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[maverick73]

Beg your pardon?

Ok nothing personal... and I'm not exactly the one to be criticizing somebody for posting a lot since I appear to have no life and post my fair share....

BUT.....

DO YOU ACTUALLY WORK as an SP OR DO U JUST POST ON PERB???? With all your posts in almost every thread, I don't see how you find the time to work. It's almost as if you became a paid advertiser just so you could hijack threads and promote your hidden agenda under the guise of an SP.

Has anybody on PERB actually seen Massagelady?

"Guys are all sleazy assholes that use women for as much sexual mileage they can get without commitment"... "don't give BBBJ's because you can get HIV" ..."so and so's rate should be higher than $150 so PERBERTS don't take advantage of her..." I'm sorry, but...

----------YOUR VOICE IS HURTING MY EARS-------------

 

[maverick73]

As somebody mentioned, the girls would need a board where they could talk without the watching eyes of the guys.

They exist... one of them is called BLERB. I'm sure somebody on PERB and BLERB is reading this and would be more than happy to guide you to that board so you can trash talk all of the PERB guys on there and not on here.

Now..... where were we?

 

[n2supersymmetry]

Don't listen to the guys, they just want to get a bargain

BECAUSE you are young and new to this, you should charge more!

At no point did I suggest a numerical dollar amount for her to charge. In fact, I was quite clear that it was completely up to her to decide. I only offered some suggestions how to determine that amount.
She asked a question and I did my best to answer without seeming like I was fishing for a bargain.
I don't know why you label every guy who replied to this thread as some sort of cretin trolling for freshmeat at blue light special prices

 

[honyunyun]

Thanks everyone for all your advice and answering a lot of my questions (on here and through pm). This is definately a neat site...who would have thought I could learn so much in one day!! (haha, well I HAVE been sitting here for waaaay too long) but besides that I'm enjoying a lot of the threads I have been reading. Tons of sense of humour going around too! Its great.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

*bow* at your service

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

As somebody mentioned, the girls would need a board where they could talk without the watching eyes of the guys.

And the opposite wouldn't be such a bad thing either, twinkletoes....

As for the topic, girls do both. Charge for time, and charge for extras. Do whatever you're comfortable with. The most important thing is clarity between you and the client as to your terms before the session begins.
If your really wet behind the ears, massagelady's advice to start with an agency is a good one. I could also maybe get together with you and give some pointers. You could PM me and we could set something up.

 

[necko]

I don't know about agency's, but I've been told the booking charges, can make it not worth while, working as a indie u set your own I tend to not agree with anything Massagelady says, her thoughts tend to be on emtion not facts'

 

[honyunyun]

indie? oh, someone working independantly...

 

[aznboi9]

indie? oh, someone working independantly...

You know, you should try picking the brains of some of the escorts on this site. There are a lot of indie girls that, I think, would be happy to answer any questions on setting up and discussing the advantages/disadvantages of going indie or with an agency. Girls that pop in my head would be Very Veronica, Ingrid, and Julia (sexxxygirl). They have all, to the best of my knowledge have worked on both sides of the coin and they all seem like really cool girls (or cougers, in VV's case )

 

[DDawGG]

...... because I am not in the same business.

Yet I know what's best for you.......

honyunyun, best thing for you would be to go to an escort agency.
A few good ones advertise here.
They will set a fair price for you and look out for your interests.

Once you know the ropes you can become independent.

An escort agency will give you a few good customers a day, and let you determine what do you feel comfortable with. They will make a website and get your pics, too.

Good luck!

Wouldn't she be working for less that $.5 an hour (net) at an agency?

 

[rickoshadows]

And what is your problem with giving some advice to her?
All YOU can tell her how to give you BJ so you enjoy it. SP's know what this work involves.

Not that any blowjob is a bad blowjob, but I have had more mediocre ones than great ones. Guess who gets the tips and repeat visits.

I don't have a problem with your advice, but not all of us are out to screw over a new girl (OK, yes, but figuratively speaking, no!) Many of us would like to hit it off with a new provider and establish a regular business relationship. Trying to set up an appt with an indy who already has regular cliental isn't easy, and agencies are pretty much potluck. Not all of us here are predators, and your attitude sometimes has me wondering what you really think of all of us.

 

[aznboi9]

Someone who is not GBM, Randy, or logsplitter may need to quote this

{QUOTE=massagelady}And I am wondering why is it that every time I speak up for my or other women' interests all I get is personal attacks from you guys?

