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Game 2 is in the books and what a great game it was! I'm loving the end to end hockey, the hits (Even from the Sedins!), the intensity! Everyone is stepping it up, let's hope it lasts through St. Louis!!!!
 

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Well Andy Murray denies it but I think this is about the best the Blues have got to give. And it's not enough....

Maybe I need to retract my earlier comments suggesting we don't necessary need a Luongo only 90% of him and instead say we NEED Luongo. If it was a goalie 90% the caliber of Luongo, maybe it would have been 1-0 Blues 24 seconds in and a complete different game.
 

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Canucks in 5! we're going to lose a road game and come back finish it at home.
 

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Well Andy Murray denies it but I think this is about the best the Blues have got to give. And it's not enough....

Maybe I need to retract my earlier comments suggesting we don't necessary need a Luongo only 90% of him and instead say we NEED Luongo. If it was a goalie 90% the caliber of Luongo, maybe it would have been 1-0 Blues 24 seconds in and a complete different game.
indeed...

without Luongo the Canucks are nothing more than the Phoenix Coyotes...

Blues haven't caught a break in this series yet...

if they can win the next two at home...
 

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indeed...

without Luongo the Canucks are nothing more than the Phoenix Coyotes...

Blues haven't caught a break in this series yet...

if they can win the next two at home...
hahaha, that is the stupidest hockey comment I have ever read. If you like them or not, on paper the Canucks are a reputable playoff hockey team. Thats what unbiased pundits have concluded.
 

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hahaha, that is the stupidest hockey comment I have ever read. If you like them or not, on paper the Canucks are a reputable playoff hockey team. Thats what unbiased pundits have concluded.
No doubt. That's got to be the most bizarre type of fan, the one that cheers for the other team.
 

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hahaha, that is the stupidest hockey comment I have ever read. If you like them or not, on paper the Canucks are a reputable playoff hockey team. Thats what unbiased pundits have concluded.
not without Luongo...

for them to have a chance he has to stand on his head...

BTW, what is a reputable playoff team as say opposed to a non-reputable playoff team...

also, congratulations on the new job HotAC...
 

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not without Luongo...
That is such a weak and desperate comment.

No shit the team would be worse without Luongo...
Guess what? They have Luongo. So your point doesn't mean anything.

Where would Washington be without Ovechkin? Where would Boston be without Chara? we could go on and on... but the point is irrelevant.

Fortunately the management of these teams have had the fore-thought to acquire these players and surround them with complimentary pieces. That's the way the world of pro sports works.
 

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That is such a weak and desperate comment.

No shit the team would be worse without Luongo...
Guess what? They have Luongo. So your point doesn't mean anything.

Where would Washington be without Ovechkin? Where would Boston be without Chara? we could go on and on... but the point is irrelevant.

Fortunately the management of these teams have had the fore-thought to acquire these players and surround them with complimentary pieces. That's the way the world of pro sports works.
yes, all teams would be worse without their best players...

but are you saying all team's best players impact their team equally...

goaltending influences the outcome of a game more than any other position...

just like a quarterback or pitcher...

would you rather have the best quarterback in the NFL or the best offensive guard or cornerback...

not a weak argument at all...

with regards to Ovechkin...

the Capitals are down 2 - 0 with Ovechkin, and probably would be down 2 - 0 without Ovechkin...

can't say the same about the Canucks without Luongo in this series against the Blues...

all I am saying is the Canucks are the Phoenix Coyotes with a great goaltender...

a one trick pony...

God you Canuck fans, be happy, your team is winning...

don't get so defensive...
 
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yes, all teams would be worse without their best players...

but are you saying all team's best players impact their team equally...

goaltending influences the outcome of a game more than any other position...
Again... NO SHIT!

Seems to me that means the acquisition of Luongo was a smart move. But you have to try and turn it into a negative remark about the team as a whole.
Welcome to the salary cap era, where teams can only have 1 or 2 big money players. The teams that use their dough to sign a great goalie, are obviously doing something right, according to your rationale.

I assume you think that the 03 Devils, 96 Avs and 93 Habs should return their Cup rings, because they had good goalies too?

Regardless of what YOU think, it is a weak argument. All that matters in the end is what colour jersey the team holding the cup at the end is wearing.
 

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I assume you think that the 03 Devils, 96 Avs and 93 Habs should return their Cup rings, because they had good goalies too?

All that matters in the end is what colour jersey the team holding the cup at the end is wearing.
Inamorato, your point is well taken. But, with all due respect, the 1996 Avalanche and 1993 Canadiens had some of best offense in the leauge, the 2003 Devils by far the best defense. They didn't win on goaltending alone; no team does - goaltending is the deciding factor when teams are equally matched upfront.

That said, Canucks are looking like a better playoff team than the 2007 crew.
 

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Inamorato, your point is well taken. But, with all due respect, the 1996 Avalanche and 1993 Canadiens had some of best offense in the leauge, the 2003 Devils by far the best defense. They didn't win on goaltending alone; no team does - goaltending is the deciding factor when teams are equally matched upfront.
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If you read between the lines, that was my point.

Hunsperger says Luongo is all the Canucks have going for them. And while he is obviously the key component to their success, they have a good mix in front of him. They have balanced scoring, a solid Defense group, lots of grit, and good team chemistry. Maybe not as dynamic as the Devils D, or the Habs offense, but a good overall mix of complimentary pieces.

Hockey is the ultimate team sport, and no 1 player will ever win a cup by himself.
 

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Hockey is the ultimate team sport, and no 1 player will ever win a cup by himself.
why is hockey any more of a team sport than say football, soccer, basketball, rugby and lacrosse...

what a parochial comment...

thanks Sono...
 
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why is hockey any more of a team sport than say football, soccer, basketball, rugby and lacrosse...
2 things. Tempo of the game, and physical intimidation.

I love the other sports you mentioned, and have played all of them but Lacrosse. Teamwork and chemistry are far more important in Hockey than the others.

No other sport moves as fast as hockey, the majority of plays develop on the fly. Players have to be able to anticipate their teammates next move, and communicate clearly. Soccer plays develop much more slowly and methodically, basketball is full of time-outs to talk strategy. Football has a huddle every 10-20 seconds to discuss what they will do next. Rugby and Lacrosse are comparable to hockey, but the players aren't skating around at 50km/h.

And if a hockey team is intimidated or pushed around by their opponents they are doomed. Players need to be willing to take a punch, and jump in to back up their teammates. Also, they have to be confident that their teammates are watching their back. No other sport is as liberal as far as fighting and smack talking.
 

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At the risk of hearing huns' tired old bjhunter type rant, Luongo also has the Sedins up front, who were both right up there in points during the regular season and are doing awesome so far in the post season. Offense and defense are both doing well for the team.
 

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not without Luongo...

for them to have a chance he has to stand on his head...

BTW, what is a reputable playoff team as say opposed to a non-reputable playoff team...

also, congratulations on the new job HotAC...
bullshit, Willie Mitchell was leading the league in +/- for a while playing against top lines. Ohlund is a veteran, Edler is a gem.
 

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Edler's play is a bit worrisome, he's been pretty lucky but he's trying too hard for the big hit (and leaving the puck), barely holding the line if at all... Vigneault should recognize that and settle him down a bit, tone down his minutes a bit maybe.

Speaking about goalies, can anyone have imagined Osgood stepping up like he has so far?

Nazzy looks good and contributing, good for him, happy for him.

Great first round series all around!

I have a feeling the Canucks will drop tomorrows game... they tend to be sluggish after flying in somewhere... though if there are to drop a game, I think it's better to drop game 4 :)
 
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