You are basically describing human behavior from all over the planet .... Africans, Asians, Europeans, First Nations ... again are you viewing the world through Islamaphobic lenses
Canadian ISIS brides
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....and you are viewing the world through entitled Metro Vancouver ,Recycled Rose coloured glasses...I would assume you've never had to deal with barbaric tribal behaviour ,being from your environmentally friendly townhouse.
Humans have both good and evil within themselves, as do the mass populations within these countries.
They are more tribal in politics than you can imagine, and have feuds going back generations....their hate is rooted in their upbringing ...they don't know why they hate , other than everyone they associate with does the same.
I don't hate Muslims, I in fact don't hate anyone...I buried my axe long ago, yet if you fire at me in anger, it doesn't matter who you are, what you believe, or why you've targeted me....you'll find out why I don't believe in warnings.
I made many Muslim friends when in service...there are amazing people there, but if I told you what I'd witnessed , you probably wouldn't believe half the stories I'd have to tell.
Having said all that...It is my opinion, there is nothing more savage than a human being, that thinks he has the upper hand.
no, they should face the law, whatever that may be, where they committed the crime
first we should pass laws like others have to strip them of citizenship, natural or not
disown them, move on and put our resources to those that actually need our help, here in Canada
lol, the LIBERAL spin
they said the Canadian's that the LIBERALS sent to interview him, violated his rights
they didn't need to compensate him, Trudeau wanted to
just like he wanted to with the other 3 he gave 10 million to
we didn't torture him or detain him, get over it
the LIBERALS VIOLATED HIS SUPPOSED RIGHTS, NOT HARPER, A FACT
which you can't seem to understand, it happened while CHRETIEN/MARTIN, were in power
the only thing HARPER did was not take him back right away
nothing illegal about that
and if you think Turkey is still secular, lol
there's not much hope for you
Gaza isn't a county, right, didn't actually mean that, but they are an area, when left to their own devices, full of muslims
elected a terrorist organization to govern themselves
much like Eygpt, Turkey's getting there
not fringe, the norm, like basically all muslim nations
or why did we take in that pretty Saudi girl? Bibi's kids? soon Bibi?
Mecca/Medina, no one who isn't a muslim isn't allowed in
so peaceful
standing up and denouncing Islam=death
so peaceful
disparaging the Prophet=death
or did you forget about Rushdie already? lol
oh, yeah, reality, facts, such a bitch
and yes, the Nazi threat
roll it out
it's far smaller than the actual Islamist faction in the world
of which there is a significant amount in Canada
or have you never seen all those Hijab/Niqab wearing women?
there is even the odd burka
or do you think that's a fashion statement?
even moderate muslim women don't believe that, read the one who writes for the sun
those garments represents the movement
it's the equivalent of the new swastika, brown shirt, SS
the Hitler youth, all the scarf wearing little girls, no difference
or do you really believe that all the little girls in our country now really understand/were born wanting to cover their heads with a scarf?
they're being forced into a belief system, an ISLAMIST system
like it or not, that's what that symbolizes
there is no requirement in ISLAM to wear a head covering
or do you not believe all those in those in the minority of actual moderate muslims?
we also didn't try and bring them back before they were dealt with in those countries
ah yes, the Nazi card, again, lol
then how do you explain the Muslim Canadians who are also calling to leave them there, not to mention the Asian Canadians, Native Canadians, Black Canadians, Brown Canadians?
or do you actually think it's only whitey?
who doesn't want terrorists in our midst?
look at Britian/France/other countries in Europe, they've already enacted laws stripping citizens of their rights
the US, who mouthed off about taking them back, just refused to take one of their "supposed" own back
it's already being done, in places who share our same beliefs/rule of law/values
bullets are cheap, digging a hole is cheaper
after all do unto others as they did
there are people to stand up for in the world, these aren't them
neither were the Nazis
there is no difference between them
they don't deserve anyone's sympathy/help
Interesting headline in a British paper -
Last jihadi fighters and brides carrying knockoff designer bags leave final ISIS camp
Last jihadi fighters and brides carrying knockoff designer bags leave final ISIS camp
Actually, I live in a house, not a townhouse, and as white, hetrosexual, cis gendered male Canadians we share the same degree of entitlement.
And I am sorry but you also don't solely own the expertise on Muslims, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, war or human cruelty. I have multiple close friends that have served or are serving in the Canadian and US militaries, or are working in the media or with NGOs, that have spent time in conflict zones in combat situations including Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Algeria, Somalia, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan. I have also had family members that experienced war zones as both miltary and civilians in Germany and the Pacific. They don't necessarily share the views you express in the uniqueness of human cruelty and maybe you wouldn't believe some of their stories.
