CBJ, can it really be part of a True GFE ?

Mr Quim

Cunnilingus Connoisseur
Jan 14, 2007
1,683
483
83
The beautiful Fraser Valley !
This Question, may have been raised before ? But, I couldn't find much, on this specific Subject by Searching ?

I've read a lot of Reviews, where OPs have listed a CBJ, as part of a GFE ?

I'm having a hard time, wrapping my Head around this Perception ? No Pun intended !

Is It just Me ? Or how, do the rest of you Gentlemen, perceive this as part of a True GFE ?

Cheers !
 

ddcanz

curmudgeon
Feb 27, 2012
2,687
20
38
right here and now
Considering that your SP is giving you a GFE (emphasis on the E, not the GF), and she wants to play safe, then a CBJ is a no-brainer.
This is all fantasy anyway.
If you want an actual, legitimate, realistic no-holds barred true GFE, then just get yourself a GF. :)
Also, maybe just pretend you have an open sore on your member- I'm sure a real GF would slap on a rubber before she gets down there.
 

take8easy

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2014
4,791
1,291
113
This Question, may have been raised before ? But, I couldn't find much, on this specific Subject by Searching ?

I've read a lot of Reviews, where OPs have listed a CBJ, as part of a GFE ?

I'm having a hard time, wrapping my Head around this Perception ? No Pun intended !

Is It just Me ? Or how, do the rest of you Gentlemen, perceive this as part of a True GFE ?

Cheers !
I have wondered about it myself. Everyone has his or her own perspective on this so personally speaking TRUE gfe for me includes BBBJ (besides DFK, LFK, DATY, DATO, to say the least). I mean if I have a gf, I would expect us both to keep things uncovered as far as oral pleasure is concerned (or even for intercourse, if both sides are ok with it). Obviously the covers has to come on in case of an SP for safety reasons.

T8E
 

hankmoody

Well-known member
Aug 12, 2014
1,007
70
48
Of course not.
That would be SGFE at best.
 

johnsmit

Active member
May 4, 2013
1,297
16
38
Here's something to consider. Guys that have a girl friend and she does not like BBBJ,daty,dfk,or dato.So that is why the guy is seeing an escort that does. Thence it would be call more the my girl friend will do or MGFDE.☺
 

badbadboy

Well-known member
Nov 2, 2006
9,543
308
83
In Lust Mostly
This Question, may have been raised before ? But, I couldn't find much, on this specific Subject by Searching ?

I've read a lot of Reviews, where OPs have listed a CBJ, as part of a GFE ?

I'm having a hard time, wrapping my Head around this Perception ? No Pun intended !

Is It just Me ? Or how, do the rest of you Gentlemen, perceive this as part of a True GFE ?

Cheers !
I like to think of the experience as a whole and not just one part of a large mix of options we have when with an SP. Admittedly, my first choice is BBBJ and I'd guess i've received that about 95% of the time. Having said that, there are some SP who bring a whole lot more to the date than to be concerned about receiving a CBJ.
 

DiscreetOG

New member
May 7, 2009
99
0
0
I agree with you 100% Lance alot. I think you're right on when you say GFE "implies a much more intimate experience." To me this intimate experience includes BBBJ, not CBJ.
I agree that as long as the SP is upfront about what she's offering, CBJ or BBBJ, we as clients won't be disappointed and have any incorrect expectations.
I tend to be more of a "repeat customer" type of client. More of a quality over quantity type of guy. I think as clients we all are looking for something different out of a session. When I find an SP that is fun, has a sense of humor and I like to be with, CBJ/BBBJ aside, I tend stick with them. I have found that the "intimate experience" sometimes takes a number of sessions with the same SP to evolve.
 

johnA27

Member
Nov 2, 2015
320
4
18
It never amazes me how much this board is obsessed with bbbj, or anywhere really. Does it feel good? Yes. But does it BREAK a session if she wants to put a cover on like you guys imply? No.

GFE to me means a much more sensual session, focus on cuddling, touching, hugging, kissing, sweet talking, where as a PSE would mean harder humping, dirty talk, etc. The specific act has nothing to do with it, well maybe Greek is more of a PSE thing but still.

To say that a girl is not GFE is she doesnt do bbbj is just bullshit though.
 

BaconNeggs

New member
Jan 13, 2017
266
4
0
BC Canada
Look, we're just playing semantics here.

