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CIM and COF Restrictions

diamondd5243

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I'm very curious about what you said here. What do you mean CIM is not right? I think you mean, some kind of immoral activity, right? Care to explain what it is about cumming in a woman's mouth that isn't "right"? Does it make a difference if she shares it with him? Does it make a difference if it's gay sex and one man cums in another man's mouth? Does it make a difference if he cums and puts it into his own mouth only? What is it about cum going into a mouth that is not "right"?

I'd really like to know. People's attitudes towards sex are interesting to me, and as you suggest, many women don't do this. Personally I've only encountered one of the many non-SP's I've known to be like this and our relationship didn't last long enough for me to get an answer. If what you imply is true about many women having the same attitude about it as you, I consider myself extremely fortunate.
I perceived her comment as in 'not right due to the health risks' rather than a moral thing... I might be wrong though?
 

Elmore

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Perhaps you should read some of the posts to the thread you started? :nod:
What she said :clap2:

I wonder what services the OP "would expect" because it doesn't matter what he expects...what matters is what she offers and what she doesn't.

Why advertise a negative??? seriously? So they shouldn't advertise that they don't offer DFK, LFK, DATY?

And I guess massage therapists who post on CL should not advertise that they don't offer sexual services. :rolleyes:
 
What she said :clap2:

I wonder what services the OP "would expect" because it doesn't matter what he expects...what matters is what she offers and what she doesn't.

Why advertise a negative??? seriously? So they shouldn't advertise that they don't offer DFK, LFK, DATY?

And I guess massage therapists who post on CL should not advertise that they don't offer sexual services. :rolleyes:
The rolling eyes tell me this is sarcastic font.

I agree. I try not to put anything "negative" in my ads, and if other ladies ask me to edit their ads I Try to take some negatives out, but I find they end up putting them back in, which tells me, they are just annoyed of being asked that question over and over.

When you call you should really be do so to CONFIRM THINGS ON HER AD/WEBSITE. Not to negotiate rates or services. Again, mho.


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I perceived her comment as in 'not right due to the health risks' rather than a moral thing... I might be wrong though?
Correct
 

normisanas

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hun, I am, not gonna argue about it with you. There are a million reasons why someone won't do it. Thank you.
no no, I wasn't asking that you do it. I wasn't preparing for an argument. I wasn't saying that your reasons were not legitimate - especially if, as I suspect, there's a moral issue here for you - and I don't argue the fabric of someone's morals if there are no victims. I was asking for the reasons themselves, those "million reasons" you have and that apparently as you say, other people's wives have. Please also explain why you think there's a health issue for a wife, as you seem to have defaulted to the health reason, because presumably a wife shouldn't be worrying about the health of his sperm if they are in a typical marriage situation. Also, if your reasons are for health, that is completely and utterly understandable and the science supports you in that in non-monogamous situations with unknown partners, there's a real health risk. But you said it wasn't "right" and in the same breath that its not right for "wives". Not healthy and not (morally) right are two very different things.

This is what you said:
CIM (presumably with swallow)...now that's just not right. Theres a reason your wife won't do it. And its the same reason I won't.
Can you please clear this up?
 
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Cami Parker

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Well played :cheer2:
Now I am not the type to ask for those services but if I feel I am gonna pop, I let the SP know it's imminently gonna happen. Some will gladly deal with it and some will divert it to their breasts etc.
 
Can you please clear this up?

norm... would you let someone come over and hork a big loogey in your mouth? would you? no. thats how I think of it in my mind. health issue. gross. sometimes it just tastes nasty...sorry, you all read the stories about what you should and should not eat to solve that "issue".

Here... I included a nice little video for you all to enjoy. I hope Hoff likes it at least...I know he appreciates a good video...;)


Blonde Girl drinks a lot of cum. A LOT!
 
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Elmore

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norm... would you let someone come over and hork a big loogey in your mouth? would you? no. thats how I think of it in my mind. health issue. gross. sometimes it just tastes nasty...sorry, you all read the stories about what you should and should not eat to solve that "issue".

Here... I included a nice little video for you all to enjoy. I hope Hoff likes it at least...I know he appreciates a good video...;)
Is pre-cum gross to you?
 

normisanas

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norm... would you let someone come over and hork a big loogey in your mouth? would you? no. thats how I think of it in my mind. health issue. gross. sometimes it just tastes nasty...sorry, you all read the stories about what you should and should not eat to solve that "issue".

