these actions have expressed that adult industry workers are seen as a reasonable casualty in their efforts to stabilize youth or de-stabilize organized crime. This is unacceptable. We are human beings and deserve the same protection and consideration as other citizens enjoy.

These actions have direct impact on the lives of industry workers. I now have exotic dancers who want to know how they can work safely as escorts. They have had to choose to violate their physical boundaries and engage in an area of the industry which makes them uncomfortable; dancers don’t want to be escorts. After the release of the training video for hotel staff on the national news I received a phone call from a young man claiming to be a hotel doorman. He wanted to send customers my way for a $30.00 cut of each call. He also wanted to come to sample the merchandise for free before sending me any calls. This just demonstrates how giving someone power over sex workers leads to them taking advantage. If we can’t trust police officers and RCMP officers to resist the temptation, how will a hotel doorman or janitor?

The recent murder of an indoor worker in Kitsalano has once again put the spot light on the safety of sex industry workers. As a community, sex industry workers are mobilizing and more politically aware. We as a community have decided that the workers in the east end are dying the fastest and there fore must be saved first. This is a hard decision when everyone’s safety and stability is at risk but none the less, this is our only option.

You may have read in the news recently about cooperatively run brothels in Victoria and Vancouver. The Vancouver collective of sex workers in the east end have been working hard and we will be officially incorporated as a Cooperative sometime in November. This cooperative will be the “umbrella” for a number os sex worker community development activities. An art collective, a coop publishing company, a coop catering company and of course the controversial cooperatively run safe work site.

It is not our intention to violate the law or put the VPD in a position where you are forced to arrest us. We will NOT open a safe work site without a special exemption or amnesty for the federal government. We have done a preliminary scan of how this might be accomplished and it seems that in fact we may be able to do it through legal channels. The site would be owned and operated by the workers who access the site. They could vote on what to do with any profits and benefit from mentoring and capacity building opportunities in all aspects of running the cooperative. The workers involved in the development of our cooperative had many suggestions for what to do with any profits from the cooperative business activities. One example which never fails to move me was the wish to create a scholarship fund for the children of dead sex workers. We will need community and police support for this initiative.

The VPD presented itself at the International Harm Reduction Conference as a Harm reduction police force but seems to have misinterpreted the fundamental principles of this approach which is to engage the community affected, not to protect the community at large from us. That is not to say that this department isn’t trying to employ different methods and reduce harm to the sex worker community. I personally have trained almost 200 new recruits and was asked to join the Diversity Advisory Committee to the Chief Constable, the first time sex workers have been acknowledged as a distinct community and culture by this department. I attended 2 DAC meetings with one of my peers and we slowly began to see the potential of the DAC for real trust building between our community and the VPD. We were asked to take part in the ride along program and were excited to agree. Unfortunately my friend’s extensive criminal history although from 15years previous had made her ineligible and she was kicked out of the police car after just 45 min.’s.

The DAC mandate asks sex workers to lend their credibility within their community to the VPD in an effort to restore trust in the department and open up communication with us but where is this department’s trust in us? Somehow we must meet half way. We then received an e-mail stating that the issues facing sex industry workers were too broad for the DAC and that it might be better to strike a working group. We were told the VPD DAC member would enquire with PIVOT legal society on how to start such a group. I politely reminded them that the city had struck a working group to the tune of $500,000 in Living in Community and that the police had been at the table. Well, at least for the first 2 ½ years. Kash Heed was supposed to replace John Mackay on the committee but apparently didn’t consider it a high priority.

The first meetings of this working group are scheduled to begin this week and thankfully we have been included right from the beginning and will have some input as to who should be involved in the committee. This will be an East End working group and we hope to include voices from all areas of the sex industry and the community itself in order to appropriately address enforcement issues facing us. We hold up great hope for this action and pray that some communication between the VPD and the sex industry will stem the harms caused by enforcement in the past.

As the VPD prepares another attack on so called organized crime we are bracing ourselves for the inevitable impact of this war on our lives. Yes, war. We now know this department considers us reasonable casualties in this war and are preparing once again for the harms that will undoubtedly follow.

The new Police Chief stated in the media after my last presentation that sex work is illegal. It scares me a little that the new Chief has such a lack of knowledge of the criminal code. Prostitution is NOT illegal. Being an Exotic Dancer is NOT illegal. Working in the Porn industry is NOT illegal. Being a bartender or bouncer in an Exotic show lounge is NOT illegal. Being a business owner and providing safe work spaces for sex industry workers is NOT illegal.

However, sexual harassment and sexual assault are illegal. The complaints we received about the Organized Crime Task Force included these things although the victim’s were not willing to come forward and pursue criminal charges, it’s not difficult to see why. It was explained to me that the VPD purposely recruit ”tough guys” for this task force because the gangsters are tough guys, fair enough. Does this justify the actions of this group of VPD thugs during their last efforts? What happened to serve and protect?

PLEASE, consider any actions you approve as a board carefully and be aware of the far reaching effects these actions will have. PLEASE, work with us. No one else needs to die or be harmed during or as a result of VPD operations.

Thank you,
Sincerely,
Susan Davis
BCCEC
(604)671-2345
 
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