Nothing wrong with CBJ is that's what an SP prefers to provide (and I've heard a few guys actually do prefer it....for safety, sensitivity.... or whatever reason).

But you can't call it GFE.

That term was invented to differentiate from "regular" service and implies a much more intimate experience. In my opinion, CBJ doesn't fit that branding.

So, an SP can choose to try and pass off CBJ service as "GFE" , but, UNLESS she's clear about it upfront, my guess is she'll run the risk of disappointing/misleading clients in the process - thereby damaging her own brand.

Far better to be clear and upfront - not confuse the two - so that what people buy matches their expectations.
Well said!

I personally wouldn't have a girl friend in my life that didn't deep french kiss me, or bbbj me with CIM.
So i long ago came to accept it as false advertising if they claim GFE but don't offer those services.
But hey, maybe some guy somewhere would allow a girl friend to not do those things.

In a perfect world all Service Providers would advertise in a simple and clear way.
The customers ( us pooners ) could expect all services unless they specifically advertised something as a restriction.
That would make it so much clearer and si.pler for everyone.
But the odds of the industry every accepting such a policy are basically zero. It is too logical and well conceived to become adopted as the rule of the industry.
I've found that many in this industry like chaos and games, not concise and clear rules. Maybe the top 10% of providers would like to have such a good policy in place. But the other 90% would never follow these rules. Heck many are so dishonest they use fake photos, lie about their age, and many more deceitful practices.
Again for the true professional providers like many on this review board, these comments are not directed at you. But more at the backpages scammer types, of which there are far too many of.
 
Last edited:

morementum

Member
Aug 22, 2012
787
13
18
This Question, may have been raised before ? But, I couldn't find much, on this specific Subject by Searching ?

I've read a lot of Reviews, where OPs have listed a CBJ, as part of a GFE ?

I'm having a hard time, wrapping my Head around this Perception ? No Pun intended !

Is It just Me ? Or how, do the rest of you Gentlemen, perceive this as part of a True GFE ?

Cheers !
Of course it can. I have had GFs that do BB and CB and it is up to a number of factors. GFE is a broadly defined as "good food" which will vary for everyone. In reality, if you want to get picky, GFE should include hassling you about your hockey equipment in the laundry room, beer in the fridge where the milk should be and eating all the good yoghurt she wanted for lunch when you get home late.
 

sevenofnine

Active member
Nov 21, 2008
2,015
9
38
everyone has a different definition of what gfe is or pse is,
it varies from girl to girl and even guy to guy.


I think there is some honest confusion on this,
as well as some marketing involved.

I remember some huge fight with a guy and a girl,
the guy insisted the gfe means bbbj.
yeah good luck with that,

obviously he has never been married or in a relationship.
things mean what ever they want to a women, and it even changes from time to time, just so you don't figure it out. and you don't forget who is the boss.

you got to keep the women happy,
happy wife happy life.
happy hooker good sex.
 

mrman848

New member
Feb 13, 2017
64
0
0
Bbbj feels better than actual sex. For me anyway.
Of course it takes me like 10+ min to orgasm at full speed so i really do need that extra feeling.

I always ask for it. And if they dont offer I dont book. Doesn't bother me either, its supply and demand.

I've only had 2 girlfriends and they did absolutely everything in bed and the both looked like models. So my gfe expectations are quite high.
From what I hear i dont think I'd ever want "the wife experience".
 

MonaBardot

Curvaceous Companion
Oct 2, 2015
135
0
16
So here's something I've always wondered about this age old debate... at what point in the 'GFE' does one suspend one's disbelief? Like I presume you're not leaving an envelope on your girlfriend's dresser either, or carefully watching the time so you can hop into the shower after an hour or whatever? There are lots of other things that we do with partners, which are inappropriate in the transactional context. And vice versa.

So the logic of saying "well my GF would do X, so I expect it from an escort," sort of seems... flimsy?

I agree though, that we need better defined terms. I think what we need for a culture of honest advertising of services to flourish is a decriminalized environment :)
 

CrazedandAbused

Active member
Aug 4, 2015
142
34
28
Austin, Texas
It never amazes me how much this board is obsessed with bbbj, or anywhere really. Does it feel good? Yes. But does it BREAK a session if she wants to put a cover on like you guys imply? No.

GFE to me means a much more sensual session, focus on cuddling, touching, hugging, kissing, sweet talking, where as a PSE would mean harder humping, dirty talk, etc. The specific act has nothing to do with it, well maybe Greek is more of a PSE thing but still.