Here... I included a nice little video for you all to enjoy. I hope Hoff likes it at least...I know he appreciates a good video...;)


Blonde Girl drinks a lot of cum. A LOT!
Oh is that all you mean? "Not right" = "gross".

That's curious. It's baffling that someone wouldn't subconsciously use the word "not right" to mean anything other than something to do with morality.

But as for your delightfully colourful description of likening CIM with someone horking a big loogey into your mouth, yes, if I were receptive to homosexual activity and if I were to look at it the way you do, then yes, it would be "gross" - but I don't know about it being "not right".

I suppose then you would not mind if a heterosexual man were averse to licking pussy because it can be likened to sticking your tongue into a sewer? Would it be "not right" too?

Anyhow, the connection between what grosses you out and morality is interesting. It's not easy to find someone who can be so candid about such things, even if you are correct in implying multitudes of women think the same way. I just wish I could pick your brain a bit more about that. In any case, I would never advocate anyone do what they find repulsive in bed - that's a sure fire way to kill any sexual feelings a person has.
 

addicted2lov

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Okay I will simplify it for you. Why do guys ask for services that aren't offered in an ad? That is the real question.
I'll tell you why.
There is a significant number of providers out there - mostly the younger ones and non pros - who advertise CBJ or BJ and will go straight for a BBBJ without asking them. The other thing is that CIM will be offered on the spot although the advertising clearly says no CIM or just says BJ. It happened to me twice and totally made me freak out. So I book a girl that clearly says safe in her ad then BBBJ is offered on the spot. WTF?
I guess it's totally a ymmv thing but in my opinion this shows how unreliable / unsafe a certain category of SPs are. Fresh pussy clearly comes with a price.
So, to answer your question, once a guy learns the ads are pretty loose it then starts to ask just to make sure, ok?
 

huggzy

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1. There are many services that girls might provide that aren't listed in the ad (can you really list them all?). And these services may be available to everybody, and then some services may be YMMV after meeting with the client (such as bbbj/cim). The girl, who may possibly be willing to provide a specific service, might not necessarily want to commit to offering this to everyone - but they would have to if they do list it in an ad as a service.

2. Because of the above, the guys know that just because the services aren't listed doesn't mean that the service isn't available. Therefore they will call and ask the provider if they offer a particular service if it isn't addressed in the ad. (and why not?...you would think that every provider would at least appreciate an opportunity to get his business). The guys are not averse to calling an SP for a specific service unless the SP actually lists the service as something that she does not provide as a restriction.

3. There are SP's that have realized that if they don't offer some specific very popular/in demand services, such as bbbj/cim/cof etc., that unless they don't list it as a restriction, then they are going to be fielding countless phone calls from guys asking if they do offer this service. This takes up a lot of their time and can be quite frustrating.

And for some of the more self-righteous so-called "moral" SPs it also often makes them at best quite snippety on the phone when the client asks about the availability of these services (because they are likely fielding more calls seeking this service than not), or at worst sends them off on a ranting, lecturing diatribe about the health risks/how offensive this request is etc. with the client who just politely asked about the service. In the end both SP and the potential client are angry and upset in many cases.

4. Its probably best for all parties that an SP lists certain services as a restriction if that's the case - far less aggravation for pooners and less waste of time for SPs. Even then there are some girls that still don't list their restrictions knowing this because they are happy to at least field a phone query and try to sell the client on the services that they do provide.
 

JustJason

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I love it if she loves it, and i don't care what anyone says some women are really into it. As far as the degradation goes, I don't feel that way when i'm going down and she's cumming hard, so I certainly don't think of it like that when I do it ;)

Unfortunately sometimes you see an sp who offers it, and you find out during "the moment of truth" that she isn't into it at all, was just a way to get a client, which is a huge turnoff for me. I would much rather she just doesn't offer it, as it's not a deal breaker for me.

And unless it's stated as offered or a restriction I always ask about it. I want the services offered/restrictions conversation out of the way before we even meet, that way I have no expectations that cannot or will not be met going into it, and i'm much happier overall. And hopefully she can be assured I am an informed client who is aware of her boundaries and has no interest in being pushy about things. Win win imo.

I really can sympathize with sp's who get tons of time-wasters and millions of questions from random guys everyday, and yes I contribute to that I fully admit, but i'm starting to believe that sp's who don't or won't disclose their restrictions ahead of time might also be the type i'm looking to avoid.