You are expressing your opinion and I am expressing mine. The major difference being mine doesn't rely on defining people by ethnicity or religion or try and subjectively differentiate between degrees of barbarianism.
Sorry, I am not sure if you are impared or what, but I truly can't understand your stream of consciousness post, at times you seem to be talking to yourself?no, they should face the law, whatever that may be, where they committed the crime
first we should pass laws like others have to strip them of citizenship, natural or not
disown them, move on and put our resources to those that actually need our help, here in Canada
lol, the LIBERAL spin
they said the Canadian's that the LIBERALS sent to interview him, violated his rights
they didn't need to compensate him, Trudeau wanted to
just like he wanted to with the other 3 he gave 10 million to
we didn't torture him or detain him, get over it
the LIBERALS VIOLATED HIS SUPPOSED RIGHTS, NOT HARPER, A FACT
which you can't seem to understand, it happened while CHRETIEN/MARTIN, were in power
the only thing HARPER did was not take him back right away
nothing illegal about that
and if you think Turkey is still secular, lol
there's not much hope for you
Gaza isn't a county, right, didn't actually mean that, but they are an area, when left to their own devices, full of muslims
elected a terrorist organization to govern themselves
much like Eygpt, Turkey's getting there
not fringe, the norm, like basically all muslim nations
or why did we take in that pretty Saudi girl? Bibi's kids? soon Bibi?
Mecca/Medina, no one who isn't a muslim isn't allowed in
so peaceful
standing up and denouncing Islam=death
so peaceful
disparaging the Prophet=death
or did you forget about Rushdie already? lol
oh, yeah, reality, facts, such a bitch
and yes, the Nazi threat
roll it out
it's far smaller than the actual Islamist faction in the world
of which there is a significant amount in Canada
or have you never seen all those Hijab/Niqab wearing women?
there is even the odd burka
or do you think that's a fashion statement?
even moderate muslim women don't believe that, read the one who writes for the sun
those garments represents the movement
it's the equivalent of the new swastika, brown shirt, SS
the Hitler youth, all the scarf wearing little girls, no difference
or do you really believe that all the little girls in our country now really understand/were born wanting to cover their heads with a scarf?
they're being forced into a belief system, an ISLAMIST system
like it or not, that's what that symbolizes
there is no requirement in ISLAM to wear a head covering
or do you not believe all those in those in the minority of actual moderate muslims?
we also didn't try and bring them back before they were dealt with in those countries
ah yes, the Nazi card, again, lol
then how do you explain the Muslim Canadians who are also calling to leave them there, not to mention the Asian Canadians, Native Canadians, Black Canadians, Brown Canadians?
or do you actually think it's only whitey?
who doesn't want terrorists in our midst?
look at Britian/France/other countries in Europe, they've already enacted laws stripping citizens of their rights
the US, who mouthed off about taking them back, just refused to take one of their "supposed" own back
it's already being done, in places who share our same beliefs/rule of law/values
bullets are cheap, digging a hole is cheaper
after all do unto others as they did
there are people to stand up for in the world, these aren't them
neither were the Nazis
there is no difference between them
they don't deserve anyone's sympathy/help
A couple things I did understand - you suggest I am a Liberal. I can assure you I have voted in every election I have been elgible for and I have never cast a vote supporting a Liberal candidate.
Turkey is secular.
And yes, Chretien, Martin and Harper's governments were all responsible for Omar's illegal detention and subsequent torture.
You are more than entitled to your opinion .... For the record ,I define individuals by their actions.
For your knowledge, most laws in muslin countries do not recognize patents (which western law recognizes). Which probably explains why Americans like invading them; to put their own laws into effect, in order to keep on getting richer. Maybe some of its about oil, but the its more "they don't think like us, we will make them listen and follow our ways".... after all not too many muslins are filing for patents in the middle east......
So a knockoff hand bag is really the norm. And cheaper. And why not. You could make one your self..... (something the global economy is against)
To revoke an Canadian citizenship it should take over 90% majority in the House of Parliament; mainly cause once that (ripping citizenship from people) starts, where will it end? You go to jail, you lose your citizenship, you got a speeding ticket, you jaywalked. Criteria, not just some civil servant, who does it at the PM's/Privy council pleasure. Even murders and child molesters still retain their Canadian citizenship even after going to jail and serving their time.
The Canadian Charter of Rights is there to protect everyone, even the militant fanatics from the rule of the mob. And yes we are being the mob and convicting the ISIS brides in a court of opinion not law.
