Text is frequently inadequate for conveying the nuances of what is being communicated, and maybe my posting was not sufficiently precisely worded to clearly convey the full meaning of what I was saying. In essence, there are some very well-reviewed women on erslist and Perb from a number of viewpoints. Find the reviews, look at the reliability of the reviewers and use them as a stating point. Yes, there certainly is an element of YMMV, but the risk can be minimized. I've had one experience lower than my expectations, but that was probably due as much to me as to the lady concerned. However, I have also done extensive research beforehand, confirmed the arrangements and planned ahead of time. I don't want to be losing sleep over this. Yes, shit can happen, but that shouldn't be very often if you take the right precautions. Shit can happen in other hobby's as well, but the risk can usually be minimized ahead of time.