I am surprised that so many ladies need to state this as a restriction in their ads. It is not something that I would expect or that even interests me. Perhaps I haven't watched enough internet porn though to know what is expected of women.

For the guys out there who like it, what is the rush? Degradation? I saw it in a movie? I've never done it before?
 

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I'll tell you why.
There is a significant number of providers out there - mostly the younger ones and non pros - who advertise CBJ or BJ and will go straight for a BBBJ without asking them. The other thing is that CIM will be offered on the spot although the advertising clearly says no CIM or just says BJ. It happened to me twice and totally made me freak out. So I book a girl that clearly says safe in her ad then BBBJ is offered on the spot. WTF?
I guess it's totally a ymmv thing but in my opinion this shows how unreliable / unsafe a certain category of SPs are. Fresh pussy clearly comes with a price.
So, to answer your question, once a guy learns the ads are pretty loose it then starts to ask just to make sure, ok?
Good point. I hadn't thought of it from that perspective.
 
LOL, this is a funny thread, how about something as simple as:

#1. Services offered include A, B and C.
#2. Restricted services include X, Y and Z.

And here’s the tricky part :rolleyes:
#3. All other services are YMMV (decided on the spot because of hygene, etc...)
or
#3. Please call regarding other services (the lady can explain without posting a 3 page blog that she does Greek but will decide after seeing how big you are in person)

If you really DO NOT want calls asking about services, then list D~W on your site.
Is it really that hard?
Lets just put it this way. You can respect her boundaries, her restrictions and services listed in her ad or on her website OR you can risk offending her by asking her to bend her restrictions for you. Which would you like to try?

It's probably best to get off on the right foot and be respectful. :)
 

The age old question. Some ladies actually say to "Call for details". Other ladies, and I am, sure you can tell who they are, have carefully crafted ads breaking services down very clearly.

I have also had guys tell me that the reason they do it is because "it does not hurt to ask."
But you don’t know it’s not listed either way so you would have to ask.
So if you don’t want to be asked, list everything as a yes or no so there can be no questions.

Please refer to my post above for the answer to your comment LIJ.

It certainly CAN hurt to ask. You can risk offending her and being blacklisted.
:)
 

bcneil

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The dreaded blacklist.....

If it is not stated or implied either way, and one respectfully asks for clarification; communication being key and all......

If this is enough to get one on blacklisted, I respectfully submit that maybe being being on this lady's blacklist is not such a bad thing after all. Now, if the lady is also sharing her list with others so they also can stay away from said client, I also respectfully submit that there may be a problem with centralized blacklists.
I was thinking the same thing. If I wanted any particular service and it was a deal breaker, and asked about it. If the lady doesn't offer it, why would I care if she blacklisted me?
If she shared this with other SPs as long as she was honest I wouldn't care either. As the only SPs that would heed her warning would be those who also didn't offer the service in question.
However blacklisting anyone because he wants clarification of a vague advertisement seems extreme. Which of course reduces the usefulness of any blacklist.
Sort of like how the public service announcement section here had every prank call Angela Arouses receives. I notice these have all been deleted?
 
The dreaded blacklist.....

If it is not stated or implied either way, and one respectfully asks for clarification with communication being key and all......

If this is enough to get one on blacklisted, I respectfully submit that maybe being on this lady's blacklist is not such a bad thing after all.

Now, if the lady is also sharing her list with others so they also can stay away from said client, I also respectfully submit that there may be a problem with centralized blacklists.
If I get a text that is anything similar to this

BBBJ? CIM?COF?


I just put it right into Mr. Number, my call block app.

If a person calls and uses the word BBBJ I terminate the call immediately and put it in my blacklist. The problem with some ladies is the repeat offenders. Not necessarily the guy who calls and asks once.

edit: And I am sure we all have received explicit emails that get no response from us and their future emails go right into a filter.
 
Ok, honest question here, I`m not trying to be argumentative, but why not just politely reply that you don`t believe you are the correct fit for the client and would prefer not to see him? Would it not be the client that gets no response that keeps trying, becoming the repeat offender?
I do that too. "Thanks for calling, but I do not think we are compatible." "Sorry, I am booked up".

Some guys are nuts.

Check out this guy. Here is one major headcase.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?186228-Alan-quot-the-trainer-quot-604-619-0**0-HARASSMENT

edit: the character mentioned in the link has a long rep of harassing ladies with texts/emails and IMs.
 
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