The problem lies with how these Canadian ISIS persons were raised here in Canada. Were they treated right by all, like all of these young impressionable people, was it a way out from being/living in Canada from a certain lifestyle?? from being ridiculed, teased, bullied etc, did they feel safe here in Canada, what about their life here that made them want to go over there?
Here in Canada we suffer from extremes from other cultures, from the honour killing of wifes/daughters to joining ISIS. Its about fitting into the Canadian lifesytle/culture or not fitting into the lifestyle/culture of Canada. As a child, and white guy growing up in Canada, I did not have to worry about racism in Canada(I think is was being poor/rich, not affording certain things when I was younger etc). Now I can see kids of minority growing up here, that are affected by racism (blatent and reverse), by the amount of information they are getting, pulled in different directions, being confused; all in a short time frame, whereas I have had decades to assimilate/taste different opinions and attitudes and ways to do things.....
If I stood up today and said "no more money to the Indigenous People of Canada"; would I be branded a "racist". Most likely I would be called just that.... Because now it is politically unwise to criticize Indigenous Peoples....
I have to re-evaluate words such as; freedom, forgiveness, mercy, and love
I must reject words such as: hate, destroy, kill, and revenge
So a knockoff hand bag is really the norm. And cheaper. And why not. You could make one your self..... (something the global economy is against)
To revoke an Canadian citizenship it should take over 90% majority in the House of Parliament; mainly cause once that (ripping citizenship from people) starts, where will it end? You go to jail, you lose your citizenship, you got a speeding ticket, you jaywalked. Criteria, not just some civil servant, who does it at the PM's/Privy council pleasure. Even murders and child molesters still retain their Canadian citizenship even after going to jail and serving their time.
The Canadian Charter of Rights is there to protect everyone, even the militant fanatics from the rule of the mob. And yes we are being the mob and convicting the ISIS brides in a court of opinion not law.
The problem lies with how these Canadian ISIS persons were raised here in Canada. Were they treated right by all, like all of these young impressionable people, was it a way out from being/living in Canada from a certain lifestyle?? from being ridiculed, teased, bullied etc, did they feel safe here in Canada, what about their life here that made them want to go over there?
Here in Canada we suffer from extremes from other cultures, from the honour killing of wifes/daughters to joining ISIS. Its about fitting into the Canadian lifesytle/culture or not fitting into the lifestyle/culture of Canada. As a child, and white guy growing up in Canada, I did not have to worry about racism in Canada(I think is was being poor/rich, not affording certain things when I was younger etc). Now I can see kids of minority growing up here, that are affected by racism (blatent and reverse), by the amount of information they are getting, pulled in different directions, being confused; all in a short time frame, whereas I have had decades to assimilate/taste different opinions and attitudes and ways to do things.....
If I stood up today and said "no more money to the Indigenous People of Canada"; would I be branded a "racist". Most likely I would be called just that.... Because now it is politically unwise to criticize Indigenous Peoples....
I have to re-evaluate words such as; freedom, forgiveness, mercy, and love
I must reject words such as: hate, destroy, kill, and revenge
They made their beds, they can sleep in them....sorry, not sorry!
If we get involved it will simply open the floodgates.
Our system is burdened enough as it is with refuges, putting them up in housing etc, while our vets and homeless suffer on the street because “they’re asking for too much!”, and not to mention signing multi-million dollar cheques to terrorists!
I’m all for anyone that wants to sponsor them on their own dime, but not my hard earned tax dollars!
If we get involved it will simply open the floodgates.
Our system is burdened enough as it is with refuges, putting them up in housing etc, while our vets and homeless suffer on the street because “they’re asking for too much!”, and not to mention signing multi-million dollar cheques to terrorists!
I’m all for anyone that wants to sponsor them on their own dime, but not my hard earned tax dollars!
Yeah....id like to know what the hell happened to sponsoring refugees?
When my family immigrated there was no social programs and tax dollars to help....they were on their own, and just happy they weren't getting shot at.
Alternative news source says that U.S. administration asked its Western allies to send jihadists, including those in prison, to fight the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad. Now that Isis in Syria is largely defeated and Assad regime will likely stay in power, U.S. administration has asked Western allies to take back the surviving 800 jihadists, about 70 from North America. If any Western allies refuse to take back jihadists, the U.S. administration will release the jihadists into unspecified countries.
Its just crazy anyone thinks its a good idea for these women to return to Canada' there are around 24 of them so far and their thinking is extremist, they should stay where they are.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-february-15-2019-1.5019984/canadian-women-who-went-to-join-isis-not-willing-to-express-regret-reporter-1.5019999
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-february-15-2019-1.5019984/canadian-women-who-went-to-join-isis-not-willing-to-express-regret-reporter-1.5019999