To say that a girl is not GFE is she doesnt do bbbj is just bullshit though.
Does it break a GFE session if she wants to put a cover on ? Hell Yeah!!

GFE implies BBBJ. That's why ladies charge more. It's also a ploy to attract more clients because of it.

If she doesn't like to do it, that's her business, but then don't advertise as GFE or say so upfront.

What's bullshit is pulling a bait and switch. I've walked out - mid blow job - because some lying SP billed herself as GFE, stated the only thing covered was BBFS, and then tried to put on a condom with her mouth hoping I wouldn't notice. ( and gave her a bad review in the process )

Just be upfront about it. If some idiot wants to pay more for CBJ, that's his problem. I think the vast majority of us expect GFE means BBBJ.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MikeHasABigSpike

johnA27

Member
Nov 2, 2015
320
4
18
Does it break a GFE session if she wants to put a cover on ? Hell Yeah!!

GFE implies BBBJ. That's why ladies charge more. It's also a ploy to attract more clients because of it.

If she doesn't like to do it, that's her business, but then don't advertise as GFE or say so upfront.

What's bullshit is pulling a bait and switch. I've walked out - mid blow job - because some lying SP billed herself as GFE, stated the only thing covered was BBFS, and then tried to put on a condom with her mouth hoping I wouldn't notice. ( and gave her a bad review in the process )

Just be upfront about it. If some idiot wants to pay more for CBJ, that's his problem. I think the vast majority of us expect GFE means BBBJ.
LOL get the fuck over yourself.

Take it or leave it, I am done here.
 

Mr Quim

Cunnilingus Connoisseur
Jan 14, 2007
1,683
483
83
The beautiful Fraser Valley !
LOL get the fuck over yourself.

Take it or leave it, I am done here.
I was just looking for some Feed-Back ?

I would never have thought, this Subject would inspire so much Passion ?

Wow, that's some Passion !

I was just curious, about Everyone's, 2 Cents worth ?

I just hope, We can all Respect, each other's personal Opinions ?

Some great Comments, so far !

Cheers
 
Last edited:

lenny

girls just wanna have fu
May 20, 2004
4,088
76
48
your GF's panties
I prefer the Dominant Girlfriend Experience ;)

Btw.. sometimes there's good reasons why a promised bbbj ends up being a cbj.. or why digits & dfk are denied. It's not always because the lady is intentionally scamming ...remember, in reviews, we only hear one side of the story..
DGE is fine if it involves no pain & it's the GF taking the initiative to make the man feel good. Otherwise BGE is my pref.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?125906-What-is-Safe-GFE
 

ddcanz

curmudgeon
Feb 27, 2012
2,687
20
38
right here and now
Does it break a GFE session if she wants to put a cover on ? Hell Yeah!!

GFE implies BBBJ. That's why ladies charge more. It's also a ploy to attract more clients because of it.

If she doesn't like to do it, that's her business, but then don't advertise as GFE or say so upfront.

What's bullshit is pulling a bait and switch. I've walked out - mid blow job - because some lying SP billed herself as GFE, stated the only thing covered was BBFS, and then tried to put on a condom with her mouth hoping I wouldn't notice. ( and gave her a bad review in the process )

Just be upfront about it. If some idiot wants to pay more for CBJ, that's his problem. I think the vast majority of us expect GFE means BBBJ.
If the vast majority expects GFE to automatically include BBBJ then the vast majority is delusional, IMO.
GFE would typically emphasize the Experience- a more intimate session with someone NOT your SO, rather than just a fuck-fest. And kissing is intimate- hence the upcharge. If all kissing was excluded then I would be unimpressed.
But look at it this way- most would probably say that they have bareback sex with their wives and girlfriends- does BBFS then too need to be included to be true GFE? Of course fucking not. So why should head-giving automatically be uncovered?
If it's that important to get BBBJs- which is also my preference, btw- then confirm it is included up front. Then walk if it's not- like you did.
But to assume BBBJ goes with the GFE territory and only idiots will pay more for the service when CBJ is offered is a bit fucking arrogant.
 

Elmore

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2011
2,517
1,178
113
North Shore
People really walk (after paying) because they were lied to...or whatever other reason BBBJ is not available?

Wow...you guys are hardcore.
 
Ashley Madison
Vancouver Escorts