If you were me, wouldn't that make you think badly of the people who do it?{?QUOTE}

It’s because you invariably take the cynical viewpoint that all of us Perbs, or rather men are bad people that can’t be trusted.

{QUOTE=massagelady} “I don't want you guys take advantage of her {/QUOTE}

How would you feel if some guy had a bad experience with an SP, through no fault of his own, then came on her posting about how all SP’s are shallow, greedy, all hate men and will do anything to screw pooners over for a buck? I would imagine that you would feel offended having been deemed guilty by association, even though you’ve done nothing wrong.

Yet, that’s precisely what you are doing here. As I’ve already stated, all posts were benign in their intentions; most were well meaning, actually. But you chose to assume the worst; that we were out to “get” this new girl, despite the fact that any reasonable person could see that no such objective existed. To be honest, your posts read as being very smug, as someone who thinks that they are better than us. That would offend anybody.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

{QUOTE=massagelady}And I am wondering why is it that every time I speak up for my or other women' interests all I get is personal attacks from you guys?

If you were me, wouldn't that make you think badly of the people who do it?{?QUOTE}

It’s because you invariably take the cynical viewpoint that all of us Perbs, or rather men are bad people that can’t be trusted.

{QUOTE=massagelady} “I don't want you guys take advantage of her {/QUOTE}

How would you feel if some guy had a bad experience with an SP, through no fault of his own, then came on her posting about how all SP’s are shallow, greedy, all hate men and will do anything to screw pooners over for a buck? I would imagine that you would feel offended having been deemed guilty by association, even though you’ve done nothing wrong.

Yet, that’s precisely what you are doing here. As I’ve already stated, all posts were benign in their intentions; most were well meaning, actually. But you chose to assume the worst; that we were out to “get” this new girl, despite the fact that any reasonable person could see that no such objective existed. To be honest, your posts read as being very smug, as someone who thinks that they are better than us. That would offend anybody.

Man, what started out as an interesting Q&A devolved into a full scale exchange again.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

Nice. You guys still wondering why do I have a bad opionion of you?

I can't see anyone getting upset about THIS crap

Why do you have to make such general inclusive remarks. Couldn't you just direct your criticisms to a specific person or persons.
I didn't do anything that is lewd or offensive to anyone yet your remarks keeps including me as part of the criticism. The "you guys this" and "you guys that" are pretty inclusive as I am a guy and like it or not, I was lumped in as part of your shotgun blast approach to criticizing.
I don't think I deserve any of your ire as I was only answering some questions and everytime you show up and start gunning I get sprayed indiscriminately by you and a thread gets nuked to hell.

 

[stryker]

$50 bucks says she has to get the last word in

 

[Randy Whorewald]

$50 bucks says she has to get the last word in

I wouldn't want to lose my $50 bucks. She always does get the last word in stryker. Because it usually ends up that she accuses someone of personally attacking / stalking / following her. I'm still trying to figure out how to post a response to any of her drivel BEFORE she posts it since if I respond after she posts it I'm accused of following her. I'm really glad I'm on her IGNORE list though. Sort of like an exclusive / select club.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Thanks everyone for all your advice and answering a lot of my questions (on here and through pm). This is definately a neat site...who would have thought I could learn so much in one day!! (haha, well I HAVE been sitting here for waaaay too long) but besides that I'm enjoying a lot of the threads I have been reading. Tons of sense of humour going around too! Its great.

honyunyun - you should pm me for practical advice on what to do. I have my PPP designation (Pussy Petting Pooner) and I can show you the ropes based on my extensive experience.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

But I didn't jump at you first ... you jumped at everyone including me.
I was quite happy doing my thing and not bothering anyone and here you come with the big bat swinging.
By the way, they are not jerks ... they didn't say anything offensive or abusive in my opinion. Goodlube might have been a little tasteless in his post but that was obviously a joke. Bad Goodlube ... how dare you ruin the good name of this board with your sarcastic attempt to be a pimp (and who said pimping was easy)
*slap* bad boy now go stand in that corner and you THINK about what you wrote!
I am ready to finish this discussion, are you?

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Sorry, but I've seen very few of you admonishing jerky behaviour around here, [/B]

I am admonishing jerkish behaviour all the time. Problem is a lot of jerks will not listen / absorb the admonishing.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

All YOU can tell her how to give you BJ so you enjoy it.
Do I need to explain more, or you guys got it?

Who would be better suited to teach her BJ's than the intended customer of her services? She wouldn't want to learn how to do BJ's from someone who only does HJ's any more than a dentist would learn dentistry from a truck driver. All businesses succeed from giving the customer what he wants not from what the business decides is best.